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  • Captain Live2fish
    Hayfield, MN
    Posts: 120
    #1515953

    Typical late Feb itch sitting in my boat in the garage cleaning up from last year when a thought came across my mind in an article I read about boating regulations in 2015. My question to all is there a boating class (certification) you must attend for operating a boat in MN waters this year? If so, will an out of state certification transfer over so you don’t need to take the class. Also, is there any other regulations I guy needs to know different from last year. Don’t need to screw up a day on the water with getting a ticket. Thanks in advance.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1515960

    Giz, it helps to put a location of some sort in your profile to help us answer questions. I’m guessing you’re from WI.

    There’s been a lot of talk on this site and others about “the test” and it’s stickers for trailering a boat.

    Currently there is not any change until July 1st of this year, but we expect that to change before then…we just don’t know what it’s going to change to.

    Check your registration on your boat and you should be good.

    I wish I could say I smell spring in the air….

    Captain Live2fish
    Hayfield, MN
    Posts: 120
    #1516014

    I live in southern MN but moved from Washington state a few years back. it was required to have certification from WA state to operate a boat so I assumed MN will eventually do the same. They allow transfers from other states. Thanks

    Tim Bossert
    Cochrane, WI
    Posts: 429
    #1516771

    I have heard they (MN) have cancelled this for 2015. This has come from a law enforcement officer that works on the river.

    Any truth out there to confirm this? Perhaps just the part about pulling ANY trailer over travelling through their state whether they launch or not in MN?

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11915
    #1516785

    Yes, my understanding is it is currently suspended. However I believe there are seperate bills one to totally repeal it, as well as another to alter it and keep in force. Either way it wasn’t going to be enforced in 2015. Per my understanding anyway.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1516929

    Ummm I’m not sure where these people are getting their info from. As of today, the law as it was is still going into effect July 1st.

    There is a repealer law sitting someplace in St Paul that’s not moving at this time.

    There’s another bill that’s making it’s way through the legislature that changes a few things, but it’s still a test with the sticker for the trailers. The wording was changed to “if you’re going to launch your boat in MN”.

    Check out the MN General Forum.There’s an audio file that’s pretty interesting to listen to as to who is holding what cards.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1517042

    Yes, the World in St.Paul is vastly different from the rest of Minnesota.

    Basically, the world in St.Paul, the Capitol area is full of a bunch of generally older people of various Political Ideologies acting like children, some of whom get put in positions of power as committee chairs, which drastically changes them into what children would call BULLIES.

    Once they become a Bully, they look at Bill (Potential Laws) and decide whether or not they wish to support or reject it. If they wish to reject it, they just put in a pile of “Dis-Likes” and then they DIE or they use their Bully Power to gather support against it so they can call a hearing and then get their whole committee to REJECT it.

    However, if a Bill comes across their desk they LIKE, then they hold it until they gather enough support to get it passed, then call a hearing and and KaZOOM, it is Passed, then they use their Bully POWER to twist arms, ears, and whatever else is available to get it Heard & PASSED in the next Committee, and the next until the Full Chamber hears and Votes upon it.

    Once that’s done they try and gather support in the other Chamber of whom is usually of the those that have other Political Ideologies acting like children opposed to their own and it all starts over again.

    Many times however the Bill from one chamber is different from the other so they gather another what they call a conference committee chaired by a Really Powerful Bully, whom’s job is it to change the language of both bills into something that they all agree upon in the end after everybody has compromised their morals and ending up with something that doesn’t resemble the original idea, but they all can feel good about it because it screws the people of Minnesota into believing these once human people they sent to St.Paul did something for them.

    Now, when they get to that point and considered successful, they push the Governor, whom thinks he is the KING to sign their Bill into LAW. However, this usually requires compromising their own beliefs and morals and supporting some other Bullies prize Bill!

    In the end, these once human people we the people sent to St. Paul have made in-human salaries and set themselves up for lifetime pensions unknown to the vast majority of the people, exempt themselves from following the same Laws they just created to Govern the People, go on Trips & drive vehicles and enjoy many other perks paid for by Lobbyists who’s job it is to screw the People on behalf of those whom think they are Royalty!

    I’ll close by telling you that someplace in this writing I’ve described where the Bills we want and don’t want are at this time.

    The Lobbyists are working hard to screw us, so our only choice is to get on our phones and begin calling our State Senators and Representatives, which many are a Bully someplace along the Hog Trough and tell them to Repeal 86B.13 and Don’t try and change it into something else.

    Anything but a Full REPEAL is unsatisfactory and they’ll be called out in the next ELECTION.

    Check out https://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-MN-Statute-86B13/1593672207529357?ref=bookmarks for more information.

    Thank You

    Tim Reszler
    Kenosha
    Posts: 182
    #1517136

    I am making a week long trip to northern MN the last week in July to do some fishing. Will myself as a Wisconsin resident need to have an boaters safety class or any other special items while trailering and launching my boat in MN waters?

    Denny O
    Central IOWA
    Posts: 5827
    #1517144

    To quote the article here is what and how I see it.
    They are delaying the January Launch of the training not the July law going into effect. The law is what is in debate mostly.

    “St. Paul — The DNR has postponed the launch of a new aquatic invasive species training and trailer decal program, which was set to launch Jan. 31.

    The agency says it will hold off as lawmakers consider changes to the program, which was included in legislation passed in 2012. Under that law, which goes into effect July 1, anyone trailering a boat or water-related equipment in the state is required to take AIS training and display a decal on their trailer.

    “With the legislative interest in this educational program and ongoing discussions about possible changes, we are postponing the launch until we see if the Legislature acts this session to modify the program,”

    Bob Meier, DNR assistant commissioner, said in a news release on Wednesday, Jan. 28.”

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11915
    #1517153

    Looks like you are correct @Denny
    http://news.dnr.state.mn.us/2015/01/28/dnr-postpones-ais-training-and-trailer-decal-program/

    However, it looks like there is no penalty for not obeying, see letter (e).
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=86B.13

    Subd. 4.Aquatic invasive species trailer decal display required.

    (a) A person may not transport watercraft or water-related equipment, as defined under section 84D.01, subdivision 18a, with a trailer unless the person has an aquatic invasive species trailer decal issued under this section. Temporary authorizations valid for seven days can be requested by persons that have not completed the required course of instruction.

    (b) Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are valid for three years.

    (c) The aquatic invasive species trailer decal must be adhered to the side of the trailer frame tongue near the hitch in a manner that it is readily visible and does not interfere with the display of any registration requirements under section 169.79.

    (d) Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are not transferable.

    (e) Violation of this section shall not result in a penalty, but is punishable only by a warning.

    mnrabbit
    South Central Minnesota
    Posts: 815
    #1517218

    Missouri requires a boater safety class for all people operating a boat/pwc that are born after a certain date. 1975 or something. My extended family has a house at Lake of the Ozarks in MO, so I took the test online when I was probably 14. It was certainly not easy and it took a long time if I remember correctly!

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1517253

    BigWerm,

    You are correct as far as whats current.
    However, now, there is also a Bill moving in the Senate to change Statute 86B.13, adding Fines and changing language from Transport to Launch.

    I.E.: Traveling through the state would no longer be a problem, but if you launch without the sticker, you could be fined and dependent upon what weeds, water or other possibilities such as Zebra Mussels on your watercraft, you could be fined $50-$500.

    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=SF669&version=1&session_year=2015&session_number=0


    SF 669

    1st Engrossment – 89th Legislature (2015 – 2016) Posted on 02/20/2015 08:38am

    KEY: stricken = removed, old language. underscored = added, new language.

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    A bill for an act
    relating to natural resources; modifying requirements for aquatic invasives
    species trailer decal;amending Minnesota Statutes 2014, sections 84D.13,
    subdivisions 5, 9; 86B.13, subdivisions 1, 1a, 2, 4, by adding a subdivision.

    BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA:

    Section 1.

    Minnesota Statutes 2014, section 84D.13, subdivision 5, is amended to read:

    Subd. 5.

    Civil penalties.

    (a) A civil citation issued under this section must impose
    the following penalty amounts:

    (1) for transporting aquatic macrophytes in violation of section 84D.09, $100;

    (2) for placing or attempting to place into waters of the state water-related equipment
    that has aquatic macrophytes attached, $200;

    (3) for unlawfully possessing or transporting a prohibited invasive species other
    than an aquatic macrophyte, $500;

    (4) for placing or attempting to place into waters of the state water-related equipment
    that has prohibited invasive species attached when the waters are not listed by the
    commissioner as being infested with that invasive species, $500;

    (5) for intentionally damaging, moving, removing, or sinking a buoy marking, as
    prescribed by rule, Eurasian water milfoil, $100;

    (6) for failing to have drain plugs or similar devices removed or opened while
    transporting water-related equipment or for failing to remove plugs, open valves, and
    drain water from water-related equipment, other than marine sanitary systems, before
    leaving waters of the state, $100; and

    (7) for transporting infested water off riparian property without a permit as required
    by rule, $200; and

    (8) for launching water-related equipment into waters of the state in violation of
    section 86B.13, subdivision 4, $25.

    (b) A civil citation that is issued to a person who has one or more prior convictions
    or final orders for violations of this chapter is subject to twice the penalty amounts listed
    in paragraph (a).

    EFFECTIVE DATE.

    This section is effective January 1, 2017, and applies to
    violations that occur on or after that date.

    Sec. 2.

    Minnesota Statutes 2014, section 84D.13, subdivision 9, is amended to read:

    Subd. 9.

    Training for offenders.

    For violations that occur on or after January
    1, 2016, a person who is convicted of or subject to a final order for a violation of this
    chapter involving water-related equipment must successfully complete a training course as
    provided in section 86B.13.

    EFFECTIVE DATE.

    This section is effective the day following final enactment.

    Sec. 3.

    Minnesota Statutes 2014, section 86B.13, subdivision 1, is amended to read:

    Subdivision 1.

    Establishment.

    By January 1, 2016, the commissioner shall
    establish a statewide course in preventing the spread of aquatic invasive species. The
    commissioner must develop an educational course and testing program that address
    identification of aquatic invasive species and best practices to prevent the spread of aquatic
    invasive species when moving water-related equipment, as defined under section 84D.01,
    subdivision 18a. The commissioner shall not charge a fee to a person taking the course.

    EFFECTIVE DATE.

    This section is effective the day following final enactment.

    Sec. 4.

    Minnesota Statutes 2014, section 86B.13, subdivision 1a, is amended to read:

    Subd. 1a.

    Training for offenders.

    For violations that occur on or after January 1,
    2016, a person who is convicted of or subject to a final order for a violation of chapter
    84D involving water-related equipment must successfully complete the training course in
    subdivision 1 before continuing operation or use of water-related equipment.

    EFFECTIVE DATE.

    This section is effective the day following final enactment.

    Sec. 5.

    Minnesota Statutes 2014, section 86B.13, subdivision 2, is amended to read:

    Subd. 2.

    Aquatic invasive species trailer decal.

    The commissioner shall issue, at
    no cost to the person, an aquatic invasive species trailer decal for each trailer owned by a
    person that satisfactorily completes the required course of instruction.

    EFFECTIVE DATE.

    This section is effective the day following final enactment.

    Sec. 6.

    Minnesota Statutes 2014, section 86B.13, subdivision 4, is amended to read:

    Subd. 4.

    Aquatic invasive species trailer decal display required.

    (a) Beginning
    January 1, 2016, a person may not transport launch watercraft or water-related equipment,
    as defined under section 84D.01, subdivision 18a, into waters of the state, as defined
    in section 84D.01, subdivision 20, with a trailer unless the person has an aquatic
    invasive species trailer decal or training validation issued under this section. Temporary
    authorizations valid for seven 14 days can be requested by persons that have not completed
    the required course of instruction.

    (b) Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are valid for three years.

    (c) The aquatic invasive species trailer decal must be adhered to the side of the trailer
    frame tongue near the hitch in a manner that it is readily visible and does not interfere with
    the display of any registration requirements under section 169.79.

    (d) Aquatic invasive species trailer decals are not transferable.

    (e) Violation of this section shall not result in a penalty, but is punishable only by
    a warning. Unless otherwise provided by law, a person is exempt from the training and
    decal requirements under this section if the person:

    (1) holds a valid service provider permit under section 84D.108; or

    (2) is using a trailer to launch water-related equipment that has been seasonally
    stored on riparian property owned by the person and that is being directly returned to the
    same water body from which the water-related equipment was removed.

    EFFECTIVE DATE.

    This section is effective the day following final enactment.

    Sec. 7.

    Minnesota Statutes 2014, section 86B.13, is amended by adding a subdivision
    to read:

    Subd. 5.

    Penalty.

    A person launching water-related equipment into waters of the
    state who fails to display an aquatic invasive species trailer decal or training validation
    in violation of this section is subject to the penalty under section 84D.13, subdivision 5,
    paragraph (a), clause (8), except for any violations prior to January 1, 2017, which are
    punishable only by a warning.

    EFFECTIVE DATE.

    This section is effective the day following final enactment.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1517383

    OK. So we have until 2017 to kill this

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    violation of this section is subject to the penalty under section 84D.13, subdivision 5,
    paragraph (a), clause (8), except for any violations prior to January 1, 2017, which are
    punishable only by a warning.

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