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gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
Education is nice, but you don’t need one to be a productive worker.

I agree. Its not for everybody. If you’re working a lot of hours on a seasonal basis, that’s the path you have chosen in life. We’re all adults here and we can make our own beds on a daily basis.

I would personally prefer to have more time off in the spring/summer/fall instead of the winter, but that’s just me.

Those are teachers hours. A typical building and trades guy works 40 to 50 hours all year give or take. That’s the life I like. Work ot when I want.

gizmoguy wrote:

My son is the heavy equipment operator on a road crew. 70 – 80 hours/week May to Nov. He says he needs the winter time off just to recharge his batteries. It would be very difficult to work a full year at that pace.

Also apparently seasonal laid off workers are not required to look for work during the down time.

I was waiting for a operator to join in and let them in on the long weeks is a real thing.

big_g wrote:

Unions had their time and place… some are still relevant today, some have been outpaced and are just burdensome now to already hard working people. I was once in the Union, no thanks, it kept my wages the same as the lazy guy doing 1/4 what I was. I was constantly being told to slow down, do less… etc. Nope, not me. Their moto was the Union works so I don’t have to… they would say this out loud. Just my experience.

X2 – it is Like this is some unions. I know several people who work or have worked for the Airlines, and they will all say the union is far more help to lazy old workers than it is for young hard working ones. There was a time and place for unions but for the most part no one is working in the conditions unions were created to protect ( Union or non union ) Just my .02 worth

Don Meier wrote:

Its not the Unions job to discipline bad employees .

Nope just their job to protect them !!!! I hear about it from people working union jobs all the time

fishthumper wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
Unions had their time and place… some are still relevant today, some have been outpaced and are just burdensome now to already hard working people. I was once in the Union, no thanks, it kept my wages the same as the lazy guy doing 1/4 what I was. I was constantly being told to slow down, do less… etc. Nope, not me. Their moto was the Union works so I don’t have to… they would say this out loud. Just my experience.

X2 – it is Like this is some unions. I know several people who work or have worked for the Airlines, and they will all say the union is far more help to lazy old workers than it is for young hard working ones. There was a time and place for unions but for the most part no one is working in the conditions unions were created to protect ( Union or non union ) Just my .02 worth

Ok now I’m confused. I thought it was the old generation that walk to school in three feet of snow up hill both ways had the strong work ethic and the young generation was the lazy ones.

So B-Man get any IDO takers yet? lol

fishthumper wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Don Meier wrote:</div>
Its not the Unions job to discipline bad employees .

Nope just their job to protect them !!!! I hear about it from people working union jobs all the time

So many different fields. But our union isn’t like that. The weak are sent down the road

Bearcat89 wrote:

So many different fields. But our union isn’t like that. The weak are sent down the road

Yep. There are. I’m sure that many are not like that, but I know the unions for the airlines and the auto workers are know for it. I know Family members and friends who have worked for both. They say the union steps in and protects people they should not all the time.

Trades are a great opportunity to get started in. Grsat to see the opening posted.
27 years as a union Steamfitter, and 22 years as a union welding instructor for night school fror our apprentices.
Trade unions are not like other unions. If you are not productive, a contrator can lay you off at any time.
That is why we fund our training school, classes offered for apprentices and Journeyman to keep your skill base up, as new processes are being used.
You get paid well, good benefits, for a highly skilled job.
Its not for everyone, long hours, and not always pleasnt conditions.
The labor unions of auto makers/manufactiring are of no comparison.
Teachers union in my area, they can choose to have the salary paid out for the school year, or for 12 months. So they have a check coming in over the summer.
Thats why people think they are being paid when off.
Best move i made was beacming a union Steamfitter. may not be for someone else.

WOW!
Just wow!
What a great thread.

I’d love to drink at a campfire with y’all.
Some of ya are wrong, some are right, some speculating, some ain’t even close.

All I know is I’ve busted my ass and an 80 hour work week is for girls.
My body is not a pile of scrap, I’ll it’s “fun train” to the finish line for me and retirement is not in my vocabulary.

At the campfire I can explain why I can explain it.

When I joined the trades the union was the best choice for me. I joined at 18. And I’m sure glad I did. I have been treated great. Moved right up to a speciality bracket and I get to do alot of high profile jobs. Haven’t driven a personal vehicle to work in 12 years. I don’t regret it at all and I doubt any young person coming in to the industry will either.

Eelpoutguy wrote:

WOW!
Just wow!
What a great thread.

I’d love to drink at a campfire with y’all.
Some of ya are wrong, some are right, some speculating, some ain’t even close.

All I know is I’ve busted my ass and an 80 hour work week is for girls.
My body is not a pile of scrap, I’ll it’s “fun train” to the finish line for me and retirement is not in my vocabulary.

At the campfire I can explain why I can explain it.

Retirement is in my vocabulary, I can let go at 52 with a great income to come for the rest of my days. And any day I work past that only adds to it. Our Healthcare is top notch and now they opened a few new clinics and dentists for laborers only, 100 percent free of charge. That’s pretty damn top notch.
Oh and I’d drink with you at a fire any day of the week. Or at the bar while ripping tabs

BC
We need to Git-R-Dun this year!

bigcrappie wrote:

….Get a education and make some real money working 40 hour weeks LOL

So much irony in this ^^^^

The “a education” for one, and “real money” for two.

A lot of guys in the construction trades work 40-55 hour weeks. Seasonal guys typically (try to) work more per week when they can to literally “make hay when the sun is shining.”

Some companies do consider six day work weeks a standard thing. I will never work for one that does.

Our company plans on four twelves and one ten (Friday) and virtually zero weekend work from April to Thanksgiving. That’s a 58 hour week on paper, but it doesn’t happen a large part of the time.

Rain days, equipment breakdowns, logistics issues, early completions, waning daylight, etc, etc, all come into play and wreck the best of plans on a regular basis.

Very few people in our industry have 80 hour weeks consistently. Does it happen? Yes. Is it the norm? No. Would I work 70-80 hours a week on a regular basis? Nope….not a fricken chance

Our work is outside. Rain days happen.

It’s not that we’re scared of the rain…it’s just the simple fact that you can’t build roads out of mud.

As for the “real money”?

I’ve always made more money than my wife who is college educated and a successful person. She’s finally catching up and hopefully surpasses me when she becomes a nurse practitioner next year.

Some guys would wince at the thought of their wife making the same or more money than they are. I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum and have been encouraging and FUNDING my wife to do so lol

The biggest difference between us is I don’t have student debt, I’ve made a mountain more money over the years than she has, I get paid to go to classes, and I get four months a year off

bigcrappie wrote:

So B-Man get any IDO takers yet? lol

I have

We have a few interviews setup through here and more elsewhere

Our “college educated” recruiter has been struggling to get applicants.

I took it on personally here, through Facebook and through word of mouth by calling around.

In the last week alone I’ve had three times as many applicants than she has had in the last two months lol

I’m also looking for a heavy equipment operator, preferably an experienced utility operator familiar with digging pipe in medium sized equipment (320, 330, 336+ sized backhoes)

I have a difficult time with the idea of stating a career where a government handout for 4 months is part of the equation. That government handout over the course of a career will add up to significantly more than paying off many people’s student debts. I am not in favor of people living off the government in either situation. People should work for their money and if they don’t work in the winter they should not be getting paid.

Hey B-man where is your company based out of? Just curious as I’m a paver operator and screedman for a company in the southern metro. Maybe we’ve crossed paths.

walleye216 wrote:

I have a difficult time with the idea of stating a career where a government handout for 4 months is part of the equation. That government handout over the course of a career will add up to significantly more than paying off many people’s student debts. I am not in favor of people living off the government in either situation. People should work for their money and if they don’t work in the winter they should not be getting paid.

It’s not a handout. Every employer is paying the unemployment tax. If you never collect it great, but then where does that money end up? I’m a union 49er in the paving industry and I put in a lot of 60-70 hr. weeks 6-7 days a week. Everyone’s different but I absolutely need time off in the winter to start feeling human again! If we did this year round 40-50 hr weeks would have to be the norm.

walleye216 wrote:

I have a difficult time with the idea of stating a career where a government handout for 4 months is part of the equation. That government handout over the course of a career will add up to significantly more than paying off many people’s student debts. I am not in favor of people living off the government in either situation. People should work for their money and if they don’t work in the winter they should not be getting paid.

It’s very clear you do not understand how employers pay unemployment insurance based on their unemployment rates in a given year.

It’s also very clear you do not use or appreciate public roads, water, sewer, power, internet or natural gas in Minnesota, or have a grasp on how and when they all can be installed, maintained and replaced.

If it weren’t for our employers paying in for unemployment insurance no one in their right mind would do what we do here.

It’s the coldest state in the country, with far more infrastructure than any other comparable state in our northern climate.

Our industry is begging for workers, even with a “government handout” in the winter (when the vast majority of our WORK CANNOT BE DONE). Frost is like digging through bedrock. Frost that is broken up and backfilled with creates a huge issue once thawed (since it cannot be compacted)

The only thing winter is good for here is mucking out our salt filled ponds.

Right now it’s largely an hourly based industry (and always has been). Until it becomes a salary based wage, it will stay the way it is.

If you think our roads and infrastructure are shitty now, imagine not seeing a traffic cone or barricade for the next 100 years.

Minnesota has 135,000 MILES of roads…not to mention the utilities that provide us all with the creature comforts that come with them.

Without guys like me and many others, your office thermostat would read -30 below, have no internet, no lights, no water, no road to get home, and a huge pile of frozen feces in your cubicle lol

I’m happy to take a few months off from busting my ass to sit at home and enjoy those comforts I provided to you and myself

I never said I don’t appreciate roads or similar infrastructure. The people who work on those things should be paid appropriately while they are doing that work. I don’t agree with people collecting unemployment as a career choice year after year. There are plenty of employers that hire seasonal help in the winter too.

walleye216 wrote:

I never said I don’t appreciate roads or similar infrastructure. The people who work on those things should be paid appropriately while they are doing that work. I don’t agree with people collecting unemployment as a career choice year after year. There are plenty of employers that hire seasonal help in the winter too.

WOW! let me guess, you sit at a desk punching your keyboard and running out of $hit to google? probably on salary working more than 40 hours per week and not being compensated for it…..bummer. you are picking a fight in the wrong parking lot.

eyeguy507 wrote:

WOW! let me guess, you sit at a desk punching your keyboard and running out of $hit to google? probably on salary working more than 40 hours per week and not being compensated for it…..bummer. you are picking a fight in the wrong parking lot.

WOW! do you get that mad at everybody that doesnt have the same opinion or beliefs as you?

B-man wrote:

I took it on personally here, through Facebook and through word of mouth by calling around.

In the last week alone I’ve had three times as many applicants than she has had in the last two months

Nice job. It can’t be easy finding any workers right now. I know I wouldn’t be able to do the seasonal construction gig on a full time basis, year after year. I spent a couple summers in college doing residential construction (roofing, siding, windows, etc) and I can legitimately say that I did not enjoy it. The pay was good and working outside was fine most days, but it was just back breaking work.

Prior to COVID and special assessments I’m curious to the UI tax rate these seasonal companies would be paying.

Don’t know the exact rate but would guess it’s high. Rates are calculated on how often a companies employees go on unemployment.