How many are impacted with job loss?

MNdrifter wrote:

Found out yesterday I’m a “class one essential front line employee”. Got to keep the lights on and natural gas flowing.

No doubt, we need you drifter!

My consternation is that although our department has already been given our layoff notices effective in 6 weeks…and add to that we have at most an hour of work for an 8 hour day, they’re still requiring us to “run the infection gauntlet” to come downtown on an empty bus to do basically nothing at all.

I’m experiencing the laissez-faire BS that is symptomatic of our corporate greed and sluggish government response.

Oh…s’il vous plait

MN is lifting waiting week for un employment so that is nice. I’m still working in the trades but things may change daily. I sure as heck ain’t spending my time worrying about things out of my control.
KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON

No effect for me . . yet, but the Mrs is an optometrist and sounds like they are on the fast track to seeing only emergency patients which is going to mean a big-time drop in hours for her. Not good if it’s any pronged period but I’m sure other families have it worse.

As of now everything is going to be OK in our household. My FW is a nurse at an old folks home, her job isn’t going anywhere. She’s actually been picking up more hours lately, which is great! I work as a Tool & Die Maker for a smallish company & we have no plans on shutting down unless the government says so. Fingers crossed we make it through the “shutdown”.

We did get a E-mail from the school yesterday asking about computers at home & internet access. Nothing official yet, but sounds like the kids will be finishing the school year out at home. Fortunately for us they are old enough to be home by themselves. I feel bad for you folks with kids too young to be home alone..

News sources are reporting the treasury secretary said in a meeting the unemployment rate could hit 20%. Unemployed people don’t buy much stuff. Manufacturers & sellers of stuff thus make and sell less stuff. Making and selling less stuff leads to cutting costs and layoffs, which leads to more people buying less stuff.

What is happening now has to lead to shock waves throughout the economy. How can it not?

Discuss (without politics as this affects everyone)?

I work in the trade show business and have for 32 years, there aren’t any shows for at least 8 weeks, probably quite a bit longer. It isn’t looking good. A good majority of our employees are supposed to be furloughed this week, we just don’t know who yet. This sucks something fierce, but we will get thru it somehow.

STill working, I am in IT for hospital but I think starting next week I am going to start working from home. The wife’s job she is a cleaner for a few business and I have no idea.

I am a teacher-getting bored but getting paid-will do some work from home soon.Nice to have a union.

I am lucky enough to be working from home. We are god awful busy right now as well so no complaints there.

The wife is a Dentist and the ADA told them you’re done for 3 weeks and only emergencies will happen. That’s a huge hit to the household income, but we have always been smart and have a good savings. I am not to worried about it right now. If this goes for a year, I might panic.

My opinion only… the Virus has been here for over 3 months.. it did not wait to get on a plane in China, last fall… hundreds of thousands have had it already and don’t even know it (I think I was one) the mysterious cough I couldn’t shake for a couple weeks and the 3 day fever. I was popping cough drops for 2 weeks… was tested for Strep and Flu… negative… quoting the PA “you have some kind of virus, but its not the flu” I steamed and gargled with warm salt water… it provided relief… just what they say to do with this virus. Oh yeah, to the thread, I was hiring 2 weeks ago… Laid off over a dozen yesterday.

I have a mostly estranged brother. He’s 51 and has some issues, never has had a driver’s license, rides a bike year round. No cell phone or internet. He worked at Bakers Square in Highland Park for 31 years. They’ve been dying on the vine for years and filled bankruptcy about a month ago. I tried telling him to get a nighttime job doing custodial work at the VA but he didn’t listen. I honestly don’t know what he’s going to do.

Many if not most will have a job to go back to when this is over. I went to one of my local watering holes yesterday to see how folks were reacting and to throw back a few. The place I went to was a very local tavern in a resedential neighborhood. Been there forever. The owner lived just a few houses down from us at one time so we are familiar.

He locked the door at 5 and anyone who was in there got 2 free beers before he would start forcing people to leave. He was in tears at the end. Didn’t think he was going to be able to open the doors after even 10 days of no business. He does not want nor can he absorb a loan even if it’s interest free. Him and his wife are in their 70’s but this is all they have known or cared about. This was as real to them as any end of life experience.

So many independent business people out there who will have nothing to go back to and little if any safety net. I hope this is all worth it.

I’m in HVAC project management, wife nannies for a family consisting of a pharmacist and a physicians assistant. Wife won’t be out of work and has had to take more hours since the parents both have extra meetings and paperwork to do. I’m slammed with work and the only thing changing for us right now is access to some hospitals we have work coming up with.

After watching how people overspent leading up to the 2008 recession, I learned to plan better. Paid ahead a few months on mortgage and car note. Emergency fund in savings. Don’t finance toys. Watching the markets right now ready to pick up some stocks at great discounts.

Im a 1099 sales rep. I sell hip and knee replacements. Im on 100% commission. I was told yesterday all three of my hospitals will stop joint replacements today with no start day listed

Business as usual where I work. In fact, we just got a 3.5 million dollar order today.

From a company in China…

Was just telling my daughter how fortunate we are. As of yesterday, I’m on mandated telework-and fortunate that it’s an option. Wife is a childrens protective services social worker, ironically currently exempt from the restrictions her county put out yesterday. Bottom line is, our paychecks will keep coming. If a work stoppage, we both have several weeks of vacation. Mine because I have a generous leave package, hers because parents won’t stop using meth long enough for her to use her vacation.
At any rate, we’re lucky. Bars/restaurants closed here yesterday, so it’s time to shift focus to others less fortunate and see where we can help.

Look out for your neighbors and loved ones, and if you can, help someone out today.

IceNEyes1986 wrote:

we have no plans on shutting down unless the government says so. Fingers crossed we make it through the “shutdown”.

This just got real for my family. The place where my wife works has just been shut down by the government. She is self-employed and rents an area of the business. So she can’t file for unemployment that I know of. This is a big hit for us and there is some talk about layoffs where I work. We will hang in there. I wish the best for everyone. Hopefully this won’t drag on for months.

Hang in there everyone.

I work for UMN doing communications and tech stuff. Right now it’s ALL tech help, assisting people who have never worked form home as they get up and running, assisting our faculty, some of whom are in their 70s and pretty much computer illiterate, as they transition to holding classes online, etc. My wife is a special ed teacher in north Minneapolis so she’s getting paid but really struggling with the process. Her students are a handful even in person. Nevertheless we feel extremely fortunate to have income right now.

My parents are 66 and planned on retiring in June. I have no idea how that’s going to work anymore. They just sold their house and can’t get into their townhome for a few weeks. They had planned on spending the interim in Florida but instead they get to pile into our 900 sqft house in St Paul.

My parents both are retiring in April. My father has worked (by choice) to age 68, and my mother 66. Both have paid in to their various retirement accounts for over 40 years as a government worker and have always been the most fiscally conservative, or tight, people I’ve known. My father alone calculated his situation with hits to his various mutual funds, retirement, etc. and it will cost him approximately $80,000 in value from where he was at a month ago. As a cancer survivor at age 68, he openly admits he will never gain that value back. My parents will be fine, but it stinks to see it happen to hardworking retirees.

my wife and i both work in IT and we are fortunate to be able to work from home indefinitely. I feel very lucky and i am very concerned about how other people are gonna get through this if it continues to be this bad. Many of my family members turn a wrench for a living and if their shops close down there will be trying times

Really the more you think about this the more Dutchy is spot on, tip of iceberg.

I said a week ago right after the presidential address $hit has hit the fan. Where were you on 3/11?

One week in, and all this? Give it a month, gonna be an economic $hitshow no matter what the virus does.

Deuces wrote:

Really the more you think about this the more Dutchy is spot on, tip of iceberg.

I’ve been thinking that too.

Regarding the OP, my job is in physical security of critical infrastructure, so really no change in work for me. The only change would be if things get even worse we could be quarantined at work for an undetermined amount of time to ensure we can still provide security.

My wife and her parents ran a small business until the end of 2019 and they’ve said that they would for sure be closing down now if they were still open because they wouldn’t have the customers coming through.

My job is safe. However my office is not. Sent home to work in isolation….

– J.

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I think its more of a mountain being made out of a molehill, than the iceberg analogy. If you listen to the Medical doctors who get about 2 minutes of airtime a day, influenza is much worse, comparatively and the media should be ashamed. All I am gonna say on that.

big_g wrote:

I think its more of a mountain being made out of a molehill, than the iceberg analogy. If you listen to the Medical doctors who get about 2 minutes of airtime a day, influenza is much worse, comparatively and the media should be ashamed. All I am gonna say on that.

The reason why this reasoning doesn’t work (comparing it to Influenza) is the fact that there is this thing called a FLU SHOT. It suppresses the infection rate and keeps it manageable. It’s the reason hospitals don’t get overrun with influenza patients. We do not have one for this virus and will not for at least a year and more reasonably 18 months. Our hospitals WILL get overrun and it is going to happen quick if people don’t take this seriously.

I’m getting sick of everyone that isn’t taking this seriously. You’re the ones that will be infecting everyone. Yes, you and I might only get a cough, but your mom, grandma, neighbor, friend, or coworker may not be so lucky. Do we need to run out and clear out stores, of course not. But take a second and think of more than just yourself here.

4hrs of work for me so far this week. Got a couple small jobs tomorrow. Have a feeling thats going to be the new normal for a while. 75% loss in income for the time being. Been there before and will get through it again. Its not going to be easy by any means. Atleast one does not die from being broke.

mahtofire14 wrote:

Our hospitals WILL get overrun and it is going to happen quick if people don’t take this seriously.

Ok this is probably a dumb question. Who’s going to over run the hospitals? I assume its the over 60 year old population? What makes them go to the hospital? Can’t breath? or?

I’m just asking because people get sick all the time. There are people that run to the hospital first thing and then there are people who (right or wrong) just tough it out.

Do we know that this virus makes the infected “have to” go to the hospital? These are all just questions. If you have no facts and just opinions please don’t bother answering. Thanks!

Joe Scegura wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
Our hospitals WILL get overrun and it is going to happen quick if people don’t take this seriously.

Ok this is probably a dumb question. Who’s going to over run the hospitals? I assume its the over 60 year old population? What makes them go to the hospital? Can’t breath? or?

I’m just asking because people get sick all the time. There are people that run to the hospital first thing and then there are people who (right or wrong) just tough it out.

Do we know that this virus makes the infected “have to” go to the hospital? These are all just questions. If you have no facts and just opinions please don’t bother answering. Thanks!

on one of these endless threads somebody posted a stat that said 20% of infected people require hospital care.

Joe Scegura wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
Our hospitals WILL get overrun and it is going to happen quick if people don’t take this seriously.

Ok this is probably a dumb question. Who’s going to over run the hospitals? I assume its the over 60 year old population? What makes them go to the hospital? Can’t breath? or?

I’m just asking because people get sick all the time. There are people that run to the hospital first thing and then there are people who (right or wrong) just tough it out.

Do we know that this virus makes the infected “have to” go to the hospital? These are all just questions. If you have no facts and just opinions please don’t bother answering. Thanks!

The “infected” don’t necessarily have to be hospitalized. The ones that do are the more serious cases that numbers and studies have shown require ventilator and ICU beds. The group of people that are most susceptible to this virus and these results are ages 60 and up. That’s a HUGE number of people in our society. Take into consideration that almost all hospitals across the nation are running at full capacity even without coronavirus patients. I’m talking ICU’s, cardiology, oncology, general medical floors. All full before this even started. Now introduce the virus and all the new influx of patients and that the very real potential of needing ICU care. What are we going to do, push the patients that are already in the ICU and medical floors out on the street? What if you or someone you know has a heart attack or get’s in a serious car accident? You think there is going to be room for them?

We don’t have enough vents, we don’t have enough beds, we don’t have the staff to care for these people when it (if it) seriously takes off. That’s what we are trying to prevent. That’s why the spread of this is so serious and that’s why we have to take it serious. If it gets past the tipping point it’s going to get really ugly really fast for the older population.

This isn’t about you or I. It’s about them. We are damn lucky that for some reason this virus doesn’t pray on children like most of them usually do. That’s the only good I see from this.

Thanks for the info above.

mahtofire14 wrote:

This isn’t about you or I.

Ya I got that. I think most do at this point.