Pairing the 1198 with ?

I don’t want to wait till the I-Cast show this year, waiting to make a switch on both of my electronics has been killing me. I wanted to last year and waited. SO at this point I think I will change both units out, wait for a new generation of technology to come out and get the bugs worked out then do some adjusting another year to come. Most of my fishing is for crappies and walleyes on rivers, lakes and the reservoirs.

Now I’m replacing my current units, HB 987csi on the dash with, an 1198combo and my old Low LCX15mt on the bow with hummmm, not another 1198, but 800 or 900 series what?

Many of you have or have had the 1100 series HBs. Any suggestions for me as to which one to pair the 1198 with?

I have an 1197 paired with a 958 on the bow (connected to the MinnKota US2 transducer on my terrova with ipilot). It’s an awesome setup if you ask me.

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I have an 1197 paired with a 958 on the bow (connected to the MinnKota US2 transducer on my terrova with ipilot). It’s an awesome setup if you ask me.

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John, do you find it frustrating that the 1197 and the 958 are “interlinked” instead of connect via ethernet?

if you’ve got an 1198, i suggest pairing it with a 998 or 898 connected via ethernet. get the biggest screen you can reasonably afford.

this is important if you want to see your SI data across the network, as all of the display units must have SI capability in order to show it.

What is the differance between interlink and ethernet?

I haven’t bought anything as of yet.

they both network the units together for sharing of information such as waypoints. Interlink is an older (soon to be obsolete) technology that does not share sonar or SI across the network, something the ethernet does. the Interlink also requires you to mount a separate component box, while the ethernet connections are direct wires between units so it’s cleaner.

the ethernet connections allow for much faster exchange of larger amounts of data – this is especially helpful for sharing real-time Side Imaging results across the network.

it also allows for future expandability, for example the new network hubs will allow more than two units to be in the network. i’m also betting that in the not-so-distant future Johnson Outdoors will use the ethernet connections to integrate Humminbird gps loaded with a Lakemaster map chip with the MinnKota iPilot…you’ll want to have ethernet so you have the most options open to you to take advantage of these kinds of advances as they arrive.

overview:

http://www.humminbird.com/uploadedFiles/Humminbird/Content/Support/FAQ/2011%20Ethernet(1).pdf

manual:

http://store.humminbird.com/media/document/Ethernet_Manual.pdf

I have an 1197 on the dash and an 997 up front with individual HDSI xducers on each unit. My units dont talk to one another. I love that setup, but may switch the locations, as the 997 provides everything I need to see from the console, but is a little too far away standing on the casting deck. I’m at least gonna try it. I can always switch them back and forth/

Quote “i’m also betting that in the not-so-distant future Johnson Outdoors will use the ethernet connections to integrate Humminbird gps loaded with a Lakemaster map chip with the MinnKota iPilot…”

And this is why I haven’t made the change last year cause I was waiting for this to come out, tired of waiting. I’ll let them get a couple of years on the new talking units after they unveil and then make another switch.

Thanks, I had forgot about the ethernet connection. I’m thinking I may want to do the dual sonars using the “Y” cable on the rear of my I/O drive as well for greater clairity in DI and SI.

James and some of the IDO staff,
Are you guys still running the 1198 or the 1197 on your boats? What are you guys pairing them up with?

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James and some of the IDO staff,

Are you guys still running the 1198 or the 1197 on your boats? What are you guys pairing them up with?

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Thanks, I had forgot about the ethernet connection. I’m thinking I may want to do the dual sonars using the “Y” cable on the rear of my I/O drive as well for greater clairity in DI and SI.

James and some of the IDO staff,
Are you guys still running the 1198 or the 1197 on your boats? What are you guys pairing them up with?

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Have I pissed someone off for a reply to my honest question?

I have the 998 SI at the console ethernet connected to an 858 at the bow last year and loved it.

This year I’ll be adding an 858 to the console as well.

What is specific to each of your units that you like?
Is there advantages or disavantages to either 998 or 858?
Thanks for your responce.

My 998 has the SI and is an 1″ bigger, that is the advantage.

If you can get a bigger screen, go with it. The bigger the screen the better as you’ll enjoy looking at the screen so much!

Any other questions let me know.

OK, update,

I removed a HB 987cSI and a LOW LCX15MT. Either I would get interference or bubbles on the ducers in water turbulence and lose track of the bottom while on plane. I would have to rely on the DI for depth till the digital would return. Sometimes I would have to come off plane to do so.

I installed Humminbird’s 1198 and the 998 both cSI’s on Stabil adjustable mounts so I could interchange the units with each other. I also used the following pic to do the rigging with. Mounted all three transducers to boards and my previous issues are all gone with this change in mounting! The Ethernet cable is used to join the two units and I used a high speed transducer not a thru haul.

I ran my riveted Lund Tyee I/O drive boat at full throttle this last Sunday and tried to mimic the water conditions that caused me to lose bottom before, I never lost depth. I saw constant depth and almost a 70% picture for the SI, DI screens at WOT. Remember this is at 52mph and looking for a chop and wave where I could. Of course the day I wanted to see how the install turned out was a calm warm day.

Happy, Excellence!

Thanks for everyone’s input!

Any interference at the troller? If I may ask, what are your plans for your old x15? I’m looking for a high speed ducer.

I havn’t looked for a US2 ducer cable connection yet, not sure if they are made or not.
Otherwise I’m going to add a SI/ducer to the bottom of the trolling motor. HA! HBird will have nothing on me with my own mock up “360”
My x15 is in the classified section, make me an offer.

Your terrova will go 360 but too fast to see anything in SI. When they program in a timed 360 turn that matches the 360 modules speed then it will be an effective 360 unit. Ill take a look but don’t need the unit just the ducer. You won’t need the US2 cabling when you get your HDSI mounted. Its a killer application when you understand what its telling you. If your new to SI I suggest you learn as much as you can from the console unit at 3 mph before worrying too much about what the trolling unit is showing you at slower speeds.

Not new at all, I had the 987cSI bought it new 6 years ago. It is the first unit out with SI, 2 years ago a software update gave me DI.

By the way I was joking about getting 360 out of my terrova. I guy would be nuts to think it would work any where close to the 360

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I never lost depth. I saw constant depth and almost a 70% picture for the SI, DI screens at WOT.
Happy, Excellence!

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that’s a great feeling, isn’t it?
i love it when stuff…just…works!

i may end up going to dual SI tranducers (R/L) on the stern in my boat too just to get clearer images. i’ve got to move my current transducer anyway, so it’s time to make a decision on re-centering it or going with two. thanks for posting the diagram.

A great feeling does not describe the feeling about receiving an exceptional working product that functions as I thought it should out of the box and installed on my boat 6 (yes I said 6) years ago when I bought the first SI unit out on the market!

I’m very Ecstatic with my new setup! Don’t get me wrong, this imagery has come at a price to where most men (I said most and not all) have ever gone before in the onboard graft electronics world! But it is well worth it to me! OK I’m completely nuts! Eh Brian? (Ok don’t answer that.)

On a Humminbird website, Humminbird Greg (works for H-Bird) showed this layout to me. Exceptional help there!

Two or three very knowledgeable people can chime in during a work day a few times to give a hand.

Drop me a pm if I can be of any help to you. I’m not sure if the Governors and other power’s that is here want me to post another helpful web site or not.

I’ll help in any way that I can. I really think my past problems from the past are solved completely.

Now to drop my head into my new units and do some real learning forwards and backwards!