Nice drive by Green Bay! Dillon doing things and Reed looking solid. Go Pack Go!
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BeastPosts: 1121December 11, 2023 at 9:42 pm #2241222
Joe Barry still sucks as a defensive coordinator, this is the third time he’s had a linebacker cover a receiver, no stunts, no linebacker blitz, he needs to go.
MX1825Posts: 3319December 11, 2023 at 10:17 pm #2241225Joe Barry still sucks as a defensive coordinator, this is the third time he’s had a linebacker cover a receiver, no stunts, no linebacker blitz, he needs to go.
I agree. The Giants QB is making Barry’s defense look like untrained monkeys.
BeastPosts: 1121December 11, 2023 at 10:24 pm #22412261;33 was left old joe goes into prevent defense and giants go down the field for the winning FG, seen it coming all the way.
BeastPosts: 1121WildlifeguyPosts: 384December 11, 2023 at 10:51 pm #2241231I think LeFleur should call a few more reverses to Jayden Reed. Hell, make them triple flea flickers, that oughta work…
December 11, 2023 at 11:38 pm #2241232I thought this game would be a problem for the Pack. I didn’t expect the Giants to be so error-prone or Love to play so poorly. Interesting match-up next week vs. the Buc’s at Lambert. It doesn’t look like cold weather will be a factor. I think if they lose next week, their playoff chances are done. There are too many teams in the race right now for them to falter even once. I wouldn’t even call the match-up with the lowly Panthers a gimme. They lost a gimme tonight.
December 12, 2023 at 7:09 am #2241245That late so-called NYG fumble was a non-contact gift right when they were about to ice the game.
Was nice to see NY put the game & pack away in the end.
Went to sleep with a smileJohn TimmPosts: 358December 12, 2023 at 7:28 am #2241248This season is getting to be more like which team sucks less, Vikings or Packers?
SylvanboatPosts: 982December 12, 2023 at 8:07 am #2241257Late surge could put the Bears in the playoff hunt. Go Bears!!!
December 12, 2023 at 9:18 am #2241272That late so-called NYG fumble was a non-contact gift right when they were about to ice the game.
Yeah the refs were doing everything in their power to get GB the win, per the usual. That fumble call was terrible, first of all he was tackled by a Packer, secondly he gave himself up when he went down. That Giants team is bad, but the DeVito crew sure is entertaining.
riverbassmanPosts: 255December 12, 2023 at 9:33 am #2241279<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jerry K wrote:</div>
That late so-called NYG fumble was a non-contact gift right when they were about to ice the game.Yeah the refs were doing everything in their power to get GB the win, per the usual. That fumble call was terrible, first of all he was tackled by a Packer, secondly he gave himself up when he went down. That Giants team is bad, but the DeVito crew sure is entertaining.
Call it all like you want, but you cant say that fumble was the wrong call. Saying that was the wrong call after all the slow mo replay shows it was legit. i have no problem with anyone pointing out bad calls as the refs suck sometimes but in this case it is plain ignorance to say it was a bad call.
December 12, 2023 at 9:36 am #2241282Call it all like you want, but you cant say that fumble was the wrong call. Saying that was the wrong call after all the slow mo replay shows it was legit. i have no problem with anyone pointing out bad calls as the refs suck sometimes but in this case it is plain ignorance to say it was a bad call.
How was that a legit fumble? The Packer player attempted to tackle Barkley, and he fell like 4-5 steps after the Packer player hit him. His knee, elbow and most of his body was on the ground (giving himself up, if you don’t count the tackle, as a tackle) prior to the ball coming out.
December 12, 2023 at 12:35 pm #2241347Amazingly, Green Bay is still in the 7 hole for a playoff spot. And I think they will claim that final playoff spot too when its all said and done.
They have a relatively easy schedule in their remaining four games so they should be able to hold off the other teams still in contention for that spot. Seattle, LA Rams, and Tampa/New Orleans/Atlanta are the competition for that spot. They have tie breakers over Seattle, Rams, and Saints. They lost to Atlanta and still play Tampa.
December 12, 2023 at 5:57 pm #2241428It was a fumble on Barkley because it was the call on the field. The video evidence was indecisive IMO. The 4th Down stop that got reversed by replay that led to Green Bay’s first touchdown DID NOT HAVE clear and indisputable proof to overturn the call on the field. That overturn of possession was unconscionable.
The Pack are not the same Offense without Watson. It won’t surprise me a bit if they lose every game while he is out. They are extremely vulnerable without him. If they lose one of their next 3 games, which is likely with Watson being sidelined I don’t see them beating the Bears all things being equal. If the Pack loses one of their final 4, they are going to lose two or more. They are on a tightrope and it’s windy. Love cracks is my prediction. Saw it last night and therefore expect it now.
December 13, 2023 at 9:46 am #2241518Watson’s absence didn’t make Love inaccurate and over-throw open WRs in the first three quarters of that game. he looked too amped or something: rushing throws and just plain missing guys who were wide open. it stunk, but i chalk that up to a bad game after a couple of superb outings. this year is all about learning and getting better, not about a Super Bowl or even playoff run.
the defense did plenty well enough in that game. at one point in the first half the offense had turned it over on 2 straight possessions and the defense still got the ball back to the offense with the lead in hand. they got worn down late and made some wrong calls on scheme for that last drive – but the other guys are good at their jobs too. the Packers average points against so far this year is 20.1, and average yards against is 342.1, placing them 14th in both categories so dead middle of the NFL defensively. the problem is that they’re good against the pass and terrible against the run, so a guy like Barkley (and DeVito scrambling) can eat them up on the ground for 200+ yards.
MX1825Posts: 3319December 14, 2023 at 12:15 am #2241662Watson’s absence didn’t make Love inaccurate and over-throw open WRs in the first three quarters of that game. he looked too amped or something: rushing throws and just plain missing guys who were wide open. it stunk, but i chalk that up to a bad game after a couple of superb outings. this year is all about learning and getting better, not about a Super Bowl or even playoff run.
the defense did plenty well enough in that game. at one point in the first half the offense had turned it over on 2 straight possessions and the defense still got the ball back to the offense with the lead in hand. they got worn down late and made some wrong calls on scheme for that last drive – but the other guys are good at their jobs too. the Packers average points against so far this year is 20.1, and average yards against is 342.1, placing them 14th in both categories so dead middle of the NFL defensively. the problem is that they’re good against the pass and terrible against the run, so a guy like Barkley (and DeVito scrambling) can eat them up on the ground for 200+ yards.
It comes back to Barry and his “prevent” scheme. Apparently Barry figures the oppositions kicker should miss the FG.
December 14, 2023 at 10:30 am #2241712It comes back to Barry and his “prevent” scheme. Apparently Barry figures the oppositions kicker should miss the FG.
Notably, they didn’t have Jaire Alexander available for that game, and Nixon’s play hadn’t been reliable during the game.
LaFleur on the final drive:
“We obviously gave up too many chunk plays, lost our leverage twice and gave up, like I said explosive plays. Explosive plays lead to points… it was just bad ball.”
“Joe called man coverage, and we’re playing way off, which we shouldn’t be.”
BeastPosts: 1121December 14, 2023 at 3:53 pm #2241808Joe has been a loser every place he’s been, he may be a fair position coach, but as a head coach or defensive coordinator he’s over head.
MX1825Posts: 3319December 14, 2023 at 8:50 pm #2241857Joe has been a loser every place he’s been, he may be a fair position coach, but as a head coach or defensive coordinator he’s over head.
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December 15, 2023 at 9:28 am #2241940i’m curious about why if he called man coverage, the players were playing off?
MX1825Posts: 3319December 15, 2023 at 6:08 pm #2242056i’m curious about why if he called man coverage, the players were playing off?
Barry does it all the time. Opposition need 4 yards for a 1st down, Packers play off 10 yards. Bingo 1st down unless the QB/WR mess up.
December 17, 2023 at 1:45 pm #2242381Never been a fan of Baker Mayfield, but today he has got my support.
But that guy’s got some accuracy and one hell of an armBeastPosts: 1121December 17, 2023 at 2:32 pm #2242392Wow, a 5 yard out, 2 missed tackles, and then a race to the end zone, touchdown. Baker is lighting it up today. He has almost 400 yards passing and 4 touchdowns.
Jimmy JonesPosts: 2783December 18, 2023 at 9:04 am #2242489oof. that pass defense.
playing 4-5 yards off a receiver works if you’re defending against deep threats, but not short plays. and if they throw short in a long situation, you’ve still got to have the personnel that can recover to make the tackle.
at this point Jaire Alexander’s gotta be in the training room like, “Nah, my shoulder still just doesn’t feel right…i think it might get better when Jim Leonard’s the Defensive Coordinator.”
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