Good News

A widely available and relatively cheap drug, Dexamethasone, has been proven to help treat Covid 19 in very sick patients, according to British health officials.

Additionally, retail sales are up 17.4% in May, and there is talk of a $1 trillion infrastructure spending bill.

All this good news on a Tuesday and financial markets have responded, stocks are soaring.

Everything can help! Good news is good news! Probably nobody will care since it is good news. Thanks for posting

I can’t even stand to watch the market anymore lol

It will drop 8% this Thursday and shoot up 9% next Tuesday

I just hope it stabilizes sometime in the next 20 years

B-man wrote:

I just hope it stabilizes sometime in the next 20 years

I hope it does it faster than that… In 329 days I will be RETIRED come what may!!!

i read that too. also read an article that said people under 20 are half as likely to get or have symptoms of covid. also good news for the kids in this world.

On a side note im currently taking a statistics class as im going back for a masters degree and it has me really looking hard at these articles to try and check their sources and find out the validity of the statistics they use.

On a side note im currently taking a statistics class as im going back for a masters degree and it has me really looking hard at these articles to try and check their sources and find out the validity of the statistics they use.

At some point they will teach you, figures don’t lie if liars don’t figure.

There are wars being fought with statistics right now. All laws/policies, etc are based on statistics of one form or another.

slowpoke wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>B-man wrote:</div>
I just hope it stabilizes sometime in the next 20 years

I hope it does it faster than that… In 329 days I will be RETIRED come what may!!!

Congrats!!

crappie55369 wrote:

On a side note im currently taking a statistics class as im going back for a masters degree

Good for you. Always yearn to learn. Happy for you.

Must be fake news . My commander in chief swears by a different drug

Tom Sawvell wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
On a side note im currently taking a statistics class as im going back for a masters degree

Good for you. Always yearn to learn. Happy for you.

Thanks Tom. At this rate it will take me 8 years to complete it but hard going with 3 young boys at home. As Socrates once said

“The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing”

Yes, good news. Excited to see how it works in wider use. Very cheap, very easy to administer, very few side effects. ICU I am in is making plans to try it ASAP

Good for you on furthering your education crappie, always worth it in the end

Yes, very good news. Cheap steroid with few side effects. I just hope they can ramp up the manufacturing to meet needs.

crappie55369 wrote:

On a side note im currently taking a statistics class as im going back for a masters degree and it has me really looking hard at these articles to try and check their sources and find out the validity of the statistics they use.

Stats are surprisingly enjoyable classes. Helps you pick out some of the flawed and biased data displayed in the media. And you’ll never waste your money on gambling again now that you have an understanding of how to factor the odds of winning.

But will Donny T ween himself off the Hydroxychloroquine and get on this trendy med?

eyeguy507 wrote:

But will Donny T ween himself off the Hydroxychloroquine and get on this trendy med?

Depends on how much shame and blame our wonderful boys and girls in the honest media put on him. Btw: All lives matter (wonder if I’ll get fired from my job today for that comment), because all life does matter regardless.

I would bet good money that he was never on it. When he said he was it was during a speech about how effective it is and it seemed like he just threw it out there as evidence of how effective it is. Off the cuff comment by a pathological liar. Even the doctor’s statement afterwards didn’t say he was on it, just that they had discussed the risks and benefits. The doc probably gave him a baby aspirin or a vitamin to shut him up

crappie55369 wrote:

i read that too. also read an article that said people under 20 are half as likely to get or have symptoms of covid. also good news for the kids in this world.

On a side note im currently taking a statistics class as im going back for a masters degree and it has me really looking hard at these articles to try and check their sources and find out the validity of the statistics they use.

Congratulations and good luck on furthering your education. Statistics are complicated and vital in many fields. The toughest part (as with most academic subjects) is applying it to your profession or just everyday life. Terms like P-value, confidence intervals, supiorority, inferiority, noninferiority and significance just aren’t everyday terms. As pharmacy students and residents rotate through our department, reading recently published studies and determining validity based on the statistics is essential to the job. If they cannot prove their life’s work through the statistics then no matter how much they believe in the subject matter, it cannot be safely relied on. We are not all that different Crappie. Good Luck.

gim wrote:

A widely available and relatively cheap drug, Dexamethasone, has been proven to help treat Covid 19 in very sick patients, according to British health officials.

Additionally, retail sales are up 17.4% in May, and there is talk of a $1 trillion infrastructure spending bill.

All this good news on a Tuesday and financial markets have responded, stocks are soaring.

While this is no doubt good news. It is not a game changer in the treatment of COVID or any other respiratory illness. I can assure you that anyone in the ICU suffering of COVID has been given a parenteral form of corticosteroid (likely methylprednisolone or dexamethasone). This is standard treatment for any type on respiratory inflammation. But is always good to know that what we are using is actually making a difference.

downside to a news outlet report like this means our wholesalers will now be out of it because of overzealous ordering. “toilet paper effect”

joe-winter wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
i read that too. also read an article that said people under 20 are half as likely to get or have symptoms of covid. also good news for the kids in this world.

On a side note im currently taking a statistics class as im going back for a masters degree and it has me really looking hard at these articles to try and check their sources and find out the validity of the statistics they use.

Congratulations and good luck on furthering your education. Statistics are complicated and vital in many fields. The toughest part (as with most academic subjects) is applying it to your profession or just everyday life. Terms like P-value, confidence intervals, supiorority, inferiority, noninferiority and significance just aren’t everyday terms. As pharmacy students and residents rotate through our department, reading recently published studies and determining validity based on the statistics is essential to the job. If they cannot prove their life’s work through the statistics then no matter how much they believe in the subject matter, it cannot be safely relied on. We are not all that different Crappie. Good Luck.

Thanks Joe! I cant say ill develop a passion for it but i think im realizing for the first time how instrumental statistics are in decisions that companies and governments make all that time that directly effect our lives. Its kinda of crazy to think about. Even crazier to think about how many decisions are made based off of faulty or flawed data.

Ive taken a ton of classes in my 38 years but this is my first stats class. Fascinating to learn about.

Both fascinating and frustrating. You are soooooo right on the scariness of decisions made based on faulty data . See autism and vaccines, etc, etc.

interesting to see students responses after they give a presentation on a review of an article. “You mean after all the work I did reviewing, typing, presenting on this article. We can’t use its results”.

Sorry but you get full credit for the review.

If this is a new remedy it’s just in time for Minnesota’s big hike in cases and hospitalizations.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/17/mn_governor_quietly_reverses_course_on_hydroxychloroquine__143978.html

munchy wrote:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/17/mn_governor_quietly_reverses_course_on_hydroxychloroquine__143978.html

I wish the quote from Dr. Scott Jensen was earlier in the article so I would have known not to bother reading it. While the right-winger article and people like Rush are making it sound like Walz now supports hydroxychloroquine and he is keeping it quiet because he is democrat, what he said is he is lifting the restrictions because it has been proven that the drug is not an effective treatment for COVID-19 which has caused demand for the drug to go down. I guess the could mean he secretly supports hydroxychloroquine.

Forget hydroxychloroquine. I thought the new miracle drug is Oleandrin that is being pushed by weirdo Mike Lindell?

Fish To Escape wrote:

I would bet good money that he was never on it. When he said he was it was during a speech about how effective it is and it seemed like he just threw it out there as evidence of how effective it is. Off the cuff comment by a pathological liar. Even the doctor’s statement afterwards didn’t say he was on it, just that they had discussed the risks and benefits. The doc probably gave him a baby aspirin or a vitamin to shut him up

If we give you a baby aspirin will you shut up?

gim wrote:

A widely available and relatively cheap drug, Dexamethasone, has been proven to help treat Covid 19 in very sick patients, according to British health officials.

Additionally, retail sales are up 17.4% in May, and there is talk of a $1 trillion infrastructure spending bill.

All this good news on a Tuesday and financial markets have responded, stocks are soaring.

The MN covid numbers have been trending down too. Fingers crossed.

suzuki wrote:

The MN covid numbers have been trending down too. Fingers crossed.

I think its going to be a “slow burn” until there’s herd immunity or a safe, reliable vaccine. There will be waves of outbreak. Just my 2 cents

gim wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>
The MN covid numbers have been trending down too. Fingers crossed.

I think its going to be a “slow burn” until there’s herd immunity or a safe, reliable vaccine. There will be waves of outbreak. Just my 2 cents

No doubt in my mind we will reach damn near full herd immunity a month before the vaccine comes out…….. Only to witness mandates and restrictions on access to things if you haven’t received the vaccine.

Don’t worry. Joe Biden will fix everything, from his basement

gim wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>
The MN covid numbers have been trending down too. Fingers crossed.

I think its going to be a “slow burn” until there’s herd immunity or a safe, reliable vaccine. There will be waves of outbreak. Just my 2 cents

Crappie here’s a good thread with some interesting stats in regards to herd immunity.

one of the big questions on covid right now is "did we hit herd immunity or is this just seasonality?"

i think we have, in most places, hit herd immunity and i think i found an interesting way to test it.

louisiana provides a great test case because their COV came out of season pic.twitter.com/CL0iE1e6zP

— el gato malo (@boriquagato) August 18, 2020

joe-winter wrote:

No doubt in my mind we will reach damn near full herd immunity a month before the vaccine comes out…….. Only to witness mandates and restrictions on access to things if you haven’t received the vaccine.

That probably depends on when the vaccine is available too. When there’s one first available, I’m guessing there won’t be enough of it to get to everyone that wants one. It will take a while to reach desired distribution levels, even though they’re already making some of it before its been approved.

If you’re employer requires it, take it up with them. If a school requires it, take it up the with school district. I highly doubt that there will be a statewide mandate stating that you can’t go into any public setting unless you’ve been vaccinated Joe.