Hide your Guns…Here it comes!

Are those Clam X series shacks on the sidelines??

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Ice Houses??

Now that’s HOCKEY!

That was a Fun game to watch. hopefully MN is on their list of places to hold the classic in the future.

Wow…..hockey outside, how often do you see that?

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hopefully MN is on their list of places to hold the classic in the future.

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I would love to see this too, the only thing is we don’t have an outdoor arena/rink big enough to hold this event at this time I went over to Lambeau Field last year for the Frozen Tundra game. Wis. Badgers against Ohio State. Ohio got a severe beat down I don’t like to see the Badgers win, but I’ll be d**med if I am going to root for Ohio. It was crazy seeing Lambeau Field turned into a hockey rink This was an absolute blast I REALLY hope we can host this event sometime soon.

It’s called TCF stadium. Gophers vs. Fighting Sioux (Or whatever they are by then, Fighting Prairie Dogs)in the new TCF Stadium. Won’t it seat 50,000. Bet they could fill it no problem. I have no ties to either program and am not a regular viewer of hockey but would go as a spectator just to be a part of the spectacle.

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University of Wisconsin did it a while back for a game at Lambeau against Ohio State. Here’s a story on that one.

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University of Wisconsin did it a while back for a game at Lambeau against Ohio State. Here’s a story on that one.

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Hey thanks for sharing that with me.

Go to the House of Rep. and check this out. It is for real and should scare anyone who believes in their right to own a gun.

It is House Bill 45.

Let your Rep. know this is not what we want.

BLAST THIS OUT TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!

From my cold dead hands……..

Blair Holt Firearm Licensing
& Record of Sale Act
2-16-9

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.
This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.
Even gun shop owners didn’t know about this because it is flying under the radar.
To find out about this – go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.
Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm – any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
·It is registered
·You are fingerprinted
·You supply a current Driver’s License
·You supply your Social Security #
·You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing
·Each update – change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 – Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.
·There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18.
They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs.. in prison.
If you think this is a joke – go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family – pass this along.
Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on K.H.O.W. 6:30 a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and “spring into action”. Also he suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.
This is just a “termite” approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense – chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.
This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.
If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for 26 years I know this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in less danger from their victims.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45
Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA
More On Gun Grab HR 45 Here…
http://news.google.com/news?oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=in&ned=&q=HR+45&btnG=Search+News

Rose Lear
[email protected]
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/378/
http://hellomichigan.blogspot.com/

John 15: 20

“If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you”

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THIS IS BULL POOP!

They will not stop at this measure either. They will take it all away people!

Snopes says it was TRUE and it was on CNN last night!

Who or what is behind all of this?

There will be a day when when the only way to get a gun will be to lease it from the gov’t during hunting seasons only. And the real bad guys will still have their guns.

Gotcha RR!

This is still the first step of others to follow and still infringes on my right to bear arms. Again these laws and bills are useless against “TRUE CRIMINALS” and only makes it harder and protrudes on our privacy for us “LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. It has been proven here in the US, Canada and Europe these measures/tactics/laws do not work PERIOD.

I contacted U.S. senators about this a few weeks ago and never got any response back. I am going through the state lawmakers now. The state may be the best way to get anwsers. ther are a few states out there that are telling the feds to stick it! Too bad I live in a peoples republic.

Relax a little fellas! There have been ridiculous bills like this before that have never seen the light of day. Honestly, not worried about it…….never get MY guns anyways!

My understanding is HR 45 died on the floor. That is the good news. The bad news it is but the beginning of a long line of gun control measures sure to come the next 2-4 years. let’s hope people WAKE UP and make it just two years. But these bills will continue to come. Most will be over zealously written such as HR 45. It is the ones that seem quiet in comparison that scare me. HR 45 got the attention of every gun owner in the world. Will the next one if it if carefully written and seemingly harmless in comparison? Don’t relax and don’t relent. Make it ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that we as gun owners will accept NO gun control bill. NONE!

Bills like the TSA and homeland security passed that violated citizens right? The reason bills die is people are aware of them, contact the lawmakers before they can sneak it through.
The feds are already ignoring admendment 9 and 10. 1 and 2 are sure to follow. Laugh if you want but I wonder how many will really hold on to their guns if it comes down to it. You talk the talk but will you walk the walk?

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Bills like the TSA and homeland security passed that violated citizens right? The reason bills die is people are aware of them, contact the lawmakers before they can sneak it through.
The feds are already ignoring admendment 9 and 10. 1 and 2 are sure to follow. Laugh if you want but I wonder how many will really hold on to their guns if it comes down to it. You talk the talk but will you walk the walk?

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I am in no way trying to downplay the seriousness of these bills, I get it! Should we be concerned? Absolutley! Being pro-active and doing SOMETHING instead of nothing is what we should all do. That being said, I’m still not too worried about it, maybe I’m wrong and naive. To answer your question, ya, I’m gonna walk the walk.

On another note, I worked for the airline industry for 12 years and now law enforcement for 2. I have some personal thoughts about a few of the issues you mention. TSA, ya it sucks big time, don’t like it any more than the rest of you! Let us remember that very bad people boarded our airplanes with very bad intentions, if I have to stand in line for a few more minutes for security reasons, so be it!I’ll take the piece of mind knowing that some nut job doesn’t have explosives strapped to their legs. Unfortunately things will never be the same in America, there’s really not much you and I can do about it. So I’ll deal with that.

The government wants to make it more difficult to purchase and bear arms for a reason, to keep weapons out of the hands of bad people. If I, as a law abiding citizen, have to jump through a couple of hoops designed to make our streets and families safer in the long run…….so be it. Is it a cure all? No way! But if it keeps just one person from being killed or hurt is it worth it? How about the crackhead who’s robbing the grocery store with a bat instead of a gun when your family walks in? I don’t pretend to believe that it’s a cure all, never will be.

I’m not trying to start a debate, just my opinion. Like I said, maybe I’m just naive and just not getting it. If that’s the case……..still not getting my guns!

Oh ya, the NRA has a brand new member…..me.

I wrote a note to my Congressman (Ron Kind) and asked him not to vote. Below is his response. Important to note that the bill IS still alive and in subcomittee. Luckily, no other officials have co-sponsored.

Dear Dan:

Thank you for contacting me regarding gun control. I appreciate hearing from you on this issue.

As someone who has enjoyed hunting and fishing in scenic western Wisconsin my whole life, I am opposed to any legislation that would prevent law-abiding citizens from owning a gun. As a former local prosecutor, however, I have dealt with the effects of gun violence first-hand, and as a father and a husband, I am convinced that firearms should not fall into the hands of convicted felons and others who might misuse them.

The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 provides the primary mechanism through which the federal government ensures that guns are not sold to those most likely to use them to harm other people. The law requires background checks to be completed on all non-licensed persons seeking to obtain firearms from federal firearm licensees. As a result of this law, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) established the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in 1998, which allows gun dealers to filter out known felons or other criminals so they cannot purchase weapons to use in future crimes.

While federal law sets a minimum standard for gun control, I continue to believe that the best solutions are not going to be found in the halls of Congress, but back home in our communities where parents, schools, and officials from local governments and law enforcement can determine what works best. Please be assured that if legislation regarding gun control is introduced in the 111th Congress, I will keep your thoughts in mind.

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please do not hesitate to be in touch with additional comments or concerns. I also encourage you to visit my website, http://www.house.gov/kind, where you can find updated information, sign up to receive my electronic newsletter, and send me an e-mail.

Sincerely,

Ron Kind
Member of Congress

Let me wonder out loud a few points….

Now, we have the right right now to punish criminals who use guns in crimes, guns stolen or otherwise. But we choose to plea bargain them down or do whatever. Right?

So now, a criminal can still use (Under this proposal)unmarked ammo and kill someone. They will go to jail for a couple years, and get out like they do now.

But with this new bill…all the above is still in play just like I wrote it…but the innocent law abiding person can be arrested and prosecuted by not following the letter of the law.

Again, wondering out loud…who is the one that is hurt by this bill? Does it do a thing to prevent that criminal from doing his crime? The laws are on the books! Put some teeth in them!!!

The ONLY point I will make here is that legislators are put into office to protect our rights and the Constitution. Not to add roadblocks to our life LIBERTY and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention trample the 2nd Ammendment because it does not say what THEY want.

IMHO, there are WAY MORE Americans who support the right to keep and bear arms, than there are not. Any of these foolish acts and laws they can dream up, if they actually were enacted, the people would kick their arses out of office so fast, there heads would spin. Also, 1 politician can dream up a bill, doesn’t make it law of the land. I refuse to look at unrealistic “proposed” legislation as nothing but a politician trying to drum up notoriety for him/herself. I also have yet to see a bill, that says “law abiding citizens cannot own guns” but that is what alot of people see when they read this drivel. Gun and ammo laws have been written and proposed, since the day they were invented. Do we need gun laws ? Yes. Am I worried I may see in my lifetime, the day I will have to turn over my guns, No. Would I ? No. Like mentioned, the best thing you can do is let your congress persons know where you stand on all the issues. Thats the cool thing, we get to do it at election time. It’s kinda funny to me too, anytime there is a change in power in Washington, the sky is falling again, but it seems, in my 41 years, I have never been hit by a cloud yet ??? It is human nature to over react, when we see something different/change, to be sceptical and wary. But hey, it’s everyones right to do so Bye for now

big G

A little more than drivel! They will try to do it in small steps. here are just a few.
1. allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.

re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.

ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.
a complete ban on handgun ownership.

local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.

supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.

What is the ban almost all rifle ammo ? Haven’t heard that one yet ???

big G

I remember several years ago listening to smokers brag that they could never ban smoking in public places. Now I see people claim that by gun owners saying it happens in small steps that “we” are over reacting. Really? The smoking ban is a perfect example of incrementalism. Keep thinking it can’t happen will do nothing to ensure our rights. Neither will negotiating them away.

FWIW I do not believe they could ever make us destroy ammo bought before encoding became law, should it ever occur. I believe Ex Post Facto protects us from that. Of course they’d try to find a way around it.

Over reacting? The Clinton Ban, the Brady Bill…these things happened already! Now there is nothing stopping Congress and the President this go around. Being vigilant is one thing. Burying your head in the sand is another.

The Clinton Bill and Brady has not affected me at all… what has it done to you? There, my head is out….

big G

It forced me to obtain a permit to carry so that I don’t have to jump through hoops when I want to purchase a gun. And Cliton’s ban was overturned by the Bush Admin. If you don’t care to use your second ammendment rights like some of us do in purchasing specific rifles and accessories, please don’t stand in our way when we voice our opinions against it. You can sit by and do nothing but shake your head and say “It will never happen here” even though it already has! That is your perogative, and that is fine by me. We will go to bat and attempt to protect your rights for you as well.

The klinton AWB ban affected everyone who shoots for any reason. The prices of goods directly affected by the inane hi cap magazine ban spread into all things involved in shooting. But the better question is this. We have a very definite before and after picture of the AWB ban. The real question isn’t what did the AWB ban do to “me” but what did it do to crime? It expired under Bush II’s watch. Now the new bozo in charge is in a hurry to reinstate it. Why? You claim that gun owners are screaming the sky is falling because of a new president. Well why is the new president, in effect, doing the same thing by positioning to reinstate the AWB? Show me where the sky fell after the ban expired.

Banning high capacity magazines solves and prevents crimes the same way background checks and ballistic finger printing guns and micro stamping ammo will. Not at all! While I own no hi cap mags I see no reason I shouldn’t be able to. What is the difference if I have one 30 round drum or several 10 round magazines? If I’m in a gun free zone I could use a freaking single shot rimfire and kill a dozen people. I’d wager a bet a person with a cool head and a old fashioned muzzle loader could knock off a half dozen or more in 8-10 minutes. What unarmed person is going to attempt rushing a person shooting? It’s take a pretty cool Joe to recognize the freak show trying to kill him is using a smoke pole and understand he could likely stop him.

Again all this control stuff does is further restrict those of us who will not cause problems in the first place. Think the criminals care about AWBs and the like? Duh.

Oh one more thing it does, and this is key. The government is really not at all interested in preventing crimes. Lip service my friends. What they are interested in is two things. Control being number one. They know citizens are subjects without the ability to defend themselves. Imagine what they can get away with if we’re unarmed! Secondly, and this is likely an unplanned for by product, is the increased tax revenue. How do these restriction mean increased income? Simple mathematics my friends. They found out that by telling us we cannot have something, or might lose something, we’ll want it no matter if we wanted it or not. Now we are willing to spend more to get it. Did you know 5.5% tax on a $12 box of ammo is less than the same 5.5% is on a $18 box is? Imagine how it compounds when the price jumps some 50% per unit and the per unit sales increase several hundred percent! You’d be extremely foolish to not think that is a major factor in what is going on.

/end conspiracy theory.

I guess I am not blocking your efforts to speak against the bill… I question the thread title “Hide your Guns…Here it comes!” What I read, has me hiding none of my guns or ammo ??? That’s what I would call “over reacting” somehow getting to having to hide your guns from the proposed legislation that has already been defeated… People should be informed, not mis-informed… you’d have to agree with that, right ???

big G