Still quite a few that aren’t rowing the boat yet.
This is going to be a tough game against Iowa. They’re coming off a tough loss to the badgers and have nothing to lose here. I gotta imagine that this game is going to be every bit as difficult as the Penn State game. Coming off a huge win teams always seem to have that big win hangover.
I think if the gophers win it’ll be a greatly underrated win.
Not a good 1st Qtr. so far.
Turning it around!
Like the fight they’re showing after digging a hole early. But PJ’s unsportsmanlike call was bruuuutal. You just can’t do that, period. I thought the refs threw the flag pretty quickly against Iowa so what is he doing running on to the field anyway?
Like the fight they’re showing after digging a hole early. But PJ’s unsportsmanlike call was bruuuutal. You just can’t do that, period. I thought the refs threw the flag pretty quickly against Iowa so what is he doing running on to the field anyway?
it was an after the play penalty on Iowa, so PJ’s penalty had no effect other than 15 yards for Iowa, Iowa would have got the ball anyways if Fleck didn’t run on the field.
Pretty ELITE move to run onto the field like that for Fleck.
I think they’re one of the best teams in the Big10, but not in the country.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>tangler wrote:</div>
Like the fight they’re showing after digging a hole early. But PJ’s unsportsmanlike call was bruuuutal. You just can’t do that, period. I thought the refs threw the flag pretty quickly against Iowa so what is he doing running on to the field anyway?it was an after the play penalty on Iowa, so PJ’s penalty had no effect other than 15 yards for Iowa, Iowa would have got the ball anyways if Fleck didn’t run on the field.
Thanks for the clarification on that rule. If that’s the case then I think that was a terrible call. It’s a late hit, it’s part of the play, not a dead ball unrelated thing after the play was over? My 2 cents anyway.
Ultimately they just got outplayed today by a solid team on the road. Having a kicker would help.
Go gophs! Regroup and finish strong.
Brutal loss no doubt but understandable. Big emotional win last week . Tough opponent on their home field. They looked FLAT first half. Second half they came out with purpose. Then that critical running out on the field. Emotional coach emotional re-action.
I can be a little detached because Gophers are my 2nd favorite. Last year the Buckeyes were demolished by Purdue. Ruined their chances for a playoff bid.So I know exactly how you all feel.
I think they will right the ship and finish the march to west division champion. Then I don’t know OSU-Minn in Big 10 championship. Going to be torn for me on rooting . Ohio being my home state will win out. But I can honestly say I would be happy no matter who prevails.
One consolation at least you aren’t Michigan.
They’re 9-1. Finally lost against a very good team at their place coming off of a tough loss. Much better than the rubes in this thread predicted. I’m sure we’ll see them now. The penalty by Fleck had no bearing on the game whatsoever.
Iowa’s D-line was incredible and in my opinion was the deciding factor. The inability to put a ball through the uprights played a factor as well.
They need a win next week against NW. can’t look past next week.
Looks like the bilge pump crapped out…..
She’s taking on water 
I have a feeling that the Wisconsin-Minnesota game on Nov 30 is going to decide who gets the right to get clobbered by Ohio State in the big ten championship.
Lots to be frustrated about from this game but I just came across this from the internets: The Gophers just went 364 days without a loss.
PJ’s loss column… team came out flat in first half which is a coaching issue as much as anything, his unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, miscommunication/timeout with his Sophomore quarterback late in 4th quarter.
Team has a ways to go to become “elite” and so does the coach…
Good game by the Gophers I thought. Great to see them battle back when they got down early. That’s what good coaches do, they make adjustments and not let the game snowball
Too bad about that dropped pass late in the 3rd. Gophers were going in for the score and that was a pivotal point in the game.
Looking for a good response next week…. 10-1 sounds pretty good to me
They’re 9-1. Finally lost against a very good team at their place coming off of a tough loss. Much better than the rubes in this thread predicted. I’m sure we’ll see them now. The penalty by Fleck had no bearing on the game whatsoever.
Iowa’s D-line was incredible and in my opinion was the deciding factor. The inability to put a ball through the uprights played a factor as well.
They need a win next week against NW. can’t look past next week.
It may have had no bearing on the game besides a few yards of field position, but when have you ever seen a coach sprint onto the field like that?
I think it shows more about his lack of awareness of the situation than anything. It was in the 4th quarter of a close game, and he takes a bad penalty. I don’t think he’d take kindly to one of his players taking a penalty like that at that point in the game. He looked way more pissed after his new kicker missed a Hail Mary 50 yard FG than he did of his own poor decision to run onto the field for no reason.
coaching issue as much as anything
Team has a ways to go to become “elite”
The Gophers, at 9-1, are still in the drivers seat for their first Rose bowl appearance since 1962 and people around here are still going to complain. Of course they are
I disagreed with his decision to attempt that 50 yarder very early on but had no problem with his decisions to kick the field goal as half expired or going for it on 4th and 5 in the red zone later in the 4th. The stupid penalty cost them nothing but a few yards. Fleck was far from the reason they lost yesterday.
9-1 is no small feat and hoping for a perfect season is an unrealistic expectation.
Iowa is a really good team at home with a great run defense and the Gophers had chances to change the outcome on several occasions throughout the game. It’s easy to second guess play calls and decisions in any game but I’m not critical of their play or the coaching. They played hard and fought until the end, performed a a high level throughout the game and most if not every team will have a game throughout the year where they just come out a bit flat for whatever reason. Forget this game, learn from the loss and dwell only on the game next week.
Row the Boat!
It may have had no bearing on the game besides a few yards of field position, but when have you ever seen a coach sprint onto the field like that?
I think it shows more about his lack of awareness of the situation than anything. It was in the 4th quarter of a close game, and he takes a bad penalty. I don’t think he’d take kindly to one of his players taking a penalty like that at that point in the game. He looked way more pissed after his new kicker missed a Hail Mary 50 yard FG than he did of his own poor decision to run onto the field for no reason.
It had no bearing on the game. What else matters? You really hate PJ don’t you?
I’ll give them a pass for yesterdays loss.
They have 2 big games in front of them, next week will test their Character.
Kick NW’s a$$ next week and them come back strong against WI and all is good.
Yesterday’s game had dropped passes and bad kicks – that happens.
Fleck running out on the field and issues with time management are unacceptable.
Kinda confused here, because of the jumping all over PJ Fleck. Just looked up Minnesota Gopher football record since 1953 when they joined the big 10 conference.
What I seen was to put it politely way below average winning football. Fleck has turned the team around pdq. Is he perfect nope but what coach is ? The Alabama coach is catching heat right now for his quarterback’s season ending injury. Anyone want to question his qualifications ?
Sure the loss is bitter but to rag on the coach is a bit short sighted. As of right now in the 66 years of Gopher Big 10 football history. Fleck has them standing potentially for their most successful season in their big 10 history.
Short of Ohio State Iowa has one of the Big ten’s best defense. Even though the Gophers were flat the first half. They lost by a slim margin of 4 points.
There were several dropped passes and missed kicks that PJ had no hand in. Those had more affect on the outcome than the run on the field blunder.
Don’t know how much you guys know about MAC football. Around here we refer to it as the cradle of coaches. PJ had success in this conference which speaks volumes about his coaching acumen. Which probably had a lot to do with why Minnesota hired him in the first place. As for me I will keep my oar in hand.
Papa,
If your from MN there shouldn’t be any confusion. The Gophers haven’t been good in over 50 years. 50 years! As a fan we have seen the next “great coach” walk thru the doors quite a few times only to fail.
I’m hoping Fleck is the real deal, I really do, but fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, we won’t get fooled again. but we have many times.
There were several dropped passes and missed kicks that PJ had no hand in. Those had more affect on the outcome than the run on the field blunder.
Agree, and if you credit Iowa’s d-line for deflecting numerous passes, one of which would’ve been a touchdown, the W was hanging on a thread for either team to take.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bassh8er wrote:</div>
It may have had no bearing on the game besides a few yards of field position, but when have you ever seen a coach sprint onto the field like that?I think it shows more about his lack of awareness of the situation than anything. It was in the 4th quarter of a close game, and he takes a bad penalty. I don’t think he’d take kindly to one of his players taking a penalty like that at that point in the game. He looked way more pissed after his new kicker missed a Hail Mary 50 yard FG than he did of his own poor decision to run onto the field for no reason.
It had no bearing on the game. What else matters? You really hate PJ don’t you?
Obviously not as much as you seem to adore him.
It took Iowa from their own 7 out to the 22; that’s a lot of yards at a critical point in a critical game.
To each their own, good luck to the Gophers on their remaining games.
What did people think about doing an on-side with 3:26 to go? The right timing, or too soon but they had to because lack of timeouts left?
What did people think about doing an on-side with 3:26 to go? The right timing, or too soon but they had to because lack of timeouts left?
I didn’t agree with the call.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FryDog62 wrote:</div>
What did people think about doing an on-side with 3:26 to go? The right timing, or too soon but they had to because lack of timeouts left?I didn’t agree with the call.
At that point, it was going to take some type of big play to win the game. I like the onside kick there. I think your probability of recovering that is higher than stopping Iowa immediately with only 1 timeout AND then driving the majority of the length of the field AND scoring a TD which was something they had struggled with in the red zone all night.
The use of timeouts and late audibles or calls from the sideline with the playclock winding down are far more questionable than the onside kick. They looked exactly like an offensive unit that had not been behind in a close game… because they hadn’t up until that point.
The game against UW is going to be for a whole lot now. On Wisconsin! 
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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FryDog62 wrote:</div>
What did people think about doing an on-side with 3:26 to go? The right timing, or too soon but they had to because lack of timeouts left?I didn’t agree with the call.
At that point, it was going to take some type of big play to win the game. I like the onside kick there. I think your probability of recovering that is higher than stopping Iowa immediately with only 1 timeout AND then driving the majority of the length of the field AND scoring a TD which was something they had struggled with in the red zone all night.
The use of timeouts and late audibles or calls from the sideline with the playclock winding down are far more questionable than the onside kick. They looked exactly like an offensive unit that had not been behind in a close game… because they hadn’t up until that point.
The game against UW is going to be for a whole lot now. On Wisconsin!
I disagree, with about a 15% success rate, I would have tried to pin Iowa back as far as I could.
I do agree the MN v. WI is shaping up to to an epic one.
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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>eelpoutguy wrote:</div>
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FryDog62 wrote:</div>
What did people think about doing an on-side with 3:26 to go? The right timing, or too soon but they had to because lack of timeouts left?I didn’t agree with the call.
At that point, it was going to take some type of big play to win the game. I like the onside kick there. I think your probability of recovering that is higher than stopping Iowa immediately with only 1 timeout AND then driving the majority of the length of the field AND scoring a TD which was something they had struggled with in the red zone all night.
The use of timeouts and late audibles or calls from the sideline with the playclock winding down are far more questionable than the onside kick. They looked exactly like an offensive unit that had not been behind in a close game… because they hadn’t up until that point.
The game against UW is going to be for a whole lot now. On Wisconsin!
I disagree, with about a 15% success rate, I would have tried to pin Iowa back as far as I could.
I do agree the MN v. WI is shaping up to to an epic one.
It’s a tough call either way. I don’t think it’s a decision Fleck can be faulted for even if there is only a 15% success rate on average for onside kicks. There’s not a measurable probability for doing ALL of the following successfully either (but it can’t be much greater than 15%):
1. Getting a 3 and out with only one timeout
2. Driving a majority of the length of the field with no timeouts after a stop
3. Converting in the red zone when it was their biggest struggle the entire day.
In the end, Minnesota still has everything ahead of them. They were not a college football playoff team or a top 5 team in the country no matter how biased of a view a fan could have. The Gophers and Badgers are both top end Big 10 teams who should be competitive in a New Years Bowl game. I’ve got tickets with a group of friends for the matchup and expect a dogfight of a game. Here’s to hoping it’s not some stupid 11am kickoff!
It’s a tough call either way. I don’t think it’s a decision Fleck can be faulted for even if there is only a 15% success rate on average for onside kicks.
Even with that success rate I agree with what you said and I typically agree with that decision during games. At that point in the game with no timeouts you’ve gotta stop them or maybe give up at most 1 first down, and that’s all regardless of field position. It’s a gamble but no as a high school football alum who watches lots of football from my couch I do not think the professional college football coach who makes millions by those who trust him to do so I don’t disagree with it.
If you think Gopher fans have heard it all. I am a lifelong Browns fan.
As a collective we have heard every promise you can think of.
I might not live in Minnesota but I know a snowstorm when I see it. As in the famous retort ” if B.S. was snow the Browns front office would be a blizzard . ”
But that is a whole nother story
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