In the description of this unit it says that it is side imaging and down imaging compatible. Will it do these functions with the transducer provided? Or is it a trick use of words that means I have to buy something else in order to make it work?
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Helix 12 Mega Si Question
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Red EyePosts: 953August 10, 2020 at 9:46 am #1963825
Pretty sure they sell em both ways. With and without transducers. Should say in description and on the box.
Kevin YoppPosts: 192August 10, 2020 at 9:46 am #1963826Pretty sure it does si and di right out of the box, at least my helix 10 SI did.
August 10, 2020 at 9:56 am #1963829Pretty sure it does si and di right out of the box, at least my helix 10 SI did.
Thanks Kevin, the provided transducer does these functions then?
SmellsonPosts: 328August 10, 2020 at 10:13 am #1963832Mega si comes with ducer capable of si, di, 2d.
Mega di …. ducer for di and 2d
Mega c?….ducer for 2d.
August 10, 2020 at 4:19 pm #1963909Do you have anything currently?
The latest birds can steal capabilities through networking. You used to have to buy all si, to get si on all. But not now! Good way to save $1k especially when Playing with the big screens. I would have to read up on whether that started in gen 2 or 3. Best thing they could’ve done if they’d done that year’s ago I be oodles ahead!
August 11, 2020 at 8:12 am #1964008Just a brand new 21′ North River Seahawk so starting from scratch.
August 11, 2020 at 9:41 am #1964029Well, I believe you could get a 5″ gen3 networkable in SI, and network it to a 12″ ci and save some big coin, and end up with 2 units both displaying SI. Of course you’d need to upgrade si ducer as I believe the small units come with lesser divers.
Food for thought
August 11, 2020 at 7:32 pm #1964278Not sure if the 5s work for that, but I believe the 7s do now. Someone probably knows the answer.
August 12, 2020 at 10:59 am #1964431Any Humminbird you buy make sure it has the N in the model number as that means networkable. I do not believe a 5 is and some 7`s are not either unless designated as such.
You have to be sure the transducer is included, as they do sell head units only, it will tell in the designation.
J.E. VanNattaPosts: 7August 21, 2020 at 6:50 am #1966947In the description of this unit it says that it is side imaging and down imaging compatible. Will it do these functions with the transducer provided? Or is it a trick use of words that means I have to buy something else in order to make it work?
There are no “tricks” from Humminbird. Plug and play with the exact features indicated.
Do you have anything currently?
The latest birds can steal capabilities through networking. You used to have to buy all si, to get si on all. But not now! Good way to save $1k especially when Playing with the big screens. I would have to read up on whether that started in gen 2 or 3. Best thing they could’ve done if they’d done that year’s ago I be oodles ahead!
Shared via ethernet not “steal” you have been able to share on networked units for years. All SI unit include SI/DI/2D. All DI units include DI/2D.
August 21, 2020 at 7:36 am #1966952<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>SuperDave1959 wrote:</div>
In the description of this unit it says that it is side imaging and down imaging compatible. Will it do these functions with the transducer provided? Or is it a trick use of words that means I have to buy something else in order to make it work?There are no “tricks” from Humminbird. Plug and play with the exact features indicated.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FishBlood&RiverMud wrote:</div>
Do you have anything currently?The latest birds can steal capabilities through networking. You used to have to buy all si, to get si on all. But not now! Good way to save $1k especially when Playing with the big screens. I would have to read up on whether that started in gen 2 or 3. Best thing they could’ve done if they’d done that year’s ago I be oodles ahead!
Shared via ethernet not “steal” you have been able to share on networked units for years. All SI unit include SI/DI/2D. All DI units include DI/2D.
Never before could you display si on a ci. Now you can if done properly. Display and steal are one in the same as far as this discussion.
mojogunterPosts: 3313August 21, 2020 at 8:28 am #1966963FYI helix and solix do not share sonar via ethernet. It has to be helix to helix, or solix to solix. I had a gen 3 helix 10 mega SI networked to a gen 2 helix 10 DI, and got SI on the DI unit. I am told though it wasn’t mega imaging on the DI unit. I was told it was 800 but I don’t know if that is true or not, but the SI did work on it. Changed the SI helix to a solix 12 and I can’t get them to pair now.
August 21, 2020 at 9:02 am #1966968Can fish finders get anymore complicated! Ill be looking to upgrade next year to SI and my head spins just trying to examine the options within one manufacturer never mind compare what one offers to the others. Feel like i need a PHD just to make heads or tales of which unit is the best for me,. I digress
August 21, 2020 at 10:05 am #1966986Can fish finders get anymore complicated! Ill be looking to upgrade next year to SI and my head spins just trying to examine the options within one manufacturer never mind compare what one offers to the others. Feel like i need a PHD just to make heads or tales of which unit is the best for me,. I digress
A large part of me doesn’t even know if I will use SI but am willing to try it. Bets are that I use 2d like I always have.
August 21, 2020 at 10:30 am #1967002Can fish finders get anymore complicated! Ill be looking to upgrade next year to SI and my head spins just trying to examine the options within one manufacturer never mind compare what one offers to the others. Feel like i need a PHD just to make heads or tales of which unit is the best for me,. I digress
If you get it figured out, let me know. I will be shopping for a new boat in the coming year.
August 21, 2020 at 10:30 am #1967003<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
Can fish finders get anymore complicated! Ill be looking to upgrade next year to SI and my head spins just trying to examine the options within one manufacturer never mind compare what one offers to the others. Feel like i need a PHD just to make heads or tales of which unit is the best for me,. I digressA large part of me doesn’t even know if I will use SI but am willing to try it. Bets are that I use 2d like I always have.
once you use it…you will use it all the time!!!
August 21, 2020 at 10:40 am #1967017<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
Can fish finders get anymore complicated! Ill be looking to upgrade next year to SI and my head spins just trying to examine the options within one manufacturer never mind compare what one offers to the others. Feel like i need a PHD just to make heads or tales of which unit is the best for me,. I digressA large part of me doesn’t even know if I will use SI but am willing to try it. Bets are that I use 2d like I always have.
Haha. I was chatting with the griz Monday. Last time I saw he’d updated to a helix 9. (From something built 50yrs ago )
Monday I asked jokingly if he figured it out… he’s like, its easy… all I want is the depth. Don’t use anything else…I said… so your going to the same spots fishing the same way and hammering fish eh! Lol. He’s one that knows what he wants and is quite content there!
Man he’s slowing down though.Hbirds started getting complicated once they started lowering the price point to appeal to the masses. Most people won’t spend $400 on a unit… so they had eliminated features to accomplish this.
I don’t keep up with that crap because they’re a fraction of what you get by sticking with the higher end variety.
And yes, solix has always been the ugly stepchild that don’t play with the family.
August 21, 2020 at 10:51 am #1967026<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>J.E. VanNatta wrote:</div>
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>SuperDave1959 wrote:</div>
In the description of this unit it says that it is side imaging and down imaging compatible. Will it do these functions with the transducer provided? Or is it a trick use of words that means I have to buy something else in order to make it work?There are no “tricks” from Humminbird. Plug and play with the exact features indicated.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FishBlood&RiverMud wrote:</div>
Do you have anything currently?The latest birds can steal capabilities through networking. You used to have to buy all si, to get si on all. But not now! Good way to save $1k especially when Playing with the big screens. I would have to read up on whether that started in gen 2 or 3. Best thing they could’ve done if they’d done that year’s ago I be oodles ahead!
Shared via ethernet not “steal” you have been able to share on networked units for years. All SI unit include SI/DI/2D. All DI units include DI/2D.
Never before could you display si on a ci. Now you can if done properly. Display and steal are one in the same as far as this discussion.
Not one and the same. I have this set up in my boat. You can display on any screen, but you can’t control it from the display unit. And for whatever reason it doesn’t look the same. I have a Helix 12 SI G2N that I display on either my Helix 9 G2N or on my Helix 12 G3N. It doesn’t look nearly as good on the display units. It’s functional, but not the same.
August 21, 2020 at 10:54 am #1967030Superdave,
SI is good for shallow water trolling. I find it completely useless for anything more than 15ft, but maybe that’s just me. I can see those walleyes 40 ft out to the port side but it doesn’t mean I can put them in the boat LOL
My Helix 7 si GPS G2 came with the correct Si ducer out of the box. The catch was (maybe still is?) if you want the image shown on the box advertisements, you need to buy a better “HD” transducer. I have no need for better resolution on a 7″ screen anyway so I stuck with the “compact side imaging” transducer it came with.
Good luck
August 21, 2020 at 12:21 pm #1967087Not one and the same. I have this set up in my boat. You can display on any screen, but you can’t control it from the display unit. And for whatever reason it doesn’t look the same. I have a Helix 12 SI G2N that I display on either my Helix 9 G2N or on my Helix 12 G3N. It doesn’t look nearly as good on the display units. It’s functional, but not the same.
Good to know, didn’t know that. I just have two big si units and haven’t felt the need to go to a mega just to turn it off anyway. Again. Thanks.
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