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  • PeteE
    North Wales, UK
    Posts: 21
    #206376

    Just a quick post to say “Hi” to the forum and introduce myself as a deer stalker from the UK.

    I had a look around here over the weekend, and liked the friendly atmosphere of the site.

    As a way of introduction, I’ve been stalking for nearly 20 years, and shooting for a good bit longer prior to that.

    My primary rifles for deer are a Howa in .308win and an older Sako I’ve only recently had rebarreled to a .260Rem.

    For such a small and densely populated country, stalking opportunities in the UK are actually quite good. We have six species of deer in the wild, plus small but expanding populations of Wild Boar and Feral goats.

    The main down side is that we don’t have any free stalking on public land…To make up for that, our seasons are long, and its possible to stalk deer all year around, plus there are no tags or bag limits mandated by Government; in fact our deer populations are generally expanding and outside of the cities and larger towns, most of the UK is within 45minutes of some sort of stalking.

    I live in North Wales, where the deer are actually still quite scarce, so tend to travel for my stalking opportunities.

    Our small Roe and Muntjac deer are my main quarry, but over the years I have taken a fair number of Fallow, Red and a few Sika..The only species I’ve yet to stalk is Chinese Water Deer because their home range is still quite limited and unless you know a friendly farmer, stalking them commercially with what you guys would term a guide gets very expensive very fast..

    I am not really a trophy hunter and spend an equal amount of time hunting does/hinds as the bucks /stags

    Below are a few pics that may be of interest:

    The first couple are from different parts of Scotland and show typical Sitka Spruce/Commercial forestry stalking blocks.

    And a couple from England and Wales

    A few of our deer…

    These are a couple of Red staggie’s, that decided to browse under my highseat (ladder stand)..

    A mature Roe doe shown with my Sako for scale:

    Another Roe doe, this time pausing in my shed on the way to my freezer!!

    And a yearling Muntjac buck, this time with my Howa for scale.

    The Club I belong to is set a cull figure from the Forestry Company we lease the land from, and our main aim is to control the expanding deer population as humanly and ethically as possible, with “sport” really a secondary consideration.

    Its actually quite a task as Muntjac doe’s will drop a fawn every every 8 months and in some respects are more akin to rabbits than deer!

    Hope those give a bit of an insight to stalking in the UK and dispel a few myths many Americans seem to have about us Brits and hunting!!

    Regards,

    Peter

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #76414

    This is awesome Pete, welcome!!

    mpearson
    Chippewa Falls, WI
    Posts: 4338
    #76419

    Welcome to the site Pete. Very cool pictures and some beautiful country too….thank you for sharing!

    ragerunner
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 699
    #76421

    Pete, welcome to the site and thanks for the information. I think the pictures are great…keep them coming.

    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #76424

    WOW! One of the best introduction posts that we’ve ever had here on iDoHunting!

    Awesome pictures Peter – Very pretty terrain!

    Is the sika and the muntjac deer immigrants from Asia?

    How big do your Red Stags get? Truly one of the most incredible sounds in the wilderness – the “roar”!

    Thank you for showing us your part of the world and the type of hunting that you do.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #76426

    Welcome to the site! Great post. Keep em coming!

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #76432

    Very, very cool. I’m like Brad in that I’ve got more questions than anything. Really looking forward to learning more about your type of hunting, quarry, and terrain out there.

    Thanks for posting!

    Any wild turkey?

    Joel

    PeteE
    North Wales, UK
    Posts: 21
    #76433

    Again, thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.

    Brad, a bit like your Whitetail, our Reds vary in size depending on which part of the country they are from, the weather, and the available food.

    Generally speaking, the Reds on the open hill in Scotland are the smallest. A Stag will often dress out (gralloched, head and lower legs off, but skin on)to between 150lb to 200lb…

    In other parts of the UK, they get considerably bigger. I was on the Isle of Arran stalking about 4 years ago, and somebody shot a stag that dressed out to 380lb! Although I have read of slightly larger in the UK, they do getbigger again in parts of main land Europe. At the end of the day, they are cousins of your Elk, although on average, the Elk will be a much larger animal…

    I’ve never taken a 12 point stag although I’ve been close a couple of times. I have taken a a few 10 pointers and a fair few staggies over the years, like the one below,

    I am sure one of these days my luck will turn and I’ll get my “Royal”!

    With regards our Sika and Muntjac deer, they were introduced into the UK in the mid to late 1800’s, but its only post WW2 their populations have really taken off. Chinese Water Deer are another non-native species that was introduced at about the same time, but they have remained fairly localised.

    In most of England and Wales, plus parts of Scotland, we also have Fallow in good numbers. Many think of Fallow as being one of our native deer, but they to were introduced, probably by the Normans nearly 1000 years ago…

    So strictly speaking only Red and Roe are native, but all the others have established feral populations and are available to stalk completely “fair chase”..

    Regards,

    Peter

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #76435

    Welcome to the site Pete E Look forward to reading about your adventures

    PeteE
    North Wales, UK
    Posts: 21
    #76436

    Joel,

    No wild turky’s as such…There are a couple of shooting estates up in Scotland that have apparently introduced them “behind wire” but thats something I have mixed feelings about..

    I suppose in times gone by, the nearest we had was Capercaillie, (see net pic below) This is the largest member of the grouse family (cocks reach up to 10lb live weight) and they were stalked and shot, usually with a .22 Hornet or similar.

    I think the are still hunted the traditional way over in Scandinavia, but in the UK the are too rare to shot, although I think technically they are still classed as a game bird.

    In the UK they mostly confined to the higher ground in Scotland, and from probably the 1960’s onwards went into decline as large areas of forest were deer fenced…

    Today there are moves a foot to try to preserve them, but their numbers are pretty low, so its touch and go whether it will be effective.

    Regards,

    Peter

    ford1326
    WHITE BEAR LAKE,MN
    Posts: 44
    #76441

    Welcome Pete,
    Thank You for sharing, that is some very beautiful country. I wish you the best, post more pics if you have them.

    chev70
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 1008
    #76442

    Great Reads

    Welcome Pete

    swimingjig
    Waumandee, WI
    Posts: 695
    #76445

    Great pictures! Thank You

    lick
    Posts: 6443
    #76450

    Welcome aboard Pete

    Thanks for sharing those awesome pictures cant wait to hear more

    corey_waller
    hastings mn
    Posts: 1525
    #76451

    THANKS FOR SHARING!!! AND WELCOME

    herefishyfishy
    MN
    Posts: 862
    #76460

    Welcome Those are very interesting pics and such beautiful landscape!! Cant wait to hear from you again.

    johnsy
    Mantorville, Mn
    Posts: 831
    #76466

    Quote:


    Welcome to the site Pete E Look forward to reading about your adventures


    Awesome pictures keep em coming

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #76470

    Welcome to In-Depth Outdoors Pete!!!

    Love your pics thank you for sharing your world with us, I look forward to your future adventures!

    coppertop
    Central MN
    Posts: 2853
    #76478

    Welcome to fun site! Can’t wait to see and hear about future hunting adventures. Awesome pics!

    prieser
    Byron, MN
    Posts: 2274
    #76508

    Welcome Pete, if I missed it I appologize, but what times of the year are your hunting seasons. Great photos and what an awesome landscape to hunt in.

    bob_bergeson
    cannon falls
    Posts: 2798
    #76510

    Welcome to the site!

    up man
    UP MICHIGAN
    Posts: 305
    #76513

    Was there a post earlier about chinese water deer having some sort of “fangs” so to speak? Is that true pete?
    By the way awesome pics please keep them coming

    lick
    Posts: 6443
    #76519

    Quote:


    Welcome Pete, if I missed it I appologize, but what times of the year are your hunting seasons. Great photos and what an awesome landscape to hunt in.


    our seasons are long, and its possible to stalk deer all year around,

    To year round hunting

    PeteE
    North Wales, UK
    Posts: 21
    #76542

    Thanks again to every one for the warm welcome…

    With regards to seasons, below is a link to the *close* season for deer in the UK..So out side those dates, deer can be legally stalked.

    Close Seasons For British Deer

    Regards,

    Peter

    PeteE
    North Wales, UK
    Posts: 21
    #76543

    Quote:


    Was there a post earlier about chinese water deer having some sort of “fangs” so to speak? Is that true pete?

    By the way awesome pics please keep them coming


    Upman, both the bucks and the does have fangs, although the bucks are generally larger as might be expected.

    During the summer, our club has stand at a couple of the larger “game fairs” (a bit like you gun shows?) and one of the tink we do is put various heads and skulls on display.

    Its quite interesting to see the reaction of Joe Public when they see a CWD skull for the first time. The net pics below show what I mean:

    Muntjac also have visible K9 teeth, although a lot smaller than CWD.

    Below the skull from a representitive Muntjac buck off our Club ground. I clean the skull more for practice than because it was a particuarly good trophy. In other parts of the country, Muntjac do produce heavier/bigger antlers, but the area I stalk is not known for producing good Muntjac or Roe….

    Its pretty common for the bucks to beak one or both K9 while fighting, and although small, muntjac have been known to kill dogs that try to get to grips with them…

    Regards,

    Peter

    big_hunter
    eagan, mn
    Posts: 178
    #76545

    welcome to the site!!! i appreciate the pics, looks like an awesome area you have. i look forward to more neat stories from across the pond.

    sootie
    arcadia wi,
    Posts: 213
    #76559

    welcome to the freindlyest site on the net,cool picts,looks like some thick thick timber,

    jeff_heeg
    Marshfield WI.
    Posts: 479
    #76560

    Welcome Pete

    Thanks for sharing some great pictures and the introduction.

    I hope to see you join in on many of the stories and info shared here, a great place here indeed.

    Jeff Heeg

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