Hunting ethics question

Hunted Saturday to Monday in MN. A guy we were with on a drive, shot an illegal buck for that zone. He buried it. We did not know until after the hunt but some guys did. For me that’s hard to even type. This is this persons second time in 3 years taking an illegal deer. The DNR was involved with the first incident. Question is, what would you do with this situation? DNR has been notified but has not got back. Would you ever let him hunt with you again?

No

Nooooope.

Who the heck buries a perfectly good deer I mean there is no question about it this guy shouldn’t be hunting period I don’t care if it’s legal or not at least eat the damn thing and not let a perfectly good animal go to waste

Wouldn’t have let him back after the first offense. All that does is give the DNR a reason to keep a close eye on you guys. Not saying you’d do anything wrong but they can nitpick and find something. I’ve seen it done.

Jeff Schomaker wrote:

Wouldn’t have let him back after the first offense. All that does is give the DNR a reason to keep a close eye on you guys. Not saying you’d do anything wrong but they can nitpick and find something. I’ve seen it done.

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couldn’t have said it better myself

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This guy does not sound like good company to keep.

I’m curious to know how he explained himself? Wasn’t the whole group furious with him? Was there nobody there to stop him from wasting the animal?

Guy is no hunter, he is a poacher. Mistakes happen, but not twice and burying it is just unreal. Total tool.

Everyone is absolutely furious and embarrassed. He did a really poor job of explaining the situation. We had no idea until after the hunt. We told him go get it or we will do it for him and turn him in basically. He claims he went down today to look for it and turn it over to the dnr. Said he couldn’t find it. Its a horror story. The person to stop him was the one who told us all about it. He advised the person who shot the deer to do the right thing at the time of the incident. Obviously the shooter disregarded that.

ClownColor wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>pool2fool wrote:</div>
I’m curious to know how he explained himself? Wasn’t the whole group furious with him? Was there nobody there to stop him from wasting the animal?

Yeah…this seems pretty made up or he’s not telling the correct story. Deer drive? Buried deer? How did no one know? And do you really need to ask the question?????

FIY to the OP, i was just asking questions, not implying any fault or failure in your part.

I Don’t see the need to jump to conclusions Bob.

Yep thanks for asking. I did. This guy has been a good friend for 20 plus years. I know what’s right but it’s a tough to have to break up a tradition like that because of his stupid decisions. Hope that clears it up.

Gotcha. No biggie.

Another reason why I truly hate gun season.
The guy has no respect for the deer or fellow hunters. Obviously he doesn’t identify his target well. His next wounded animal could be human.

Like I explained, I know what’s right. I put this on a forum to show the others in my group to change their mind if they are wavering on a decision. I’m with you all. I don’t want him back and won’t hunt if he come back. Why would the whole party get in trouble? Where we hunt you can party hunt does.

E Ashwell wrote:

Why would the whole party get in trouble?

I suppose if you knew he killed an illegal deer and did nothing you could be an accessory to the crime.

ClearCreek

It was a large drive with a large group. When it was over 2 of 14 knew what had happened. We did everything we could do at the time we found out which was unfortunately after the hunt. We were in our trucks going home. We are by the books. Please don’t let this story about this paint a picture that my group is a bunch of reckless hunters. One bad egg.

Time to Poach the one bad egg!

As stated by others this guy maybe a good friend but cut him loose and let him mature.

One time mistake maybe but with real repercussions from the entire group with all the group letting this guy know this will not be tolerated….PERIOD!

sorry this happened with a good friend of 20 years. Friendships are important, especially ones that have lasted that long. To answer your question should you allow him to hunt with you guys again? answer – HELL NO!

I’d let the DNR work this out. If hunting privileges are revoked, you won’t need to worry about inviting him along next year. First and only rule of pointing your gun, know exactly what you are aiming at. Sad story, sad that he put your group into that position.

This guy should never have access to a firearm again. He’s obviously not out there for the sport, he is out there to kill something, plain and simple.

And if it were me, personally I would distance myself from him as it’s obvious he’s not all that great with making well thought out decisions.

How in hell can that happen on a drive?

This is why I archery hunt to many dummies out there.

E Ashwell wrote:

Yep thanks for asking. I did. This guy has been a good friend for 20 plus years. I know what’s right but it’s a tough to have to break up a tradition like that because of his stupid decisions. Hope that clears it up.

You’ll only feel that way until he puts you in a position of losing your hunting/fishing privileges

I don’t know, I’m not sure how good of a friend he is for putting your group of friends in a bad position. Is that what friends do?

Second time? Inexcusable. He’s no friend and no sportsman. Report him.

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I would give him one more chance but in the future tell him that he cant bring the shovel for burying stuff.

I would personally find it odd that the guy always has access to something to dig a hole for burying things?

BS

It boils down to knowing what your shooting at. As someone said the next time could be a human… It scares me beyond words hunting out by others. I can control my own actions but I can’t control others.

He wouldn’t be invited back in my books.

Gone. bye bye He’s dangerous.

Growing up, until I turned about 35, deer hunting was they one thing I did EVERY year. I was obsessed. I haven’t hunted deer for a few years now because I don’t trust many in the party to do the right thing.

Personally, I feel there are plenty of deer around to provide a good harvest. If someone has to skirt the law to shoot a deer, I don’t feel they deserve to harvest one. Put in your time in the woods, picking out your place and setting up stands and cutting shooting lanes. Then share the harvest. Celebrate with the guys that got one. Not everyone needs to shoot a deer. That’s what a good party does.

I miss deer camp. But now its ruined and I have no desire to do it anymore. I come up with an excuse every year to not go. But they know why.

I hope this doesn’t happen to your party.

saugeye-steve wrote:

I would give him one more chance but in the future tell him that he cant bring the shovel for burying stuff.

I would personally find it odd that the guy always has access to something to dig a hole for burying things?

BS

One more chance?! Aren’t you the guy that made a joke about the Texas shooting?