How easy to be scammed using Venmo or paypal

  • fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12131
    #2295864

    I have a item for sale on Facebook market place. I’ve had a few offers from people out of the state who are interested. They say they are willing to pay by Venmo or paypal and send a prepaid shipping label. I have been saying sorry only local pickup. I really want the item gone and the out of state offers seem like all I’m getting. Its not a real high value deal so I’m thinking about just going ahead with one of the offers. I just don’t see a way you can get scammed if you receive the money into a paypal account and all I have to do is stick a pre-paid label on the box and mail it. Am I missing something to worry about.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12131
    #2295874

    Well I knew there must be a reason why it sounded to good. The link you sent only shows the scam on the shipping label side. If i use my own shipper and add the cost into the the Venmo payment can the payment somehow still get reversed after its been credited to my bank account ?

    Reef W
    Posts: 2850
    #2295875

    I think in general neither are very safe if you don’t trust the buyer. All of the protections are for the buyer. Even if you have proof of delivery they can just say it’s not as described and file a claim.

    dirtywater
    Posts: 1633
    #2295878

    If you suggest an alternate method that protects you, that will be the end of the conversation. The “person” you’re talking to isn’t who they say they are and they have no interest in your item, only in stealing from you.

    If no one locally is interested in your item at the posted price, it’s highly unlikely that someone from another state would be. There are exceptions on certain niche items but in general if you’re not selling it, it’s either overpriced or there is no demand.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12131
    #2295882

    but in general if you’re not selling it, it’s either overpriced or there is no demand

    In my case I think a lack of demand ( office phone set of 5 phone’s ) That is why I was thinking a wider purchase base may have been the reason for the interest. I’ll just stick to the local purchase only. If it doesn’t sell I’ll probably just donate the item.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #2295887

    at least get them to send you an extra $200 for your troubles…

    Deuces
    Posts: 5272
    #2295888

    Typing this as a PSA.

    Been looking for a car for the teen, $3-6k range, have a cousin up nort very active on FB, complete gear head but don’t see him a lot during the year. He posts a small suv and utility trailer for sale on FB, sweet price for the suv but not stupid cheap, friends husband died, downsizing vehicles. PM him to ask a couple questions, responds, asks for a deposit to hold until the weekend. Understandable, alot of talkers out there and doesn’t want to burn a friend who may need the cash. I’m busy AF as work so going thru this seems all legit, send the cashapp to his buds for $500, gets rejected right away. He PMs right away asking whats up, takes me a lil bit bc work is busy, but that’s when his PMs got a bit off, and suspicious.

    Sum things up they hacked his FB, posted a fake ad, used his messenger to facilitate conversations and luckily cashapp stopped it. Got my refund in 48hrs.

    Fwiw, just this week sold a pair of old bike pedals to some dude in fon du lac, he mailed cash and I mailed pedals, so sometimes it works too lol

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20834
    #2295889

    I buy and sell stuff on archery talk all the time. And there has been a big increase in venmo / paypal scams and fake posters. Same with fb market place.

    acarroline
    Posts: 621
    #2295891

    Sounds a bit off. Ask for a phone number and call the person, that usually helps separate ouot the scammers, not always. I use Venmo among friends and some local small dollar marketplace items. I just sold some boat bumper ties to a guy in Canada using Paypal…never again. Talked to the guy on the phone and he was great, but Paypal is a mess. Ending up having to ask for a check mailed to me which will take 5-10 days just to get the money out somehow. Done with that app!

    bigcrappie
    Blaine
    Posts: 4376
    #2295895

    If your selling on FB click on offer shipping when you create the ad. You enter the weight of the item with packaging and FB will send you a shipping label when the item sells. The buyer pays through FB and you are safe. I sell 100’s of items and this the only way unless your meeting up local with cash.

    KPE
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 1721
    #2295909

    I don’t have Venmo but I’ve used my wife’s venmo to complete transactions. It helps to have an eye for scammers; most of them don’t speak or write English well.

    I recently sold some truck parts; I spoke at length with the buyer, he venmo’d my wife, once we had the money in our actual possession (ie, out of Venmo and into bank account), I shipped his parts. he agreed to that, and I could tell just speaking with him he wasn’t into scams.

    I’m working with someone right now to buy something and have him ship to me. We’re going to reach a deal, but like I said most important thing is actually speaking to these people. It might be a generational thing but the scammers are so blatantly obvious when I see them that I don’t worry too much I just ignore those.

    KPE
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 1721
    #2295911

    Example: Anyone asking for a “code” or some such nonsense is a scammer; anyone who won’t talk to you 1:1 is likely a scammer; anyone asking for additional personal information that is irrelevant to the transaction is a scammer. And so on

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8395
    #2295913

    I just assume everyone and everything related to a financial transaction is a scam until proven otherwise. It’s a pretty foolproof way to not get scammed.

    Riverrat
    Posts: 1596
    #2295943

    After many futile attempts at Facebook Marketplace in the last 5 years I can safely say that not only is KPE right he missed, anybody buying anything off Marketplace is probably a scammer. I actually made note cards and hung them on store community boards last time I had stuff for sale.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12131
    #2295944

    After many futile attempts at Facebook Marketplace in the last 5 years I can safely say that not only is KPE right he missed, anybody buying anything off Marketplace is probably a scammer. I actually made note cards and hung them on store community boards last time I had stuff for sale.

    Both my wife and myself have made some excellent purchases off of facebook market place. I’ve also had decent success selling a few things locally on there. Prefer it over Craigslist anyday. Not sure anyone even sells things on Craigslist any more.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #2295962

    the old, my dads going into assisted living and we need to sell his $25,000 Kubota Tractor for $1200… is a scam. They hack a friend of yours account and it looks legit. I messed with this one for half a afternoon… on the cheapest boat you ever seen… right before I was sending my funds I asked her… Where & How did we meet ? She got mad and yelled at me to quit wasting her time !!!

    Riverrat
    Posts: 1596
    #2295969

    I always got the “can I pay you with venmo and have my brother pick it up”. I had the same message like 10 times on a canoe once and it was the exact same wording each time.

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 12127
    #2295992

    there’s a reason this old phart dont by crap on line or through any of those sites nor am i willing to pay through those forms of payment options!!!! whistling

    if i cant see it, feel it…..i dont need it that bad!!!!! the first post in the classified section was put there after i had issues with a feller wanting to sell me 30-06 shells!!!!!!!

    believe the title is before you buy…..please!

    isu22andy
    Posts: 1809
    #2296002

    I’ve bought probably 20 things off marketplace and forums over the years and payed with PayPal with zero issues . You absolutely have to use goods and service when you pay – friends and family doesn’t protect you .

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