I usually start with someplace with water in it sorry my bad, couldn’t resist a freebie. Last week when I was on the lake, I looked for structure in 15′-25’fow. Leadcore w/#5 Shadraps was a starter. Most of the fish were laying on the bottom hiding behind anything that was irregular. When I go back to the river I’ll have to start all over. The guys seem to be doing the flotilla thing in front of Beanies near Hudson. jerr