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  • BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11570
    #2290464

    It’s early, but the “plan” for a backup QB seems to have been executed perfectly despite what the experts here said.

    The “plan” was if Love got injured it would be only a couple weeks and while they are playing 2 of the worst teams in the league?!?! Wow, that front office is clairvoyant, and deserve even more credit!!!

    In reality, where I like to operate wink , credit is due to their defense and rest of the roster stepping up. And MLF getting Willis to a serviceable level in a short period of time. But I don’t think Willis’ 200 yards with 1 TD and no INT’s will work or maintain for a longer period of time. Better hope they aren’t rushing Love back and he hurts his knee worse!

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8127
    #2290471

    Are any other NFL teams’ backup QBs currently 2-0? His blend of not making the big mistake and being a willing runner is fine for me as a backup. I think he’s likely a solid backup at most moving forward, but that’s what he’s paid to be and the team is trying their best to rally around him.

    He’s not perfect, but panicing was clearly not the right move as many thought Packers faithful should do. It’s ok to be wrong BigWerm. We won’t fully revoke your mancard for admitting it wink

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2290473

    I’ll admit when I was wrong. I was wrong here. I didn’t think Willis was a viable back up option. Clearly LaFleur deserves some credit for simplying the game plan and using him effectively.

    Playing a couple of mediocre teams helped too.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11570
    #2290474

    Are any other NFL teams’ backup QBs currently 2-0?

    Yeah, the Vikings are 3-0 with a well prepared backup, he’s leading the league in TD passes too. whistling

    And I have no problem admitting I am wrong, the rare times it happens waytogo . But I was exactly right on this one, Willis is not a competent NFL QB at throwing the football, and the schedule aligning with 2 of the worst teams, worked in your favor. Doesn’t mean the Packer Way (which is signing guys about to get cut at the end of training camp now????) was well executed in this case. But I forgot delusions of grandeur are one of Packers fans main characteristics! rotflol jester rotflol

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1369
    #2290475

    MLF set him up for success sure but Willis deserves more credit on not panicking with not listening to the plan. To me yesterday he did not try and force anything and managed the game extremely well.

    Bigwerm were you watching the Packers game over the Vikings? It Okay this is a safe place and you can admit on caring more about the Packers than the Vikings!

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2290477

    Yeah, the Vikings are 3-0 with a well prepared backup, he’s leading the league in TD passes too.

    Darnold is not a backup. He was the declared starting QB since day 1.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8127
    #2290484

    Darnold is the #1 QB in Minnesota, and the plan was never to immediately start 21 year old JJ McCarthy even pre-injury. Now BigWerm is just throwing things out there to see what sticks. jester

    Everyone prepare yourselves for BigWerm’s chest pounding next week when the undefeated Vikings who are playing extremely well WITH their starting QB, knock off the Packers with their backup QB. We will come full circle about how “right” he is yet again that Malik Willis couldn’t pull it off and ONLY is 2-1 as a starter. The front office in GB will be failures yet again. roll

    I do agree with what has been stated that MLF deserves credit. I don’t care how bad these teams are or may end up being…the team has rallied to try and save the season, and that’s a reflection of coaching.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8127
    #2290486

    I’ll admit when I was wrong. I was wrong here. I didn’t think Willis was a viable back up option. Clearly LaFleur deserves some credit for simplying the game plan and using him effectively.

    Playing a couple of mediocre teams helped too.

    I didn’t think Willis would be more than “Maybe OK” either. I just thought that the Packers did what they could with what they had in a tough situation to acquire him. He’s played OK and hasn’t made huge mistakes which is all people can ask for. It wasn’t worth panicking about the backup QB situation as a fan when the #1s on the roster have plenty of holes too.

    I do NOT expect Willis to pull it off if he starts against the Vikings. I would bet he struggles as is to be expected as a backup QB playing one of the best teams in the league. The Vikings defensive scheme has given teams countless fits already this season. Ironically, I think both the Packers and Vikings have 2 of the best young head coaches in the league. Couple that with what the Lions have going, and the NFC North should be a fun division for years to come toast

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22418
    #2290487

    Technically.. anybody with an inkling of a football mind knows… Darnold was considered a back-up for most of his years. Just because you call him the #1, because you lost your #1, doesn’t make him a #1. That is just a fact. coffee

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8127
    #2290488

    Who exactly did YOU have predicted as the Vikings starting #1 QB going into camp?

    Enlighten us all with your wisdom, please.

    coffee coffee coffee coffee coffee

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2290489

    The only season Sam Darnold was considered a backup QB since he entered the league in 2016 was last season in SF.

    He was drafted as the starter for Carolina, he was traded to the Jets as the intended starter, and he was picked up by the Vikings as the intended starter.

    JJ McCarthy was not drafted to be the starter this season in Minnesota. The intent was to have him be the backup behind Darnold and work his way into the starting role, whether that was later this season or next.

    The thing is with Daronld, he’s never really been put into a starting QB position with even a medicore team around him. The Panthers and Jets were both bad when he was there. And last year he never played except in the pre season or mop up time with SF.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22418
    #2290491

    Proves my point.. just because you call someone a #1, doesn’t make them one. I agree he had no supporting cast (in SF he would have) but to think he would do as well as he is, well that makes the front office genius in MN.

    for the record, I had no one as the starting QB in Mn… they had a bunch of proven back-ups and a rookie.

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1369
    #2290494

    He was drafted as the starter for Carolina, he was traded to the Jets as the intended starter, and he was picked up by the Vikings as the intended starter.

    Other way around but still like your take on him.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11570
    #2290495

    Bigwerm were you watching the Packers game over the Vikings? It Okay this is a safe place and you can admit on caring more about the Packers than the Vikings!

    Hahaha no, had some unfortunate Flag Football schedule changes, that has me coaching 1st and 2nd graders for most of the noon games for the first six weeks. So for both the purple and everyone else playing at noon, I’m playing catch up and looking at stats.

    Darnold was drafted by the Jets, traded to Carolina where he was the starter for a year before backing up Baker Mayfield in 2022, and then a backup in 2023, and was signed on a one year deal as a placeholder here this offseason. Not sure how that 3 year progression adds up to QB1 status in some eyes, but again I’m operating in reality.

    The same reality that has Malik Willis as someone who slid in the draft, looked terrible when he played in TN, and was a desperation trade for the Pack before the start of the season as they had not planned to have a competent backup. #PackerWay The fact they’ve gone 2-0 with him, doesn’t negate that, like I said earlier it’s a credit to the defense, MLF and a lucky schedule.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2290497

    Other way around but still like your take on him.

    My bad, thank you for correcting.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22539
    #2290498

    Darnold was drafted 3rd overall and was expected to pan out. Unfortunately going to a team drafting that high they are likely terrible and they obviously were. He was fantastic in the one game he played in San Fran.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10380
    #2290537

    Serious question.
    I will be heading to GB this weekend to watch the game. I have never been to an opposing teams stadium so I’m not quite sure of protocol.
    Can I wear this jersey or is that not a good idea?

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    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22539
    #2290539

    EPG you should be good there, but do not do it in Philly.

    Tlazer
    Posts: 674
    #2290575

    Seeing how there are so many (supposedly) Vikings fans on this site, thought I would post this photo. I love the guy in the GB hat jester
    Hope the photo loads.

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    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3774
    #2290582

    EPG that’s pretty cool, honestly I think enough time has passed that you may get (good?) comments from both fan bases.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11570
    #2290615

    Seeing how few Packers fans there are, I thought I’d share my favorite Packers fans joke. How many Packers fans does it take to change a light bulb? 4, 1 to change it and the other 3 to talk about how good the old lightbulb was.

    EPG you will be fine, Packers fans at Lambeau are awesome. It’s the ones in Western WI and MN that give them a bad rep… chased devil jester

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #2290641

    Sad news just announced:

    NFL legend Brett Favre announces he has Parkinson’s disease.

    -J.

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1369
    #2290647

    NFL legend Brett Favre announces he has Parkinson’s disease.

    Say what you want about him but thats pretty sad news.

    Mike Schulz
    Osakis/Long Prairie
    Posts: 1217
    #2290650

    yes sad news indeed…

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8127
    #2290661

    EPG I’d wear it and I’m a Packers/Favre/Rodgers fan.

    As “bitter” as the rivalry may seem, I bet you can wear all the Vikings gear you want walking through the tailgating area and would still get offered more free brats and beer than you could handle. I’ve never seen anything more than fun heckling at Lambeau or at the Vikings stadiums over the years either. There are random crazies most places in today’s world, but the overall majority of Packers/Vikings fans at the games I’ve been to are just happy to be there in the environment and full of Midwest Nice

    dirtywater
    Posts: 1532
    #2290669

    EPG I’d wear it and I’m a Packers/Favre/Rodgers fan.

    If you’d wear that you are more of a Favre fan than a packers fan. I wouldn’t wear a Vikings jersey even if it had a family member’s name on it. Not a chance! But yes, I’d offer my tailgate goodies to anyone who walked by no matter how ugly their shirt.

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1450
    #2290672

    Sad news just announced:

    NFL legend Brett Favre announces he has Parkinson’s disease.

    -J.

    Lead with you head, embrace contact as much as he did and you’ll likely end up with neurological problems. Heck of a competitor and fun to watch. Very sad.

    Highbeeze24
    Posts: 72
    #2290783

    A Jones is a class act all around. Hurts to see him in purple but what a great guy and I wish him nothing but success. Heck of an article he put out…

    It’s funny how so much of life is just about people seeing you or not. Growing up, and wanting to make it as a football player, I had all these people basically telling me I wasn’t anything special. Coming out of high school I only had two college offers. Going into the draft I waited almost 200 picks for my name to be called. So when I finally did get drafted, I think there’s a part of me that figured it’s about to be the same in the NFL: more people who just see right past me, or who see me as nothing worth investing in.

    Then I became a Green Bay Packer.

    I remember this one moment early on in camp my rookie season. The Packers had drafted three running backs in 2017, and the receivers started taking “bets” on which of us was going to come out on top. Obviously a lot of guys had Jamaal since he was drafted the highest. Then one day in camp, Davante walks up to me. He’s the No. 1 receiver, right? Fourth year and about to make a Pro Bowl. He’s the dude in that room — and he comes over to me on the sideline, I don’t even know why, and he says, “I got you as my dog in this race.” I can’t even tell you what that did for me, honestly. It was like, OK, Davante Adams believes in me?? It meant a lot.

    I also remember the very first time I played an offensive snap — it was Week 4 at home against Chicago. Both our main running backs had gone down, so it’s only me and our fullback left. I run onto the field, and when I get into the huddle it’s crazy: A-Rod, he just looks at me and he says, “Hey. I am one of your biggest fans in this entire organization. It’s your time. Yours, right now.” I ended up scoring and we won that game.

    The next few weeks, both main backs were still out and I played really well. Pretty soon they got healthy though and I went back to not being out there as much. In my head I’m thinking, I had a nice moment. Maybe it’s over. But then I’ll never forget there was this one drive, later in the season — and out of nowhere, A-Rod calls timeout, turns to the sideline and yells: “I WANT 33 IN THE GAME!!! I WANT 33 IN THE GAME!!! 33!!! NOW!!!” I’m standing there, I’m looking down at my jersey … and suddenly I’m like, Oh wait. I’m 33. That’s ME. I don’t even remember what the play was, or what happened on it, but I just know how good that felt. It was this reminder that I was there for a reason, you know what I mean? One of the best QBs who’s ever lived is actually seeing something in me.

    It wasn’t just my teammates who made me feel seen in Green Bay — it was our fans, too. Especially in those first few years when I was trying to make my name in the league, I think people started to notice that good things would happen when I had the ball, and they wanted me to be more involved. So they started tweeting with the hashtag #FREEAARONJONES. I know it’s just a hashtag, but I won’t lie, that was cool. Every time I saw it in my mentions, it reassured me I wasn’t going unnoticed. Our fans understood how hard I was working to make things happen, and I fed off of that.

    I’m also very grateful for the Packers organization, and the way they had faith in me as a person. One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was as a rookie: I got cited for driving with marijuana in my system, and suspended by the league for the start of my second year. I was so embarrassed after it happened. They say you represent the G at all times, and I hadn’t held up my part of that. I felt like I’d let everyone down who gave me a chance as a fifth-round pick — and for a guy like me who wasn’t established yet, a lot of teams might’ve said “let’s just cut him.” It definitely could have gone either way … but the Packers had my back. Their mentality was, This mistake isn’t you. It’s only you if you don’t learn from it. They made sure I walked around our building with my head held high, even when I was feeling really low.

    Then in the spring of 2021, two very different events happened — and they both changed my life forever.

    The first one happened on March 26th: I signed a second contract with the Packers. Four years for $48 million. I’d been on my rookie contract until then, and I hadn’t grown up with money, so it was a big moment. It was the feeling of security for my family, and knowing they’ll always be taken care of. It was also the feeling of validation for the work I’d put in — that all those people who’d doubted me had been proven wrong.

    At the center of both of those feelings was my dad. He was the single biggest influence in my life, by far, in terms of who I became both as a football player and as a man. He was the one who made me fall in love with football, he was my coach, my trainer, my biggest supporter, my best friend, and of course he was also just my dad. He was a diehard Cowboys fan (you know the kind) … but as soon as I got drafted by Green Bay, none of that mattered. You weren’t going to see a Cowboys color in our house ever again. It was dark green, cheese gold, Packers everything. He came to every game — every single one. During pregame, he’d make sure he was in the end zone where we were warming up. I’d go find him before kickoff and shake his hand, then he’d kiss me on the forehead and tell me how proud he was. “Go rip it up, go have a day.” That’s how he’d leave it.

    So it’s hard to put into words the emotions I was going through when, less than two weeks after I signed my new deal, my dad passed away. It pretty much came out of nowhere: He got COVID, and there were complications, and it just happened very fast. One day I was with my family in El Paso to celebrate that the contract terms had been agreed to … and by the time I was in Green Bay to actually sign, he was at the hospital. Eleven days later, on April 6th, he was gone.

    He passed away at home, which is what he wanted and something I took a lot of comfort in. My parents both served in the military, and they’d been off to war multiple times. Whenever my dad would be away, he’d know that Alvin, Chelsirae and I were worried about him — so he’d tell us, “I’m coming home to you guys. I’m coming home.” I’m glad he could come home for us one last time.

    I guess that’s a heavy story to put in a letter like this…… Maybe it’s too heavy, I don’t know. I wanted to share it with you all though. Because when I think about my seven years in Green Bay, the thing that probably will stay with me most is the way that the Packers were there for me when I lost my dad.

    That’s the toughest thing I’ve been through in my whole life, and I went through it while we were preparing for a season where the goal was the Super Bowl. I knew that everyone was counting on me to be at my best — which is a lot to carry when you’re grieving a loved one. The Packers helped me carry that grief as much as they could. So many of my teammates reached out, and made me feel that fraternity. At the funeral, I honestly couldn’t believe it, Coach LaFleur flew all the way down to Texas. Brian Gutekunst (our GM) and Ben Sirmans (our running backs coach) also flew down. To say they didn’t have to do that is an understatement … and I know I could never repay them on a football field. So I’ll just say, “Thank you.”

    That’s the biggest thing I want to write here, not just to the Packers organization but really to all of Green Bay. Thank you. It’s going to feel strange being on that visiting sideline for the first time, and being on the other side of this NFC North thing in general — but it’s ALL love, and it’s so much gratitude. Thanks for “betting” on me, riding with me, hashtagging for me, and everything else.

    Thanks for SEEING me.

    No G on the helmet Sunday, always one in my heart.

    -Aaron

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8127
    #2290788

    He’s always been a class act. His moving on seems like the rare “Win – Win” scenario for both the Vikings and the Packers.

    The Packers needed a guy to really handle the load with a young QB and admittedly get a pile of touches potentially against loaded boxes. When Jones could stay healthy the last couple seasons he was still pretty special, but moving on to a younger (hopefully) more durable guy seemed logical too to sync timelines with the younger offensive pieces.

    Jones is not a young RB anymore but definitely has some juice in the tank. He can do anything well and is a leader in the lockerroom…which is looking like a pretty good fit in KOC’s system. He’s an easy guy to root for regardless what jersey he’s wearing. It’d be cool to see him score at Lambeau this weekend and get a Lambeau leap in. Hopefully that score is just in a losing effort though

    dirtywater
    Posts: 1532
    #2290833

    Yeah, seen a lot of players go from green to purple but seeing 33 on the other side is the toughest. I truly wish that dude the best, just hope it doesn’t come against the pack.

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