Grizzly Bears going forward

  • isu22andy
    Posts: 2112
    #2323764

    Not sure if you’re serious or not ? I’m pretty sure the grizz is doing just fine . A rancher I know told me they are pushing out into the plains more than normal . I’ve heard the feds investigate a self defense griz shooting as much as a murder scene .

    ThunderLund78
    Posts: 3015
    #2323769

    If you’re going to re-establish a population, you need to put enough of them there with genetic diversity to breed which requires a lot more home range than one would think. Those kinds of “lonely areas” just aren’t common anymore. Aside from upsetting current predator/prey balances, you’d have a big political fight from any adjacent population centers if you wanted to put Grizzies in someone’s back yard. Any effort short of dressing them all up like big wolves would fall well short.
    (I crack myself up)

    Full draw
    Posts: 1742
    #2323774

    Hunting in Grizzly country that has a season for them is a lot different than hunting in Grizzly country that doesn’t.
    Wyoming and Montana have no shortage of Grizzly bears. Every year their range expands. Every year there are hunters and hikers attacked.

    When I hunted NW of Dubois WY it was eye opening.
    Every morning I seen fresh griz sign.
    I Shot my Bull elk in the evening. By the time we got it deboned it was going on 11 pm. I told my partner we were not coming back to that carcass again. We loaded up packs and headed back to the truck. That was by far the heaviest pack I have ever had on my back.

    One of the areas I hunt coyotes in SD is where Hugh Glass was attacked. The site he was attacked is now under water. It was pretty cool standing on top of the hill reading the monument looking down to where it happened back in the 1800’s.

    smallie83
    Posts: 135
    #2323879

    Hunting in Grizzly country that has a season for them is a lot different than hunting in Grizzly country that doesn’t.
    Wyoming and Montana have no shortage of Grizzly bears. Every year their range expands. Every year there are hunters and hikers attacked.

    When I hunted NW of Dubois WY it was eye opening.
    Every morning I seen fresh griz sign.
    I Shot my Bull elk in the evening. By the time we got it deboned it was going on 11 pm. I told my partner we were not coming back to that carcass again. We loaded up packs and headed back to the truck. That was by far the heaviest pack I have ever had in my back.

    One of the areas I hunt coyotes in SD is where Hugh Glass was attacked. The site he was attacked is now under water. It was pretty cool standing on top of the hill reading the monument looking down to where it happened back in the 1800’s.

    So crazy to read the stories from fur trappers or Lewis and Clark. Would be such a different world to be the hunted. The Lewis and Clark expedition member who jumped in the river to escape a grizzly always stood out to me.

    Pailofperch
    Central Mn North of the smiley water tower
    Posts: 3274
    #2323911

    There are actual current plans to reintroduce Grizzlies to the Northern Cascades in Washington State very soon. There’s also been talks of the Rockies in Co but no plans.
    I had heard about this a few times and a quick search shows many articles and sources.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 19206
    #2323918

    One of the areas I hunt coyotes in SD is where Hugh Glass was attacked.

    The guy from the Revenant?

    Didn’t realize that actually happened. Interesting.

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1997
    #2323931

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Full draw wrote:</div>
    One of the areas I hunt coyotes in SD is where Hugh Glass was attacked.

    The guy from the Revenant?

    Didn’t realize that actually happened. Interesting.

    It happened. Hugh found an old canoe or hallow log and had to float down the river at night to get to a fort, I think on the Missouri. He went at night to stay out of sight of Indians. I think he died a few years later killed by Indians in Montana.

    It’s sad reading about the great plains animals. They were slaughtered off so the whole thing could be turned into a cow pasture, and in very short order.

    Full draw
    Posts: 1742
    #2323934

    Hugh Glass died up where Williston ND is today in 1833. 10 years after that fateful day in SD. Never heard anything about a canoe. But it’s roughly 200 miles from where the attack happened to Fort Kiowa (Fort Thompson) chamberlain SD area.
    If I am not mistaken Revenant was filmed up in Alberta. Oh and in real life he didn’t kill Fitzgerald. If I am not mistaken Fitzgerald joined the army and died in Texas later.

    After discovering the monument and then watching the movie I had did a bunch of research on Hugh Glass.
    Every time I drive by that hill I think of him and that bear. lol

    Full draw
    Posts: 1742
    #2323936

    On a side note I think Grizzlies are very cool. It’s been my dream to hunt a mountain grizzly in Alaska with my bow. Unfortunately I just don’t want to spend the $20,000 + it would cost.

    smallie83
    Posts: 135
    #2323962

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Full draw wrote:</div>
    One of the areas I hunt coyotes in SD is where Hugh Glass was attacked.

    The guy from the Revenant?

    Didn’t realize that actually happened. Interesting.

    If your into reading check out Throne of Grace. About Jebadiah Smith, but a bunch of famous trappers like Glass come in and out of the story. Including Jim Bridger.

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1997
    #2323991

    As far as the canoe, that was directly after the bear attack and he floated down to safety at a fort on the Missouri. He did catch up with the guys who left him in the wilderness but didn’t kill them. Bridger was too young and Tom Hardy was in the army so he was afraid of repercussions from that. And yup, they filmed the movie in Canada which is unfortunate.

    fins
    Posts: 507
    #2323994

    As far as the canoe, that was directly after the bear attack and he floated down to safety at a fort on the Missouri. He did catch up with the guys who left him in the wilderness but didn’t kill them. Bridger was too young and Tom Hardy was in the army so he was afraid of repercussions from that. And yup, they filmed the movie in Canada which is unfortunate.

    Is there a tariff on that movie?

    Deuces
    Posts: 5339
    #2323996

    The American wild most certainly would have been a sight to see in the beginning. Read a couple books of land surveyors from that time that carried no guns. Amazing stories and spectacles to see.

    They never feared for their safety from animals or humans. Embellishment from “adventurers” is certainly no foreign concept at any point in human history. Not taking anything away from folks who set forth into a wild land, but was interesting to read another perspective.

    smallie83
    Posts: 135
    #2324003

    The American wild most certainly would have been a sight to see in the beginning. Read a couple books of land surveyors from that time that carried no guns. Amazing stories and spectacles to see.

    They never feared for their safety from animals or humans. Embellishment from “adventurers” is certainly no foreign concept at any point in human history. Not taking anything away from folks who set forth into a wild land, but was interesting to read another perspective.

    Any idea what those books are called?

    Deuces
    Posts: 5339
    #2324005

    Id have to look, that was a couple house moves ago and there is always a purge with each one. Writer had a chapter, or at least a good part of one specifically on the beaver and how the American landscape had been transformed in many areas by the industrious lil dudes.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 19206
    #2324010

    And yup, they filmed the movie in Canada which is unfortunate.

    I had heard that the filing was in Alberta too.

    It’s not a bad movie TBH

    Deuces
    Posts: 5339
    #2324012

    Did a quick Google smallie, can’t find it, although tbh i might be overlooking it. This was probably 15 or more years ago, back then money was tight and alot of my books were in the public domain and free to download off the internet, which would make the book at least I beleive at that time was 70yrs old or older. Mightve been on my old computer as I don’t recall a paper copy but again, I may be mistaken. I’d enjoy reading it again

    smallie83
    Posts: 135
    #2324022

    Did a quick Google smallie, can’t find it, although tbh i might be overlooking it. This was probably 15 or more years ago, back then money was tight and alot of my books were in the public domain and free to download off the internet, which would make the book at least I beleive at that time was 70yrs old or older. Mightve been on my old computer as I don’t recall a paper copy but again, I may be mistaken. I’d enjoy reading it again

    Ok. Thanks. I love history books and I’m out of anything that really interests me at the moment.

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