Grouse's 2016 Food Plots

  • sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1646874

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheFamousGrouse wrote:</div>
    But if you need lots of free landscaping material, just let me know.

    Pick your own? Like those ever generous apple orchards and pumpkin patches that are so popular now?!?! I see a new trend, organic, free range, self harvested landscaping rock, you pay more but you know where they came from! woot yay woot yay

    I love this idea, Pick your own rocks!!! For the life of me I can’t find a decent cash of rocks anywhere on our farm. I have looked high and low. Oh what I wouldn’t give for a nice rock pile to make a stone wall out of… rotflol rotflol rotflol

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11662
    #1646930

    Oh what I wouldn’t give for a nice rock pile to make a stone wall out of…

    You know that the Indians believed that ragweed infestations are a punishment from the Gods for those who joke about other Indians who have too much rock on their happy hunting ground. There could be something to this…

    Luckily for you, there is a way to cleanse your mojo. It involves picking rock for 3 days while sweating profusely and chanting.

    Grouse

    tegg
    Hudson, Wi/Aitkin Co
    Posts: 1450
    #1646963

    Yesterday she was walking with me up the field road from the south plot and we walked past the biggest rock pile on the property. She looks over at it and says, “We could have the prettiest dry stone walls here. You should build one. It would just like the farms in England.”

    Careful. Next thing you know you’ll be putting up a kiwi trellis.

    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1646987

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>sticker wrote:</div>
    Oh what I wouldn’t give for a nice rock pile to make a stone wall out of…

    You know that the Indians believed that ragweed infestations are a punishment from the Gods for those who joke about other Indians who have too much rock on their happy hunting ground. There could be something to this…

    Luckily for you, there is a way to cleanse your mojo. It involves picking rock for 3 days while sweating profusely and chanting.

    Grouse

    I’d rather clip every ragweed plant in that 4 acre plot with a 3″ scissors instead of picking rock smash

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11662
    #1653164

    The deer are still eating non-stop in my brassicas plot. They didn’t start in on the brassicas in earnest until the first week in November (which is fine by me), but once they started, it was all they wanted to eat.

    I’ve attached some pictures of what’s left. They have eaten the radishes almost completely, with only the occasional one here and there left. They are still working on the turnips as you can see, but there are half as many left as there were a week ago, so I have a feeling they will have completely cleaned these up within another week.

    One observation/thought to share. I was thinking a lot of conversations about food plots center around which food the deer like better. This or that. That or this.

    With the way the deer have spent over 4 weeks solid eating in my brassicas plot, I started to think differently about overall attraction vs staying power. The brassicas plot had both attraction and staying power this year. It pulled in up to 14 deer at a time in the evenings, but it also lasted 4 solid weeks for about 1.2 to 1.5 acres. Making the deer work a little for their dinner seemed to really slow them down so the plot remained attractive for the entire season and then some.

    By contrast, I have a rye strip in one plot and a new clover/oats strip in another plot that the deer clearly loved. A lot. When these 2 strips were actively growing in September, the deer preferred these plots and ignored the brassicas completely. But these plots were completely mowed down to the nub by mid October and the interest in my plots was starting to slip. Good thing the brassicas strip was there for them to move on to.

    So lesson learned. From now on, I’ll balance my plot strips so each of the 2 big plots have high attraction strips like grain and peas and also within the same plot, I’ll have strips with longer relative staying power like the brassicas.

    I look forward to next year’s growing season. I’ll be trying some new things, including forage soybeans, ag soybeans, and a new grain mix. I’ve also decided to tweak my Brassicas Bender blend by adding sugar beets and a new rape variety to the mix. I’m looking forward to spring already.

    Grouse

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    sktrwx2200
    Posts: 727
    #1653172

    Wow,
    Wish I could send you up my brassicas so at least they would go to good use! The greens are still standing at 3 ft tall and the softball or bigger roots are waiting for nothing.

    Looks like you are pretty cleaned out. Do you have anything left for when winter really comes… if it ever does?

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11662
    #1653194

    As we’ve discussed, it wasn’t always this way. This is my 4th year of planting and in years 1 and 2, I had a similar experience to you. The brassicas were completely ignored. Last year they started to show some interest, but still left a lot on the table.

    There was an exception. They deer have always liked the rapeseed. Which technically is also a brassicas member. They hunted down the rape early and often. Did you have rape in your blend, by chance? How did the deer like it?

    This year was the first “root ’em out” year where they seemed to attack all the “root brassicas” (turnips and radish) in the plot with a determined vengeance. Of all the things we plant for food plots, brassicas is the one crop that deer don’t dive into right away. The exception seems to be in areas like sugarbeet country in ND / NW MN where the deer are already tuned in to digging for dinner.

    But at the end of the day, I’m becoming convinced there is no “best”. I’m convinced that the strip method is the way to go regardless of what the deer seem to prefer.

    Not to pick on Sticker, but he provided another good reason last year of why not to go “all in” on what your deer seem to prefer. His bean crop got wrecked by a rampant ragweed invasion. Good thing he hadn’t made the mistake of only planting beans.

    This year I had two different landowners, in two different states tell me another one. They got wrecked when their plots flooded out because of unending rain in June and July and that killed off all their spring-planted crops. They both had a near total kill due to plots with standing water. Both landowners had to figure out a Plan B and bear the expense of replanting 100% of their plots.

    Since I’m up in the boreal forest zone, my property has heavy softwoods and all my plots are very sheltered. In a normal winter, with normal snowfall, nothing would stay above the snow for long and no part of the plots blow clean. Unfortunately, I don’t have enough room to plant enough corn to have staying power, it would be stripped down within weeks. Beans may fare better, I’ll see next year.

    But I’m not cleaned out. I have my “grain bins” full of corn. I can fire up the feeder at any time and I’ll add more feeders if I feel the deer or turkeys need it. If necessary, I’ll feed the deer enough that they can live off of the feeders alone, I’m not going to repeat what happened 3 years ago with late storms starving the deer to death in March.

    Grouse

    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1653413

    Great points Grouse! I have been adding new and different plots as the years go by, just for this reason.

    Nitrodog
    Posts: 848
    #1653864

    Looks great, already looking forward to next year.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11662
    #1654937

    Here’s are pictures from Sunday, 12/4 of my brassicas plot. Or, more accurately, what’s left of my brassicas plot. Which is basically nothing.

    The fact that the ground wasn’t frozen until last week certainly helped the deer clean up the plot. They even dug up the radish roots that other deer had snapped off at the top earlier in the season.

    Also attached is a picture of what it looked like back in the summer. Ignore last picture in the series, wrong pic uploaded and that is obviously a rye plot.

    This was my best brassicas planting ever, both in terms of quantity and quality.

    My dad said that the deer have found, dug, and ate ever single edible plant in the entire 1.5 acre plot. He could not find a single turnip or radish. The peas and rape that were part of the plot were gone a long time ago.

    For next year, I’m going to increase the amount of rapeseed in the blend and add an additional variety of giant rapeseed I found last year. But I think I have the seed rate almost perfect, you cannot overcrowd brassicas or you get no bulb mass. I made that mistake before. Yes, it doesn’t look like there’s near enough growing in the plot at first if you think about it like clover where it’s solid green.

    I hope 2017 is even close to this great. Almost a perfect year for food plot crops in my area. Lots of rain covers a multitude of sins.

    Grouse

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    Nitrodog
    Posts: 848
    #1655090

    Looking forward to planting some next year.

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