DNR Firing

For those that have not seen this on the Fishing side

Go Russ Decker

La Crosse Tribune

Matt Frank……you are full of BS. We all know standing corn provides great cover for deer and they have no reason to leave it but, many hunters drove corn fields without results and noticed little to no sign. How much malarkey are you going to push on us?

The DNR has done nothing to reduce tags, they have however just renamed areas. Instead of T Zone areas we now call them Herd Reduction. Thousands upon thousands of antlerless tags are available for units of which most hunters never seen a deer.

Ed Harvey…..Of course you are against the firing, your job should be in jeopardy also.

No one has said that we need to fill the positions with green horns out of college, although I’m sure they would do a better job.

The positions should be elected not appointed. Maybe the elected would be personnel that actually get there behinds into the field and listen to those that spend many hours in the outdoors instead of a group tracking wildlife from a cubicle.

The DNR has lost count on the Deer, Bear and Wolf populations. The numbers provided from the DNR don’t add up. And the public is becoming aware of it…finally.

And I would also like to know how the 16 day deer season for year 2010 is going to help.

Wisconsin needs to get back to the traditional 9 day hunt. We also need to bring back Buck only units in much of the state and possibly party tags for antlerless to give the herd a chance to rebound.

The DNR caused the demise of the deer herd, not all the other bull they keep feeding us. The excuses have become sickening, forest damage, winter kill….blah, blah, blah.

I fully support Decker, I have sent my letter to the Madison DNR and voiced my opinion on every feed back source to the DNR that I can find. Now that this has been brought up by a State Official it is time for the Wisconsin Deer organization and Deer hunters to keep the pressure on.

Thanks for posting BreTT!

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The positions should be elected not appointed. Maybe the elected would be personnel that actually get there behinds into the field and listen to those that spend many hours in the outdoors instead of a group tracking wildlife from a cubicle.

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I have often thought this and have said it here a few times about these positions (mainly speaking of MN before). All candidates must have certain credentials to get put on the ballot to get elected or run for particular spots.

If you would like to show your support for Russ Decker’s beliefs with the deer herd I’m sure he would appreciate it….. [email protected]

Also, don’t forget to flood Madison DNR with mail!

Senate Majority Leader Russ Decker, D-Weston, said the Department of Natural Resources’ draconian herd-control policies have devastated the deer population, leaving hunters empty-handed. The experts who designed the regulations deserve to lose their jobs, he said.

“They’ve earned what they got coming. They’ve screwed us over too many years in a row now,” Decker told The Associated Press. “They got what they wanted. They wanted a decimated deer herd. I don’t think anybody trusts them anymore.”

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If you would like to show your support for Russ Decker’s beliefs with the deer herd I’m sure he would appreciate it….. <a href=”mailto:[email protected]“>[email protected][/Email]</a>

Also, don’t forget to flood Madison DNR with mail!

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This email address failed when I tried it.

I deleted everything past the “.gov” and it worked for me?
Gregory

I think I fixed it. Thanks for the heads up!

I don’t like this posting one bit. I got all excited thinking that someone finally did something and got rid of some of the bad decision makers when all they are doing is talking about it. Way to bring me down.

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I don’t like this posting one bit. I got all excited thinking that someone finally did something and got rid of some of the bad decision makers when all they are doing is talking about it. Way to bring me down.

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Please don’t take this the wrong way but, it is just that attitude that needs to be cured. There is finally someone in a higher seat that is addressing the situation. Instead of letting yourself get down this should fire everyone up to write the DNR and support Senators that are tying to make a stand and change the way the herd is being managed. The DNR has stepped out of bounds and they need to be cut off at the knees. It can be done if everyone starts up the war, not just a few.
We need to encourage are Senators and let them know we support the idea of taking the power away from the DNR.

Just reading something and then sitting back is not going to help, get fired up. The DNR is suppose to be the stewards of the outdoors, not power hungry money grubbers.

I feel that if you really want to put a dent in it you need to hurt their budget. With the proposed changes I know I won’t be spending nearly as much on licenses in WI next year, I’m just going to start going out of state more or hunt less. FYI I have been writing for the past several years and speaking with our rep when he comes out to the gun club I shoot at. Hopefully license sales will be way down next year and they take notice. My previous post was also meant to be sarcastic, lighten up a bit, life is too short.

I couldn’t agree with you more. I also plan on taking my money out west next year
AS for lightening up….I can’t, I have not been this PO’d in a while

Sorry

“lighten up” may not have been the best choice of words but I am beyond fed up with “Do Nothing Right” club that I am almost numb to it. I’m still trying to warm up to the idea of hunting deer in the middle of a grass field in SD, not sure if I can do that.

I’ll be pulling my rifle stand in N Wi tomorrow. Fairly certain I wont scare any deer…..

Hunting deer in SD is a whole new game for you guys from Skonny I’m sure. You might have to site your rifle in for more than 60 yards.

“involve the public in setting population goals”

I think this is the key thing thats needs to happen to help matters. It requires work from both sides of the fence – public willing to help/get involved, and a DNR willing to listen and change population goals based in part of public input. Hunters have been requesting change for years, its about time the DNR opened at least one ear. But this also requires cooperative public input (at hearings, via phone calls or letters, etc…) Simply complaining amongst ourselves won’t get us very far. So if you have the opportunity to speak up and make a difference, do it!!

All of the talk about season lengths, EAB, doe tag regulations, etc all come back to and are based off of populations goals set by the DNR. These goals take into account multiple social, economic and biological factors. Once these goals change, things should hopefully snowball for the better from there. I would think that this is really the key issue here. Priority numero uno for dissatisfied hunters….

Get the DNR head out from under the governor’s thumb would be a priority as well. That fact is rediculous.

I had to laugh at that one Kooty. This year was the first time I shot at a deer more than 40 yds. away (I sit in my bowstand for rifle hunting). Needless to say it wasn’t pretty, it took 7 shots to get him down. When I skinned him he was full of small pieces of my bullets, a .270 doesn’t go through heavy brush at 150 yds. very well aparantly. The deer probably thought he was being bittin by mosquitos.

Thanks for the contact Bret Just fired off a

letter to Russ Decker. Feels good to have a strong voice

representing us.

Another problem that is on the horizon is the upcoming 4

day doe only hunt. (Hope it gets canceled) With all of the

hunters, friends and family included, not harvesting deer during the nine day season,

you can bet they will be out in force trying to fill their

tag, and who can blame them? These does will be near food

sources and probably be starting to yard up some with this

cold blast, add a little snow cover with it then you have

a hurting herd taking another hit

I agree with elected officials in the dnr.Peta has preached for years for students to go into wildlife degrees to win from whithin.Whether you agree or not,it’s a fact.By hammering on our elected numnuts,we might change this.But to really change this would be to have young hunters go in to wildlife professions,and reverse this peta crap!
sorry,I had to vent.

Look and see how your assembly rep voted on bill 138, which would give the power back to the Natural Resources Board to appoint a DNR secretary instead of the govenor. Even if he did vote for the bill, write him anyway. An override vote hopefully will be scheduled soon and we can get this bill through. We were only one vote shy of two-thirds majority in both the assembly and the senate. Maybe someone we appoint can do a better job than the moron Doyle has in now. Matt Frank should be held responsible in my opinion.

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2009/data/votes/av0312.pdf

Great info mrjigger, thanks for posting

Too good not to post.

I am voluntarily not hunting this weekend to fill my doe tag. I was looking forward to it but I butchered one deer which is plenty for my family so there’s no way I can justify shooting a doe knowing what I know now about my area. I encourage others to do the same though I cant blame them for following the rules. The DNR is soley to blame for this tragedy.

That cartoon pic is awsome!

Suzuki, I’ll give you 72% DNR’s fault. My formula is too complicated for a post.
I too, am not hunting the T-zone.
When asked about the over winter goal numbers, most DNR folk will just use the answer–“it’s a state mandated number and only our job to get there”. Well, they are not lying. Firing the DNR guy will end up being nothing more than a budget cut for the state and lip service-until those numbers are changed it is all for not. If you choose to contact your rep., look up info on these unit goal numbers and give them some real data to chew on–well as the subjective “I’m pissed because I saw no deer this year”. Most of these reps most likely are not well versed in wildlife issues, let alone hunting.