law is to easy on these type of people

  • hdmeyer
    Posts: 79
    #37339

    i agree with RR Having a son for 9 years in the house doing how knows what then not having him around will eat him alive

    jrrendler
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 341
    #37340

    Wow, I understand going lightly with the sentence due to the situation but this is a joke. Let’s see….drugs, alcohol, no license, not his land…..this irritates me so much I can’t even read articles about it. I wonder what kind of a senetence a person will get who overshoots a deer this fall and the bullet travels a long distance and kills a guy? Bet it isn’t 30 days…

    birddog
    Mn.
    Posts: 1957
    #37396

    Is he paying for what he did? In his heart and head he is. But yes, I think 30 nights is a light sentence for the multiple laws broken topped off with manslaughter. But, in the end, the amount of jail time doesn’t matter…I don’t think he’ll be a repeat offender.

    What I do take issue with is the fact that part of his punishment is to teach HUNTER SAFETY to others!! Sorry, but I don’t want this guy teaching any kid or adult about hunter safety! What was that judge thinking??

    BIRDDOG

    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #37402

    Quote:


    What I do take issue with is the fact that part of his punishment is to teach HUNTER SAFETY to others!! Sorry, but I don’t want this guy teaching any kid or adult about hunter safety! What was that judge thinking??

    BIRDDOG


    I believe the judge is trying to accomplish two things. First off, it is punishment for Anothony Klaseus to stand up in front of others teaching the importance of gun safety everyone knowing he shot and killed his own son. He will have to answer questions about that day again and relive it his mortal mistake. Additionally, I believe the individuals in the class may take gun safety a little more seriously listening to a man who mistook his own son for a turkey. I’m sure he will be trained properly or may have an additional trainer with him when he conducts the class. I would be in favor of my son attending his class.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22450
    #37404

    His sentence of 30 nights, is really the rest of his life. Putting him in prison, will solve/cure nothing, I can pretty much guarantee he won’t do this again. Having him talk about his situation, will be good therapy for him and like Brad says, should get the point across to the audience. No matter what, his son is gone and maybe a little good can come out of it, if it prevents similar situations from occurring. My .02 (I would have liked to seen some court ordered drug and/or alcohol treatment as well)

    big G

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #37423

    ‘ell I would like to attend.

    birddog
    Mn.
    Posts: 1957
    #37453

    He has to complete a treatment program, and rightly so.

    If the “teach hunter safety” means speaking about his actions that day…maybe…If he can keep it together, the final outcome MIGHT be good for children? Can he keep it together?? And even if he can…is he the right person to speak to children about death? I have to question that.

    It goes deeper than simply speaking to kids about his accident, all’s good, they’ll learn a valuable lesson from his “speech”. The story he’s going to tell is not a fairy tale, it’s a nightmare.
    We, as adults, understand guns, death and this terrible story, do kids? This story hits all of us hard…how about a kid? What’s he going to say to them?

    If he loses control, starts bawling and “freaking out”?? We all know that’s a real possibility…I mean he killed his kid and is now going to relive that moment in front of children?? We’re talking about a speech all of us would have a hard time listening to. Not so sure I want children subject to that, at least “mine”. Talk about having the potential to damage a childs psyche!

    If this sentence means TEACHING hunter safety. I don’t agree with that at all…No way, no how…I can’t think of anyone LESS qualified!

    BIRDDOG

    jrrendler
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 341
    #37465

    Birddog,
    I agree with you 100%. When I first heard of this, I told my son we would walk out of that class. He agreed with me. I guess there are just some of us that don’t believe we need to be part of some guys therapy. I just can’t imagine sitting there listening to some guy telling me that it’s a bad idea to smoke some weed, have a few beers, grab the gun and the kid, go down the road to some property you don’t own, and try to shoot a bird without a hunting license. My response is NO KIDDING!!

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22450
    #37467

    It was just my opinion. If I had a young hunter, I would like him/her to hear about this tragedy. I have been on hunts before back in the day, when I was younger, where a few “beers” would get consumed. Just like young people will have a few beers and get behind the wheel…. I believe most of us have been there at one time or another in our life. If you haven’t, then you probably were raised in a bubble. It’s hard to agree 100% all the time, but I believe that if his message hits home with one young hunter, it is worth it and his son losing his life would not totally be in vain.

    big G

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #37469

    Quote:


    I believe that if his message hits home with one young hunter, it is worth it and his son losing his life would not totally be in vain.



    I agree
    My daughter and I took the youth gun safety class last year and it is typical for them to have different speakers come in and talk to the class on different nights. One of the nights they try and have someone who has been involved in some kind of hunting accident talk to the class, they also have videos of different things that can happen when firearms are not handled properly and safely. I am the first one to say that this guy is a complete bone head and pulled every dumb move in the book, he is going to have to live with the fact that he killed his son every day of his life but maybe he can turn his life around and do some good with his life, if others can learn from his mistakes, if he can make an impression on these young hunters then IMHO that is a good thing.

    birddog
    Mn.
    Posts: 1957
    #37485

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    I would like him/her to hear about this tragedy.


    I agree, any and every young hunter should hear about these type of stories. Absolutely, no question!

    But, I think explaining this type of story is better left to mom and dad, or someone they trust. The people that raise and or understand the best way to relay the message to that individual child.

    I have to believe most hunting families have talked about this incident with their child, if not, they should. I also have to believe that every parent explained or will explain it differently, the best way they know how to get the point across to that individual child. This is great.

    Now, we’re going to lump all children together in a classroom and say his story, the way he tells it, is going to be good for all of them?

    G, not pointed in your direction, or anyone elses. Just questions and statements everyone should take in to consideration as this subject goes deeper than a simple speech. Especially when we’re talking about kids.

    BIRDDOG

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #37486

    Quote:


    Just questions and statements everyone should take in to consideration as this subject goes deeper than a simple speech. Especially when we’re talking about kids.


    Good point for sure, I do not think he should talk to kids right away, he needs to get his act together first and that would mean getting clean kicking the drugs and the booze and then doing something positive with his life. Some of the best speakers are those who have been down life’s bumpy road themselves and have now turned there life around by sharing there story and having a positive effect on others. With all that being said if he can not get clean and off the drugs and booze then I would agree with you 100 percent, no way I would want him talking to kids.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22450
    #37488

    I don’t know the specifics of his court ordered sentence, but when I say young hunters, I am talking about 13+ years of age, that might have been issued citations for anything from uncased travel to trespass, to shooting over the highway or hunting under the influence. I don’t believe he should be talking to small kids, wanting to get their firearms certification. Much like people cited for DUI, have to go to a MADD panel, young hunters who maybe have done something they shouldn’t have, I would think might benefit, seeing how something can go terribly wrong when we don’t use firearms responsibly & use poor judgement.

    big G

    balexander667
    Posts: 57
    #38334



    But, I think explaining this type of story is better left to mom and dad, or someone they trust. The people that raise and or understand the best way to relay the message to that individual child.

    I have to believe most hunting families have talked about this incident with their child, if not, they should. I also have to believe that every parent explained or will explain it differently, the best way they know how to get the point across to that individual child. This is great.



    Birddog,
    I understand what your saying about this whole thing. I for one have kids. And sometimes kids listen to others a little better when it’s coming from someone else. Now don’t get me wrong, my kids listen to me and their Dad, but sometimes, they listen a little better from someone else. Not meaning that they would listen better to Anthony but just someone that has been through this or has known someone that has gone through it. I know some of Anthony’s family. I work with them. They have to deal with this as well. Anthony and his wife and his other children didn’t just lose their son/brother but the WHOLE FAMILY lost someone that they love. Now, if my kids are going to learn something from all this and other future hunters, then I say “great, let’s not let it happen again”. EVERY HUNTER has to be aware of everything going on around them.

    Again, it’s just not Anthony that’s going to have to live with this horrible accident, it’s his son’s whole family.

    Marie

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