Has anybody had the ceymar drag freeze up on them ?

  • @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1826517

    I have all siennas and I figured out to replace the grease with oil for the reel part but the drag is still freezing. I’m gonna try to oil the drag washers lightly tonite and if that doesn’t work they’ll be useless for outside icefishing. The Okuma site says the ceymar has oil lubed washers instead of grease. If that one freezes I guess $100 plus saltwater from now on for ice fishing. I called shimano they said the nasci or stradic but expensive to buy 6 or 7. I suppose the saltwater reels are sealed better for condensation no matter what kind of drag washers. I’m goin to cascade lake this wknd so wondering if I should buy the ceymars today.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20031
    #1826519

    How cold are you fishing. Sounds like your doing everything right.
    My siennas after toying with them do not freeze up. And either have my 2 ceymars

    Mat Peirce
    Inactive
    SE Iowa
    Posts: 197
    #1826520

    ceymars need relubed just like pflueger and shimanos do

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1826527

    High of 7 this wknd usually below zero though. Ok good. The drags haven’t froze completely but as if you turned it 6 clicks tighter. Too tight for 2 lb test. I’m working in Nd but I should be able to find some oil so just try and get all the grease out in the siennas washers and put lightest coat of oil? I might have the blue Lucas oil in my ice fishing bag.

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    Inactive
    MN - 55082
    Posts: 1644
    #1826528

    I’d put that effort into replacing the felt with carbontex washers.

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1826531

    I was wondering about that also I’m sure those things suck up moisture and it stays. I’ve never messed with the drag washers we’ll see tonite. What site do recommend for the replacemt washers ?

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    Inactive
    MN - 55082
    Posts: 1644
    #1826533

    Smoothdrag.com has a selection of sizes you can order. I buy sheets through digitackle and punch my own using a trupunch punch and die set.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20031
    #1826534

    I know Thorne brothers always had the upgraded drag washers. For a few bucks. But I bet many places sell them. They make a huge difference

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1826561

    Nice thanks guys. I order a lot from Thorne bros. I’ll call em and check out that website

    tucrs
    NW Metro
    Posts: 999
    #1826587

    Those felt washers are not great for cold weather. Clean out all the old grease and put some cold weather/low temp grease and a Carbontex washer. They are great for smoothing out the drag pressure in any temp.

    I install them in all the reels we sell. It is a significant improvement for the price.

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1826610

    Thanks. I just ordered the carbontex washers for all my reels from smooth drag. So just use the grease that comes with them ? That they recommend ? Not oil? I called them they said use the grease. I suppose some other products good damage the washers.

    slipperybob
    Lil'Can, MN
    Posts: 1402
    #1826612

    Carbontex washers need grease. Or any harder surface drag washers.

    The felt type drags, use oil.

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1826616

    Just googled it and post from ido last year came up sounds like everybody’s using the red hot sauce oil. So that’s ok in the washers and in the reel ?

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1826687

    I see what froze now

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    slipperybob
    Lil'Can, MN
    Posts: 1402
    #1826921

    felt washer type drag and excessive grease on the steel washer.

    doesn’t even look like the drag material is making any contact with the steel washer

    Jamin
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 925
    #1826932

    @tony6

    I have a couple c-10 and a c-30 I’d like to upgrade. Any chance you can share what size carbontex washers you ordered for your Ceymar? I didn’t see Okumas listed and it would save me a phone call.

    Thanks.

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1835023

    Well I’ve been testing in -10 or colder weather for the last month. I ordered the reelspeed lube products but took a cple weeks to come in the mail. I completely removed all grease with wd-40 and put pas lode cold weather nail gun oil in all parts of the reel. It worked didn’t stiffen at all. This actually might work better with the felt washer instead of the carbon because with the carbon was alittle sticky. But nothing stiffened up in -15

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    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1835028

    Yesterday put 2 reels outside in -10 for 24 hrs. I tested one reel with greased carbon washer wiped off then added reelspeed plus over it and Super smooth. Other reel completely dry Carbon washer with reelspeed extreme plus lube only, didn’t freeze at all or stiffen but a tiny bit sticky. The inside of the reels and main bearing still only have the nail gun oil in them. Gonna test with the reelspeed lube on them tonite. One reel with a tiny bit of grease on the big gears and one with the reelspeed plus only.

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    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1835036

    Now I’m back in business. These were breaking my 2 lb test. The last one that broke me off I’m pretty sure was the roller on the bail stiffening up.

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    Mat Peirce
    Inactive
    SE Iowa
    Posts: 197
    #1835054

    I always use oil on drag, not grease – unless it is one of those crappy delrin drag washers on inline reels.

    Steve Gildersleeve
    Posts: 14
    #1835076

    Those felt washers are not great for cold weather. Clean out all the old grease and put some cold weather/low temp grease and a Carbontex washer. They are great for smoothing out the drag pressure in any temp.

    I install them in all the reels we sell. It is a significant improvement for the price.

    John is correct with the washer replacement. Fished them all weekend in frigid temps with no issues!

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1835497

    Thanks. What kind of cold weather grease? I’ve tried the cals purple and the reelspeed greas in that pic and they both get hard in the cold. I tested another reel over night in cold with a tiny bit of grease inside the reel on the gears and it stiffened up quick. Tried mixing it with that reelspeed plus. Didn’t work. I got the drag figured out. I did put all carbon washers in the drag. Still trying to figure out if oil only on the main gears inside the reel.

    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1835502

    ?

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    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1835504

    ? Only ones I can find besides frabil tip up lube or the blue ht

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    @tony6
    Posts: 52
    #1835701

    Right now temp. Ok I’m done. 2 reels sat outside all night and didn’t stiffen. Reelspeed grease worked in carbon washer then grease wiped off, then reelspeed plus again on washer for the drag. Reelspeed plus inside of main bearing, and on gears reelspeed plus then more passload oil. Both reels smooth as room temp.

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