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  • suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18602
    #1522181

    http://news.yahoo.com/major-survey-shows-gun-ownership-132558989.html

    Gun ownership declining? How can that be with records gun sales? I call bullshit. I think the anti’s make a statement like this just to get the ball rolling and to support a much later statement saying not enough people have guns to warrant their legality.
    I may be off but I just dont trust ANYTHING that is anti firearm.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1522197

    I agree Mike. Manufactured facts

    SLACK
    HASTINGS, MN
    Posts: 711
    #1522211

    if someone called you doing a survey and asked if you owned a gun what would you say.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18602
    #1522225

    if someone called you doing a survey and asked if you owned a gun what would you say.

    Bingo. Never thought of that! Good call.

    Huntindave
    Shell Rock Iowa
    Posts: 3088
    #1522255

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>SLACK wrote:</div>
    if someone called you doing a survey and asked if you owned a gun what would you say.

    Bingo. Never thought of that! Good call.

    And if you are a criminal,,,, what are you going to say?

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11589
    #1522259

    Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

    In addition to the issue of weather or not respondents are telling the truth, there is a bias in terms HOW you count.

    The overall number of individual gun owners is up. But if you count them in terms of “households”, it’s down.

    Look at it this way. In the 1960s, about 78% of American households reported owning a car. That number is virtually unchanged today.

    But there are MILLIONS more cars on the road. Why? Because households own 2, 3, and 4 cars now instead of just one.

    Lies, damned lines, statistics.

    Grouse

    Youbetcha
    Anoka County
    Posts: 2827
    #1522317

    I agree it’s for sure a bunch of lies and also what slack said about saying no to a random survey call. They always have to find some way to try and make their side seem right whistling

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10380
    #1522323

    if someone called you doing a survey and asked if you owned a gun what would you say.

    Why don’t you come on over and find out!

    Gregg Pfeifer
    Fort Atkinson, WI
    Posts: 889
    #1522423

    Garbage in, garbage out. Who needs a damn survey when all you need to do is check gun sale records. I’d also bet the stats show more crimes and accidents involving guns. I don’t recall stories of toddlers pulling mommy’s hand gun out of her bag in a shopping cart years ago.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #1522431

    Agree – BS. Just like the recent story about Minn permit to carry numbers. Story implied permit numbers are down. Not true. Right now there are more permit holders than ever before. The only number that was down were new applications. Of course new apps will be down after everyone who wants a permit has one – DUH!!!

    -J.

    youngfry
    Northeast Iowa
    Posts: 629
    #1522633

    Its called rhetoric. Doesn’t mean its false… just presented in a way that is intended to persuade. Both sides of every argument do this constantly to sway people to their side.

    crossin_eyes
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 1379
    #1523163

    Below is today’s Government Relations Update from the NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation)

    Gun Ownership Declining? Don’t Believe It
    While an Associated Press story this week selectively cited the latest General Social Survey (GSS) finding that gun ownership has declined in recent years, several other sources show Americans are embracing gun ownership. As NSSF President Steve Sanetti points out in a blog post reprinted by the Daily Caller, the GSS is in reality counting the number of individuals willing to disclose to a stranger at their front door how many firearms they own.

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