Help from those with Diabetes

At my most recent Annual check up, My blood test revealed that I have Diabetes. My Average Glucose was 140 and My A1C was 6.5 which puts me .1 above Pre-Diabetic and into the Diabetic range. My Dr. now has me on 500MG of Metformin. I know a better diet and more exercise is key to lowering my #’s or at least helping to keep them where they are. I’ve got a good start by losing about 14 Lbs. in the first 2 weeks. I’ve also started eating much better by limiting my sugars to between 20-30 grams a day, Watching the amount of Carb’s I’m eating, and eating much more veggies. I need help in what are foods I should mostly avoid and what are some snacks that are not bad for me. I seem to get mixed info. when I research info. on Fruits and Diabetic diets. I would rather avoid a appointment with a dietician and try and figure out a healthy diet by myself if possible. It will be nice to hear and learn from others here who have Diabetes.

My wife was also recently diagnosed with diabetes. The Dr prescribed her Ozempic but because all the wealthy celebrities use it for weight loss it was denied for several weeks. It was now finally approved.
I think nuts are very good for you if you are diabetic but fruits are generally very high in sugars granted its probably good sugars so I dont know if I would eat a lot of fruit.

You might consider looking into a prescription. There’s a couple out there that are extremely effective at lowering your A1C, and they will help you lose weight in the process.

Ozempic and Mounjaro are both approved for type 1 diabetes. They are both very expensive but some health insurance covers them. Worth looking into if yours does.

Remember, carbs are required for life. Your central nervous system and red blood cells specifically only live off of glucose.

What you need to focus on is glycemic index, not carbs. This is basically how your body reacts to something and how much insulin it requires to digest. They gave a bunch of people pure glucose, then tested every known food against it giving is a score from 0-100. It worked great until they got to white wonder bread…it tested higher than pure glucose! There is no predicting where something is on the chart. Raw potato is great, cooked is terrible. Look at the chart and base your diet off of that. Avoid the high fructose corn syrup, it’s the worst offender of them all and found in everything. Nutrigrain bars, sound healthy, have HFCS in them. The benefits of fruit are many and I wouldn’t cut them out of your diet. Sweets, pop, candy are your culprits. Talk to your doctor though, they’ll have good info for you.

CaptainMusky wrote:

The Dr prescribed her Ozempic but because all the wealthy celebrities use it for weight loss it was denied for several weeks. It was now finally approved.

Ozempic is not approved anymore just for weight loss. You must have type 1 diabetes to have it prescribed now.

Wegovy is a similar version that is approved for weight loss if you don’t have diabetes. Many of these are in high demand and supply is short though.

gimruis wrote:

Ozempic is not approved anymore just for weight loss. You must have type 1 diabetes to have it prescribed now.

They are wealthy and dont care about getting it covered under insurance, but since they are using it so heavily insurance likes to deny claims thinking people are using it for weight loss even though my wife clearly had the results showing she was now diabetic.

Good to hear your wife was able to get it prescribed and covered. These new diabetes/weight loss drugs are very effective. And I think more health insurance companies will be covering them in the future too.

I personally think the future of weight loss in this country is with these drugs in OTC pill form. You will be able to buy them off the shelf in various strengths and you will lose weight – as much as you want. They make you think you’re full and greatly curb people’s hunger, especially those that like to snack on unhealthy foods.

Yeah, she has had a rough couple years since she broke her ankle and was laid up for several months and couldnt do anything and hence gained some weight. So she is hoping this will also help with that too. IDK how well the insurance is covering it, but she has her insurance and mine so it should lesson the blow for sure. Otherwise its like $1200 or something like that.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Otherwise its like $1200 or something like that.

Ya that sounds right. For one month. Absurd costs right now if your health insurance won’t cover it.

The other one that is stupid irritating cost wise is an epipen. Those are life saving things and my mom couldnt afford getting them since she was on medicare. We gave her some on our kids to have around. My insurance paid for all of it.

From what I understand, I am a Type 1 diabetic so I think the Ozempic thing is out for me.

watch the carbs!!!pasta was a huge one for me!! no pills, yet anyway… over 2 years now…

Alex Fox wrote:

Remember, carbs are required for life. Your central nervous system and red blood cells specifically only live off of glucose.

Yep Carbs are needed. But any Carbs not converted for energy use is converted to Sugars and stored that way in your body from what I’m being told. So the key is to try and limit your carbs to only what you body needs and uses for energy purpose. Many people because of extreme activity need a ton of Carbs. Other who have way less activity need way less but are often consuming way more than their body needs and the excess add to the sugar levels as well as to weight gain. The key is to find a correct balance of the amounts needed. My Dr. said as my exercise and activity level increases I need to adjust my Carbs up. But he said probably 75% of society consume way more Carbs than their bodies can use.

fishthumper wrote:

From what I understand, I am a Type 1 diabetic so I think the Ozempic thing is out for me.

If you are a type 1 diabetic you would need to take insulin injections because your pancreas no longer creates it. I am pretty sure you are type 2.

Mike Schulz wrote:

watch the carbs!!!pasta was a huge one for me!! no pills, yet anyway… over 2 years now…

My Dr. said if it was just the slightly high A1C he would skip the meds and give me a chance to correct with diet and exercise, But since I’m also on High BP meds he said it makes the issue worse and would prefer to start the meds right away

I’m down 30lbs in the last 3 months mainly from eating low carb and just a bit of intermittent fasting. There’s a lot of great ways to treat diabetes so I’m not saying this would work for you but it’s worth looking into. One of the best books I’ve read on the subject is The Obesity Code by Dr. Jason Fung. Its main focus is intermittent fasting, but I found his explanation of how the body handles sugars, carbs, insulin, etc. to be very thorough and convincing. It might be a book worth looking at or checking out from the library as another tool in your arsenal.

Good luck!

There’s a free app out there called Carb Manager that can help track your carbs. I was on a clean low carb lifestyle for about a year using it. The downside is that you have to weigh your portions to have accurate numbers. If nothing else, it will teach you where your carbs are coming from.

fishthumper wrote:

I’ve got a good start by losing about 14 Lbs. in the first 2 weeks.

Good for you man. We’ve all seen so many people fluctuate with weight and body composition in our lives, and we’ve probably all seen folks that have shown some weight loss but not sustain it. You’ve no doubt worked hard to shed that weight already, stay focused and don’t turn back on your hard work.

fishthumper wrote:

From what I understand, I am a Type 1 diabetic so I think the Ozempic thing is out for me.

You are Type 2 diabetic. I eat lots of nuts and usually get in 10 to 12000 steps a day. I tend to eat a lot more meat and fewer things like chips and baked potatoes. Just watch your carbs and you will be just fine. It runs in my family so me and my 3 brothers all have Type 2. I take a 1000MG of Metformin twice a day and 2mg of Glimepiride once a day with my evening meal. My last A1C went down and the doc was very happy. He says don’t worry if it get worse there are plenty of products out there that will work and avoid having to jab yourself.

gimruis wrote:

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From what I understand, I am a Type 1 diabetic so I think the Ozempic thing is out for me.

If you are a type 1 diabetic you would need to take insulin injections because your pancreas no longer creates it. I am pretty sure you are type 2.

see that is how confused I am. I was never told if I was type 1 or type 2. Doing research I thought it said it was type 2 that had to take Insulin

picklerick wrote:

There’s a free app out there called Carb Manager that can help track your carbs. I was on a clean low carb lifestyle for about a year using it. The downside is that you have to weigh your portions to have accurate numbers. If nothing else, it will teach you where your carbs are coming from.

I have that on my phone. I’ve used it in the past and am using it again. I wish it also tracked sugars. I just use the note field to keep track of those

It’s been a couple years since I used it but doing low carb (clean keto) basically means eat nothing that has sugar added. The only sugar substitutes I’d use were Splenda or monk fruit sweetener. Skipping beer, potatoes, bread, pasta and starchy veg like corn, beans, peas was harder than dropping sweets and most fruit. I lost #80 in ten months, but gained a lot back when anxiety and depression took away my motivation after my dad passed away.

Thoughts on these items:

Eggs – Been eating 2-3 bard boiled every day
Cheese / Cheese sticks – Believe good
Jerky and beef sticks – Believe good
Yogurt – The type low in sugars and low in Carb’s

I’d look into fasting, carnivore diet, Dr. Huberman and Dr. Attia for more info online. The last thing I’d want is to keep adding pills to your daily list, until it’s absolutely necessary. Everything has tradeoffs/side affects.

Dan wrote:

Good for you man. We’ve all seen so many people fluctuate with weight and body composition in our lives, and we’ve probably all seen folks that have shown some weight loss but not sustain it. You’ve no doubt worked hard to shed that weight already, stay focused and don’t turn back on your hard work

Thanks. stop drinking soda’s and eating candy bars I’m sure was the main player in the first 2 week weight loss. I also purchased a used Elliptical to start getting more exercise when the weather is not great outside. once the weather gets warmer I will start walking and biking more. That elliptical is a ass kicker. I knew I was not in the best shape, but had no idea of how bad till I jumped on that thing

First off I’m sorry that you have to deal with is, it’s the type of thing that rattles you at the very least.

My son was diagnosed with Type 1 or Juvenile Diabetes when he was 12 almost 20 years ago. My wife and I are active in JDRF Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. I would suggest going to their web site to start as there is information on Type 2 diabetes and the difference between Type 1 and Type 2.

Despite your wish to do this on your own, my best advice is find an Endocrinologist or Diabetes Specialist if you are not seeing one already and find a dietitian and meet with them. As examples my son will tell you that certain types of carbs/ food spike his blood sugar worse than others, not eating a solid breakfast throws everything out of whack, beer or spirits w/o food causes lots of issues.

Diabetes whether Type 1 or Type 2 are not the issue unregulated blood sugar is. The risk of complications from unregulated blood sugar are enormous, will change your quality of life, your life as you knew it in many ways is gone but your quality of life can stay the same, you are in a marathon not a sprint, you cannot do it alone so do it right.

I’m happy and grateful to report my son has good control of his blood sugar, he has traveled all over the world doing “adventures”, hunts and fishes around his home north of the iron range all because he controls his blood sugar, which includes meeting with medical professionals regularly, diet, exercise, and keeping up to date on the latest advances in treatment which are coming at warp speed.

Best of luck and health as you navigate this.

You can find a diet to fit any food bias you can think of.
How can diametrically opposed diets both be right?
You need a new lifestyle, not a diet.
I think it’s important to understand food addiction.
Addressing food addiction is the only long term sustainable solution.
Check out Bright Line Eating (BLE).
Get Dr. Susan Pierce Thompson’s BLE book and cookbook.
She has a ton of youtubes and get on her email list.
You’ll learn the neuropsychology of food.
That’ll give you the tools for a healthy lifetime.

Carbs are not needed by most people but glucose is. Thankfully, your body can make its own glucose in the absence of carbohydrates through a process called gluconeogenesis.

I personally would look into the advice that Bigwerm offered. I’d add Dr. Shawn Baker, Dr. Ken Berry and Dr. Jason Fung to the list.

There is a lot of interesting research going on right now that calls into question all of the dietary guidelines of the last 75 years.

There is a professor and scientist named Dr. Ben Bikman who studies the insulin/glucose issue. It really opened my mind to the possible root cause of the so called plagues of prosperity.

thumper..if your not doing insulin your type 2 like others said…… i;ve been dealing with it for years….i also take meta whatever its called. i also do a once a week Trulicity and have dropped 50 lbs. i’ve been able to keep it in check with really not watching a whole lot what i eat.

stay away from white bread is one thing. also like Mike said noodles…..anything with starch. its to the point now i dont like white bread!!

i just needed the trulicity filled…..they cant get my dosage in, its on backorder. apparently its the newest weight loss drug……pretty friggin spendy weight loss drug too!!!!

Rice and pasta make me sky rocket. If I don’t have any carbs my sugar goes up. Dietician told me you need a few to keep a balance. If I don’t do a small snack like seed or nuts before bed mynumbers will actually go up.. It works differently for everybody. Good luck..Bonus cheat…most hard liquor is 0 carbs