How Many are – Going out to a restaurant to eat this week?

With most restaurants allowed to open back up for inside eating today ( Believe at 50% capacity ) how many of you are going to get out for a meal someplace? My wife and child left for a trip to visit her brother in Chicago so its just me for 10 days. I’m sure I’ll probably get out to a few restaurants while they are gone. I’m going to do my share to try and help these small business’s out the best I can. The least I can do is to use some of the 2900 of stimulus money for what its intended to be used for. For more than a few restaurants I’m sure this is a little to late – But hopefully I and others can do what they can to help those who are still in business.

We’ve been ordering delivery or curb side from our favorite local spots once or twice a week (which is slightly more than normal) the whole time, and I’ll be sitting down inside or on a patio Friday.

I’ve ate out a few times in northern Wisco the last few weeks. But I am in no hurry to visit a restaurant in the cities. I do miss eating out with my wife but the last few months have reaffirmed that its cheaper and better to eat at home. Eventually we’ll get out around here.

I know four people up here who are in the bar/restaurant business and one with a large campground facility attached. We have been rotating between the four of them getting take out as much as possible and we have been leaving double tips as well. Unless you are a independent owner in this line of business you have no idea how these folks have been hurt financially.

I’m leaving for the lake here shortly and won’t get back home until next week sometime so I won’t be able to patronize them until then but you can bet I will!

Probably holding off. Tried to get a patio table couple days ago. No go. 2 hour wait. What I’m hearing is most places can’t get staff to return to work. Making more money on unemployment than coming back to work. Can’t blame them.

-J.

Las Margaritas Rancheros Burrito tomorrow, boss buying.

We haven’t seen the inside of a restaurant in 5 years so not us. We do plenty of curbside and take out and rather eat at home.

I do miss it sometimes but a lot less since this BS.

Jon Jordan wrote:

Probably holding off. Tried to get a patio table couple days ago. No go. 2 hour wait. What I’m hearing is most places can’t get staff to return to work. Making more money on unemployment than coming back to work. Can’t blame them.

-J.

The employer needs to contact unemployment and inform them he has offered the employee their position back but they refuse and prefer to draw unemployment. Their benefits will stop and then when they want their job back they need to be told their position has been filled.

Ice Cap wrote:

The employer needs to contact unemployment and inform them he has offered the employee their position back but they refuse and prefer to draw unemployment. Their benefits will stop and then when they want their job back they need to be told their position has been filled.

The state needs to allow the employer to open up fully. Why would a server come back to max 50% customers and earn 50% less? Not their fault if you ask me.

-J.

All this stuff is complex….tough to say with certainty that something should be handled a certain way. Everybody has a different situation so I try to be understanding of that.

Unfortunately, if you “don’t feel safe at work because of Covid-19” you can sit on your ass and collect unemployment…

If it’s a legitimate concern (like if you’re 80 and still working) I get it, but a lot of people will do it regardless.

Sad, but true.

The extension until July 31st for the bonus $600 was a HUGE mistake

Back on topic…..hell yeah we’ll eat out this weekend!

I probably won’t do it for a while. Like others have mentioned, I have been doing delivery or pickup about twice a week since March instead. I can mostly get the same food from my favorite restaurants in this manner, but there are some that isn’t just the same. Obviously a venue like a buffet comes to mind.

The extra $600/week of unemployment is going to expire at the end of July so the people that are turning down their jobs at this time will be looking for them in August. Sure, you might make more on unemployment for another 50 days, but beyond that you are really risking not finding anything. People need to think more long term here. It would be foolish to decline a more long term job for the benefit of only 50 more days in my opinion.

Jon Jordan wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ice Cap wrote:</div>
The employer needs to contact unemployment and inform them he has offered the employee their position back but they refuse and prefer to draw unemployment. Their benefits will stop and then when they want their job back they need to be told their position has been filled.

The state needs to allow the employer to open up fully. Why would a server come back to max 50% customers and earn 50% less? Not their fault if you ask me.

-J.

The worker can still work. Unemployment will compensate benefits according to his or her earnings so they still have income equal to what they were making until the employer can give them the hours to where they no longer need any benefits. They also lose the $600 sugar on top which is where the real rub comes in for people.

Far to many people are taking advantage of the whole unemployment and extra 600.00 thing. I know a few of them. They think its funny that they have figured out a way to work the system – Its really sad. How long can a employee say ” I don’t feel comfortable with going to work with the Covid still out there ” and continue to collect unemployment + 600.00. I feel like if a employee offers a employee to return to their job and they say no – Then their unemployment should be turned of or at the least the employer is free to fill that position. All we need is another part of the population who thinks its better to not work and still collect good money than to go to work. I just think there should be a limit on the whole unemployment thing – There is just no telling how long this Covid thing is going to be around.

It is not that easy for all restaurants especially those in the metro area. I’m sure most bars/restaurants outside the metro will open and honestly most will not adhere to the restrictions. Don’t blame them. Many in the metro are still not opening. So call ahead and don’t assume your favorite spot is open. I work in the industry on the other side of the fence and many are not prepared to open today inside as they have been prepping patio seating instead. Another issue is opening and then having to close because an employee got Covid and it gets out to the public like what happened at several places in Minneapolis like Revival who now have to deal with the perception that they are not doing everything possible to not keep folks safe. The last thing you want is an employee or a patron to get Covid an have it be in the paper that you are closing due to someone having Covid even it was not very likely they actually got it at the restaurant/bar.

fishthumper wrote:

How long can a employee say ” I don’t feel comfortable with going to work with the Covid still out there ” and continue to collect unemployment + 600.00.

50 more days. At the end of July, that extra $600 expires. And if you ask me, if they rejected coming back to their job before the end of July, and they ask for it back in August, they should not get it back.

Ubering up to Jaros later tonight, and gonna have myself way too many greenies.

Deuces wrote:

Ubering up to Jaros later tonight, and gonna have myself way too many greenies.

Mr Beads,
i knew you like to drink lol. When i live in mpls, we would go to Jaros once and a while, Cant remenber what in a greenie but i drank my share 20 + years ago..

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>fishthumper wrote:</div>
How long can a employee say ” I don’t feel comfortable with going to work with the Covid still out there ” and continue to collect unemployment + 600.00.

50 more days. At the end of July, that extra $600 expires. And if you ask me, if they rejected coming back to their job before the end of July, and they ask for it back in August, they should not get it back.

That’s unless they extend it at the end of July

Absolutely! Around home and up at the cabin this weekend. These businesses need it.

Joe Jarl wrote:

Absolutely! Around home and up at the cabin this weekend. These businesses need it.

Yes they do !!!

fishthumper wrote:

Far to many people are taking advantage of the whole unemployment and extra 600.00 thing. I know a few of them. They think its funny that they have figured out a way to work the system – Its really sad. How long can a employee say ” I don’t feel comfortable with going to work with the Covid still out there ” and continue to collect unemployment + 600.00. I feel like if a employee offers a employee to return to their job and they say no – Then their unemployment should be turned of or at the least the employer is free to fill that position. All we need is another part of the population who thinks its better to not work and still collect good money than to go to work. I just think there should be a limit on the whole unemployment thing – There is just no telling how long this Covid thing is going to be around.

Fishthumper you were talking about taking a government loan that you didn’t need in the small business thread a couple months ago. Pretty hypocritical to talk down anyone else manipulating the system to their advantage imo, here’s the exact exchange:

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greig john wrote:

If you don’t need it, why are you applying?
There is a finite amount of money in the program which is designed to allow small businesses to continue to pay their employees and not have to lay them off.
If you take money out of the system that you don’t need, then you’re taking it directly from someone that could have benefited.

Fishthumper: I never said I didn’t need it. I said IF Possible I would not use it until I know for sure the loans will be erased at the end like the program states. I can use other resources to cover payroll and expenses for 2 1/2 months if necessary. Doesn’t mean I don’t need it or to payoff or replace other funds used to cover expenses and wages.

So am I to assume you are going to send back any stimulus check that you receive???”

Billy J wrote:

Cant remenber what in a greenie but i drank my share 20 + years ago.

90% cheap vodka (used to be white eagle but recently changed)

5% something

5% green other something

5% magic

FWIW, still cash only!

BigWerm wrote:

Fishthumper you were talking about taking a government loan that you didn’t need in the small business thread a couple months ago. Pretty hypocritical to talk down anyone else manipulating the system to their advantage imo, here’s the exact exchange:

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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>greig john wrote:</div>
If you don’t need it, why are you applying?
There is a finite amount of money in the program which is designed to allow small businesses to continue to pay their employees and not have to lay them off.
If you take money out of the system that you don’t need, then you’re taking it directly from someone that could have benefited.

Fishthumper: I never said I didn’t need it. I said IF Possible I would not use it until I know for sure the loans will be erased at the end like the program states. I can use other resources to cover payroll and expenses for 2 1/2 months if necessary. Doesn’t mean I don’t need it or to payoff or replace other funds used to cover expenses and wages.

So am I to assume you are going to send back any stimulus check that you receive???”

Once again like I responded prior – I never said I didn’t need it. As far as needing any of it – Does anyone need the PPP, extra 600.00 for unemployment, The 1200 stimulus check. I don’t think any of it is a need. I doubt anyone’s life would be over without any of it. If you are someone who’s collecting the 600.00 extra of unemployement when you could return to work and are offended by my comment – Then I’m sorry. In the end we all have to look at ourselves in the mirror at the end of each day – Some just care a lot less about what they see there than others do.

fishthumper wrote:

As far as needing any of it – Does anyone need the PPP, extra 600.00 for unemployment, The 1200 stimulus check. I don’t think any of it is a need. I doubt anyone’s life would be over without any of it.

i don’t have a dog in the fight but this struck me as preposterous. how in the world can you pretend to estimate, and make assumptions about, every single individual families financial needs? If the foundation of your resentment is based on being able to correctly assume knowledge about ever bodies financial situation than id say you have made a pretty large and certainly unfounded assumption.

I don’t see my family eating inside a restaurant soon but perhaps patio seating. Right or wrong, we have been easing our stance on a lot of the precautions lately – mainly with allowing the kids to see friends in a limited capacity and spending time with close family. When we do eat our we have been supporting mainly local small businesses as much as possible and we have been tipping as much as 30%

crappie55369 wrote:

i don’t have a dog in the fight but this struck me as preposterous. how in the world can you pretend to estimate, and make assumptions about, every single individual families financial needs? If the foundation of your resentment is based on being able to correctly assume knowledge about ever bodies financial situation than id say you have made a pretty large and certainly unfounded assumption.

I don’t believe I made any assumptions about anyone’s financial needs. Maybe you and I have a different view of NEEDS. I was simply stating that I believe there are many taking advantage of the Unemployment situation due to whole covid situation – If you don’t believe so, Then you are entitled to you opinion. You do tend to say ” I don’t have a dog in the fight often – But then throw your dog into the fight ”

fishthumper wrote:

I don’t believe I made any assumptions about anyone’s financial needs. Maybe you and I have a different view of NEEDS. I was simply stating that I believe there are many taking advantage of the Unemployment situation due to whole covid situation

fishthumper wrote:

Does anyone need the PPP, extra 600.00 for unemployment, The 1200 stimulus check. I don’t think any of it is a need.

The second quote is literally an assumption of someone else’s financial situation. I’ve been lucky enough to work in the same industry as you, and have worked through this whole thing with no gov’t assistance. I thought it was poor form for you to apply for PPP that other people absolutely needed, when I highly doubt anyone in our industry needed it, especially immediately, but I didn’t comment as I don’t know your situation. However, when you want to then blast people utilizing unemployment, I’m going to call you out. Maybe you need to look in the mirror a little longer bud.

OK bigwerm – I guess there is no one taking advantage of the unemployment situation. I’m glad you were able to work through the situation with no Gov’t assistance. I do know of a lot of people in our industry who keep all of their employee’s working during this time, they would have probably had to have laid them off or let them go without the PPP loan. I would say that you saying you highly doubt anyone in our industry needed the PPP loan, would be you now making assumptions about other peoples financial needs. I’ll leave this at that. Like I stated in the original post – I think I’ll go out for dinner tonight and help a local business out.

Deuces wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Billy J wrote:</div>
Cant remenber what in a greenie but i drank my share 20 + years ago.

90% cheap vodka (used to be white eagle but recently changed)

5% something

5% green other something

5% magic

FWIW, still cash only!

How many Greenies can my extra $600 in stimulus buy me? I kid, I kid.

I’d go have a steak at Erte first but that’s just me.

this thread just reminded me of the Ruben sandwich at Stanleys in NE. Anyone ever have one? Oh my lord!!! delicious! and they have the best fries. May have to pay them a visit soon