Building organic matter on our plots

  • bob_bergeson
    cannon falls
    Posts: 2798
    #204490

    Most of us end up planting our plots in areas that are really not very fertile. This is where our soil sample really comes in handy, I was recently asked to take a look at 4 soil samples taken from a rather large farm where a couple of our members are making a commitment to turning their property into a deer mecca. When looking at the samples I found that all 4 samples had a sufficient ph level
    one of the fields had an organic matter of 7.2% the other 3 samples showed a 3% or less organic matter while all of these plots will grow a decent crop it is obvious that 3 of these plots need a long term plan to improve the organic matter. thats where we come in.winter wheat, winter rye and Brassicas, specifically rape will greatly improve the organic matter in our soil. it may take years but it will be worth the wait. One big mistake I used to make was to hook the plow up and drop it in as deep as I could and turn all of the topsoil 10″ underground My next year samples would show a significant loss of organic matter. It probably took me 5 years to fix what i had done I guess what I’m saying is try to only till about 4-5″ deep. keep all of that trash in the topsoil don’t bury it. Pat has a good set up for this. he mows the plot and then tills the trash into the topsoil at about 4-5″ doing this year after year will greatly improve your soil

    lick
    Posts: 6443
    #105728

    Great post Bob

    I have never used round up and probably never will. I mow it short and till it back in. I have had great results doing this and you know what they say ….

    If it aint broke don’t fix it

    qdm4life
    Albertville, MN
    Posts: 956
    #105741

    Bob any sugestions for BIG areas?? As far as tillage methods? Can we increase the matter by tilling in the standing corn the following season? To me discing in a standing plot of corn would be the most tonnage that one could put in in a yearr to acccelerate the prosess? Thanks as always!

    bob_bergeson
    cannon falls
    Posts: 2798
    #105751

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    Bob any sugestions for BIG areas?? As far as tillage methods? Can we increase the matter by tilling in the standing corn the following season? To me discing in a standing plot of corn would be the most tonnage that one could put in in a yearr to acccelerate the prosess? Thanks as always!


    Your right Ben the corn stubble will work great. The problem is that the small kill plots really won’t grow corn very well until we get the organic matter built up to an acceptable level. That old corn plot on the 1st soil test proves that your theory is right on What I have found is that most of the food plotters just don’t have the equipment to raise corn.

    todders
    Shoreview, MN
    Posts: 723
    #105767

    How about an ido co-op of farming equipment It is nice to know that the first year is the toughest and then your hard work will work for you in years to come. How many years can you plant corn and beans before rotating just those two or every couple of years should you rotate in something completely different? What would be the ideal range of
    organic matter to shoot for on soil samples? I feel like a first grader in a
    college class about food plots Good info as always Bob

    bob_bergeson
    cannon falls
    Posts: 2798
    #105769

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    How about an ido co-op of farming equipment It is nice to know that the first year is the toughest and then your hard work will work for you in years to come. How many years can you plant corn and beans before rotating just those two or every couple of years should you rotate in something completely different? What would be the ideal range of
    organic matter to shoot for on soil samples? I feel like a first grader in a
    college class about food plots Good info as always Bob


    I am all for the IDO equipment Rotating corn and soybeans will work forever. But you can really improve your rotation if you also add a clover plot or two into the mix. they will fix very valuable nitrogen into the soil for a great corn crop with very little fertilizer As far as brassicas I don’t like to go more than 2 years in a row. then I move the brassicas to a new spot for one year.
    “Desirable range for percent organic matter: As climate influences the ability of organic matter to
    accumulate, no benchmarks for soil organic matter (SOM) can be broadly applied. A 3–5%
    organic matter content in cool temperate climates is desirable”

    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #105841

    Good stuff Bob – thanks once again for sharing your food plot experiences/knowledge with us.

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