Hand held cell phone ban while driving

  • BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11670
    #1681567

    For those of you concerned about family or kid drivers, you may want to invest in one of these. I’m not sure what the answer is, but something needs to be done for a variety of reasons.

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    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1681578

    Blah, blah, blah….Whatever!!!

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    311hemi
    Dayton, MN
    Posts: 742
    #1681655

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Munchy wrote:</div>
    I have a work issued cellphone and need to be available 24/7.

    My following response is NOT aimed at you personally. However, that is part of the problem, everyone considers themselves to be irreplaceable and more important than anyone else.
    24/7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, really? Is that the life you have? Are you an indentured servant? Is the world going to end when you are no longer available 24/7?

    Trust me, no one individual is that important. This applies to everyone, myself included.

    What is the purpose of life if you can not slow down and smell the roses?

    Unfortunately some of us do have to be available 24-7 at times. I am on call one night a week and some weekends. Is the world going to end, no, but it would force me to stay home 100% of the time while on-call which would really change things. Someone could get seriously hurt if I don’t answer or respond to my calls.

    mnrabbit
    South Central Minnesota
    Posts: 815
    #1681680

    Someone could get seriously hurt if I don’t answer or respond to my calls.

    There’s the irony over this whole thread. Someone could get hurt if you don’t answer. Someone could get hurt if you do answer and are distracted.

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5625
    #1681700

    I don’t think it’s necessary to to disable cell phones in cars. I think it’s a good idea to disable them in moving cars.

    Even if you’re the 24/7 emergency call guy, why can’t you pull over, stop, and answer the call? Why do you have to be moving?

    SR

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1681705

    I don’t think it’s necessary to to disable cell phones in cars. I think it’s a good idea to disable them in moving cars.

    Even if you’re the 24/7 emergency call guy, why can’t you pull over, stop, and answer the call? Why do you have to be moving?

    SR

    I’m picturing 50 cars lining the road off interstate 94. Doesn’t sound safe to me

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4931
    #1681707

    I don’t think it’s necessary to to disable cell phones in cars. I think it’s a good idea to disable them in moving cars.

    Even if you’re the 24/7 emergency call guy, why can’t you pull over, stop, and answer the call? Why do you have to be moving?

    SR

    What if you are the passenger in said vehicle? Why should their cell phone be blocked?

    Also the way most people are talking here they want the entire phone blocked while the vehicle is in motion. That means ZERO calls or messages until the vehicle stops. If I’m on a 2 hour drive I would not know the phone even rang until I was at my destination or stopped somewhere.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1681724

    Going back to the OP, I am fine with the no texting while driving law, provided there is an exception to non-handheld texting. For example doing any text that doesn’t require you to look at your phone either through your auto, bluetooth and/or text to speech. Same goes for phone calls. But I know, good luck enforcing it. I was actually shocked to learn Deertracker cited 30 people for texting.

    Also, like a lot of driving laws, good luck enforcing it.

    I can see it now, “You know why I pulled you over today”. “Uh, no?”. “I saw you texting”. “What are you talking about?”. “I saw you talking and there is no one else in the car”. “Um yeah, I was singing”…..”I noticed your left turn signal is out”.

    I’d be fine with carriers and manufacturers getting together and providing a service that shuts off texting when a phone is moving faster than 20mph so parents can manage it, but that’s as far as I would go.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1681737

    For all those who are in favor of shutting cell phones off while a vehicle is in motion id like to hear your suggestions for how this plan is going to be put in place and who will maintain it.

    Will service providers need to build an entirely new network to be able to provide signal to those in need (law enforcement, emergency response people)or will they be tasked with somehow identifying different groups with different policies? Who pays for that? who pays to maintain and enforce this? How do we compensate for the loss of business not only for not being able to use cell phones but to companies like Verizon and AT&T who simply cannot benefit from their service being turned off during large portions of the day? I posted these questions earlier and didn’t get any response. Its one thing to say “lets do this” and another to have an idea of how to do it. Id like to end all wars but…..

    Not trying to be pessimistic here but I just don’t see how this suggestion would work.

    311hemi
    Dayton, MN
    Posts: 742
    #1681770

    I don’t think it’s necessary to to disable cell phones in cars. I think it’s a good idea to disable them in moving cars.

    Even if you’re the 24/7 emergency call guy, why can’t you pull over, stop, and answer the call? Why do you have to be moving?

    SR

    I certainly can and will pull over. However, are you saying my phone would ring (cellular is activate) and the phone just wont allow me to answer while in motion.

    Basically anytime I am in the boat, car, riding my bike, train, or plane moving over a certain speed can’t talk on my phone (even if I am not driving). This would affect much more than just distracted driving on the roads. I have a hard time seeing how they would achieve this.

    gary d
    cordova,il
    Posts: 1125
    #1681791

    Cell phones have been around now for 40 years. In fact today was the first time a cell phone was used. Cell phone usage does not bother me, what bother me is messaging. I have had 2 very close calls because of texting. flame
    Common sense and safety first is the way to go!!!

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1681800

    They’re iz all ready 2 much gloverment regulaytion
    Chitt, I just misssed ny exit

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18629
    #1681805

    They’re iz all ready 2 much gloverment regulaytion
    Chitt, I just misssed ny exit

    jester

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #1681806

    Common sense and safety first is the way to go!!!

    Common sense and safety are not synonymous with texting or yacking.

    Sharon
    Moderator
    SE Metro
    Posts: 5457
    #1681827

    Maybe just women should be banned from any left seat in front part of vehicle.
    (except Sharon of course)

    Ha! I hate driving. Honestly, I’d love to have a chauffeur drive me around so I can space out and stare at the trees and sky.

    Distracted driving is a complex problem with no simple solution. Other than making fines outrageous. Think about it – people probably wouldn’t speed much if one ticket fee is $5000.

    tim hurley
    Posts: 5833
    #1681835

    Gotta say did not read all of the responses, but could respond to a couple. So the salespeople would loose all this money, that argument. A business needs to buy a cog they will buy-if only your cog sellers were effected that would be bad but your competitors are effected too. We have this emergency WHILE the car is moving AND the car needs to stay moving-this happens? Only in the movie Speed.
    OK someone will think of a senorio but laws are about probability, the general good and trade-offs. So for instance you could give every 5 year old a loaded hand gun and you could imagine a situation where that might have a positive effect but overall the effect would be negative.
    Also a dedicted GPS is not distracting because you listen to it AND it is giving you info about the road you are driving and not say the Cardashions

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1681839

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>311hemi wrote:</div>
    Someone could get seriously hurt if I don’t answer or respond to my calls.

    There’s the irony over this whole thread. Someone could get hurt if you don’t answer. Someone could get hurt if you do answer and are distracted.

    That’s just silly talk to defend ones wanting not irony. Aside from public safety officials and enforcement (would be obviously exempt) what vocation should be so important to affect my life or my loved ones that could not wait a short time in time ?

    mikek
    Brainerd-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 183
    #1681848

    aint that truth!! Like the lit up sigh by the DOT reading,
    4 out 5 crashes
    are caused by
    distracted drivers!!

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1681849

    Has anybody really looked into the studies on cell phone research that focus on driving while talking on a cell phone?

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1681855

    Has anybody really looked into the studies on cell phone research that focus on driving while talking on a cell phone?

    There is no place on this forum for facts.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1681859

    Cell phones have been around now for 40 years. In fact today was the first time a cell phone was used. Cell phone usage does not bother me, what bother me is messaging. I have had 2 very close calls because of texting. flame
    Common sense and safety first is the way to go!!!

    I suggest you stop texting.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1681860

    You can’t legislate common sense and responsibility.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1681863

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>1hl&sinker wrote:</div>
    Has anybody really looked into the studies on cell phone research that focus on driving while talking on a cell phone?

    There is no place on this forum for facts.

    I think its more of a facebook thing trickling down thing.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1681925

    You can’t legislate common sense and responsibility.

    Exactly, it’s against the law to drive with a b.a.c. of .08 and up, right? How many people on this thread have done it in the last week?

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1681931

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mplspug wrote:</div>
    You can’t legislate common sense and responsibility.

    Exactly, it’s against the law to drive with a b.a.c. of .08 and up, right? How many people on this thread have done it in the last week?

    IDK how many people on this forum are from Wisconsin? rotflol

    Sorry that was too far. Ive made my insulting joke for the day.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1681935

    @mplspug1 If you reread DT’s quote, he’s referring to citing more people over the age of 30 for texting while driving than under the age of 30.

    @mplspug1, you can be pulled over for texted and seatbelt as a primary offense. At least in MN. Surprising I’ve probably cited more people over 30 for texting while driving than under.
    DT

    Reef W
    Posts: 2751
    #1681942

    This is a problem that will naturally go away as voice recognition and control improves.

    I can already call people, text people, and start navigation without looking at or touching my phone. There are apps that will automatically read out received texts. The big limitation right now is the accuracy of the voice recognition and that’s only going to improve until eventually there is no reason to not use it.

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