Home made dog food

  • biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1881773

    Sorry I read that wrong.

    Although it’s no higher risk than handling raw meat you’re going to cook. I still disagree with that statement.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1884426

    So I’ve just been too busy to go get other people’s freezer burned meat. In the short term I’ve resorted to buying pre-ground raw meat dog food from a local pet supply store. Canine Crossing in Andover is a pretty awesome place. The owner there is very knowledgeable and accommodating. Highly recommended for anyone in the area. The price for me comes out to about $3 a day so I’m a little over what I wanted to spend.

    A guy at work recommended Raw Delivery MN. This is premixed with 80% meat / 10% organ / 10% bone so it’s a full compliment for a little over $2 per day. I pick up my order on Friday for about 5 weeks worth of food for about $70. They have multiple pickup locations around the metro. Looking forward to it.

    After a couple weeks now Brooke is definitely looking better. She’s back to licking her chops at our bedside trying to wake us up to feed her in the morning. Definitely a good sign.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1886559

    Picked up my first order from raw delivery last Friday. I forgot to take a pic but it is basically 5# tubes of ground meat. All premixed with bone and organ meat. Brooke loves it so far.

    I let it thaw slightly and cut it into 1/8th slices and feed her 1/8 in the morning and 1/8 in the evening.

    A tube lasts 4 days at about $12. That equals around $90 a month. I was spending about $70 a month with Fromm kibble.

    I’m feeding her about 1.25# per day. A little more than recommended because she got pretty skinny when she wasn’t eating. Trying to get her weight up a bit.

    moustachesteve
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 540
    #1886668

    I’ll be interested to hear how you and your pup like the raw delivery after a few weeks/months. Might switch our dog over but he’s a dane and eats a ridiculous amount, so maybe too expensive. Still, they don’t live forever so it’s good to spoil them

    pass0047
    Pool4
    Posts: 492
    #1886809

    Do what you want but make informed decisions.
    CDC, FDA, and American veterinary medical association all do not recommend feeding raw diets for public health concerns.

    Dogs who are old, not healthy(not eating for some reason are more prone to salmonella and other pathogens)

    One study (Lauten et al 2005) determined nearly 70% of home-prepared diets were deficient or unbalanced in key nutrients. Certain essential minerals, especially calcium, zinc and choline, were often below NRC recommendations. In other recipes, the diets were unbalanced (i.e. contained all essential nutrients but one or more nutrients were included in disproportionate amounts within the recipe).

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1887048

    One study (Lauten et al 2005) determined nearly 70% of home-prepared diets were deficient or unbalanced in key nutrients. Certain essential minerals, especially calcium, zinc and choline, were often below NRC recommendations. In other recipes, the diets were unbalanced (i.e. contained all essential nutrients but one or more nutrients were included in disproportionate amounts within the recipe).

    Any chance you could post a link to that study? I tried searching for it but only got a couple references to the study.

    pass0047
    Pool4
    Posts: 492
    #1887119

    Computer Analysis of Nutrient Sufficiency of Published Home-Cooked Diets For Dogs and Cats
    ACVIM 2005
    S.D. Lauten; T.M. Smith; C.A. Kirk; J.W. Bartges; A.M. Adams
    Department of Small Animal Clinical Sciences, University of Tennessee, College of Veterinary Medicine, Knoxville, TN

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3774
    #1888116

    My 12 1/2 year old dog just recently went through damn near liver failure and pancreatitis. I thought for sure we were going to have to put her down, I mean she barely moved and would, at most, eat a cracker per day. Everything in me thought she was done for. Then we started feeding her just a little bit of boiled chicken and other foods. I was working nights for a week and the wife would text me saying she had eaten chicken, Cheerios, cheese, and crackers. So I’ve been following this thread for a little while. Hoping I can gain something out of it and maybe help another.

    Mind you, we’re to the point where our main objective is that, if she’s still alive and moving ok, we just want her to be able to eat and be full. At this point, at this age, with all she’s been through, I don’t know how much longer she’ll be around, so most rules have kind of gone out the window. She won’t eat really any form of dog food, so I try and keep it to healthy human food.

    She’s mainly been getting bread mixed with some form of boiled chicken, boiled hamburger, and this morning she ate a few scrambled eggs. It’s working fairly well for me. Her appetite is getting much better and she’s got more energy now. If she lived another 6 weeks or 6 months or longer, it wouldn’t surprise me either way. I’m past the point of forcing pills she doesn’t want or trying miserable food on her, she’s going to be comfortable for whatever the rest of her life is, and enjoy her food.

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1450
    #1888126

    Similar to not wanting to know how the sausage is made, knowing how dog food is made concerns me. There is a Fromm (premium food mentioned by biggill) factory near my in-laws home in Mequon WI adjacent to a county golf course. External conditions are appalling, the place is a dump. I am convinced that they run out to the golf course, grab geese off the fairway and butcher them in the parking lot before throwing the geese in the hopper. Not a bad use for the sky rats in the area but not palatable either.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1888134

    Similar to not wanting to know how the sausage is made, knowing how dog food is made concerns me. There is a Fromm (premium food mentioned by biggill) factory near my in-laws home in Mequon WI adjacent to a county golf course. External conditions are appalling, the place is a dump. I am convinced that they run out to the golf course, grab geese off the fairway and butcher them in the parking lot before throwing the geese in the hopper. Not a bad use for the sky rats in the area but not palatable either.

    Got to know.

    Anyone want it but a bag of Fromm dog food? I’ve taken about 4 cups out of it.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10386
    #1888452

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brad Dimond wrote:</div>
    Similar to not wanting to know how the sausage is made, knowing how dog food is made concerns me. There is a Fromm (premium food mentioned by biggill) factory near my in-laws home in Mequon WI adjacent to a county golf course. External conditions are appalling, the place is a dump. I am convinced that they run out to the golf course, grab geese off the fairway and butcher them in the parking lot before throwing the geese in the hopper. Not a bad use for the sky rats in the area but not palatable either.

    Got to know.

    Anyone want it but a bag of Fromm dog food? I’ve taken about 4 cups out of it.

    Does it pair well with Corona?
    Actually the Vet just told my wife we need to feed the Dane Oatmeal and chicken.I’m cooking it now and my wife says to me that this will cost a fortune. “No kidding” was my response.
    That’s why I need a bag of dog food so I don’t go hungry. rotflol

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1888454

    Does it pair well with Corona?

    Possibly. Since you can’t afford limes anymore you could slip a couple kibbles in there.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1888455

    I actually just placed my second order with rawdeliveryMn. I didn’t notice before that they offer a 1 hour consultation about raw feeding. I am scheduled for an appointment next Saturday.

    I also found out that if you buy a case quantity (8) of premixed meat, you get a pretty decent discount.

    So far so good, Brooke loves it and continues to look and feel better. Her coat is super shiny and clearly isn’t shedding as much. She’s back to jumping up on our bed which she hasn’t done in a couple months.

    lynne rowe
    Posts: 5
    #2018279

    I am new to this so hope I am doing this right. Lol. My little shorkey recently got cytiais. When it was time to put him back on his regular store bought food he started getting sick again. For the last two weeks I have been making his food and he feels so much better with more energy than I have seen him have in 5 yrs. However, I have a poo question for those experienced in this. My dog is having much better bowel movements but every now and then it has a slimy look. Is this normal? It’s been normal consistency but the slimy has happened a time or two. Any suggestions? Thank for any help.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18605
    #2018280

    Any chance he is eating poop sometimes? Either his own or animals like rabbit or deer? I have a couple of poop eaters. It can cause foul burps, foul gas and irregular poops. Mine got into some deer sh** yesterday and while I haven’t seen their stools since I got hit with a sh** burp that made me want to vomit. Sometimes old freeze dried dog poop (their own) in the winter is attractive to dogs that normally don’t partake.

    lynne rowe
    Posts: 5
    #2018282

    I have seen him do this before but not recently. Altho we have moved near a small patch of woods where we like to walk and deer are thru there every day. Deer squirrel and a ground hog. I catch him.aniffing it but not eating it. He does have gas occasionally but I was thinking that’s the veggies in his food. I am hoping I am feeding him correctly. Been using the suggested supplements. He likes chicken or salmon. Doesn’t seem to care much for beef, crazy as that is.

    BoatsHateMe
    Between Pool 2 and Pool 4
    Posts: 782
    #2018313

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Matt Wodziak wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
    And raw pet food has a very high risk for pathogens like salmonella. Salmonella may not be an issue for a healthy dog, but if handled improperly, you might get yourself sick in the process.

    This is false. Dogs are not at a high risk to become ill from salmonella.

    I didn’t say they were at high risk to become ill from salmonella. I said the handler of the raw pet food could get it (that would be you).

    Rediculous. You don’t handle meat for yourself or your family? You take the same precautions with the dog food as your own.

    My daughters dog was diabetic. We got our ground raw chicken from Woody’s pet food deli for $10-$12 for 5 lbs. they have all different kinds of meat there, some fortified with nutrients. Her dog was smaller (12 lbs) and we would mix a 1/2 cup of chicken with 1/2 cup of Sojos oat food mixture and some water and that would be 2 meals for the day. We never got sick either roll

    Sojo’s Original Ready-To-Mix Dog Food 2.5 pounds.

    My GSD stopped eating her kibble a couple of days ago. After 2 days I took her in to the vet. She tested positive for lymes. Had to have picked it up running around in the woods on Wednesday when it was warm. Vet said as soon as it gets above 20 degrees and stays warmer for a few days you need to be on top of the tick repellent and heart guard etc. I’ve had to feed her hamburger and rice for the past few days. The best part is I can snack on it myself while I’m cooking that up waytogo

    Don Mang
    Posts: 16
    #2018562

    I cook weekly for my Husty/Pit mix. 1bl 80/20 ground beef, 4 boneless chicken breast (air fryer), brown rice, carrots, hand full of fresh string beans, and a nice size head of broccoli. Feeds him for 7 days I do add kibble. Occasionally he gets fish, heard too much fish isn’t good.

    lynne rowe
    Posts: 5
    #2018578

    I have been doing that. Bought a lot of salmon just before I read about the fish thing. Prepared it and stuck it in the freezer in individual servings. I’ll do one a week. I don’t do kibble at all now. I use to supplements suggested by vet.

    lynne rowe
    Posts: 5
    #2018581

    I totally agree Paul. And I have been talking to so many people saying yeah my dog has had stomach trouble too. My first thot was store bought dog food. And then stress. I have started playing ‘white noise music’ at night. Really seems to be helping to calms my dogs nerves. Not too bad for mine either. Lol

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17264
    #2018583

    Rediculous. You don’t handle meat for yourself or your family? You take the same precautions with the dog food as your own.

    Its not ridiculous. A pet food that has salmonella, e-coli, or other harmful pathogen in it is in fact an adulterated product as defined under the federal Food, Drug, & Cosmetic Act.

    lynne rowe
    Posts: 5
    #2018596

    Hi Suzuki- you were talking about deer poo and such. I read that even sniffing poo, bird poo bad, it can cause issues like ingesting it. And with this constant damp weather we have had I think we are dealing with more than normal issues with ourselves as well as our pets. I have added a little pumpkin and probiotics. Seems to be helping. We need some dry weather and maybe with 3 months of sunshine the ground may dry up. Lol. God bless us all thru these trying times.

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