Get your gas GM while u still can

Interesting

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barrons.com/amp/articles/gm-stock-ev-all-electric-lineup-2035-51611867146

Why? Haven’t electric augers taught us anything? By then, instead of not being able to sell your gas auger it will be a vehicle nobody wants or can’t use then you’re stuck with worthless nostalgic scrap. Embrace electric now so it will all just happen quicker!

Sure, combustion engines will have their place for a long while, just like augers. But, for the vast vast majority of consumers, gas is definitely showing it’s age and it has been for the better portion of the current century, just like augers. In 30 years we will wonder why we didn’t adopt electric sooner.

I can only imagine what the vehicles of the not-so-distant future will be like. Especially once we perfect electric motors for consumer vehicles.

Ryan Wilson wrote:

Why? Haven’t electric augers taught us anything? By then, instead of not being able to sell your gas auger it will be a vehicle nobody wants or can’t use then you’re stuck with worthless nostalgic scrap. Embrace electric now so it will all just happen quicker!

Sure, combustion engines will have their place for a long while, just like augers. But, for the vast vast majority of consumers, gas is definitely showing it’s age and it has been for the better portion of the current century, just like augers. In 30 years we will wonder why we didn’t adopt electric sooner.

I can only imagine what the vehicles of the not-so-distant future will be like. Especially once we perfect electric motors for consumer vehicles.

I have a hard time believing that the technology is there to replace my diesel truck with an electric version. I think if you are just driving a to b sure but I think gas/diesel vehicles will always be around for people who need heavy tow vehicles

What’s great about gas is it has a lot of energy for its weight compared to batteries-also the recharge speed is crazy fast, if you fill up with gas it takes just minutes and your range is great. I have a gas and electric auger, they both have their place.Heard a DJ say he was given an amazing collectable set of LPs because his friend had them in CD and at the time everyone was saying that Lps were obsolete.
Oh and my gas auger can sit in a cold garage, batteries are brought in every time and fully recharged every time. Gas is an amazing fuel.

Gilgetter wrote:

I have a hard time believing that the technology is there to replace my diesel truck with an electric version. I think if you are just driving a to b sure but I think gas/diesel vehicles will always be around for people who need heavy tow vehicles

Trains run off electric motors with the diesel providing the electricity for the motors. It will take some time but we will get it right some day. I am sure a lot of people thought we would never replace the horse and buggy….

James Almquist wrote:

Trains run off electric motors with the diesel providing the electricity for the motors.

Therefore the train runs off the energy provided by the diesel.

Energy cannot be created. The energy stored in the diesel fuel is converted to electrical energy. The electric energy is converted to mechanical.

Converting the diesel energy to electric does not suddenly ADD more energy.

We will have electric someday we just need time to perfect the battery’s. I just don’t believe we need to try to make it happen instantly. Perfecting things over time is the most cost effective way.

Easy decision for GM, they haven’t made a gas or diesel vehicle worth having for many years already.

onestout wrote:

Easy decision for GM, they haven’t made a gas or diesel vehicle worth having for many years already.

Um??

Huntindave wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>James Almquist wrote:</div>
Trains run off electric motors with the diesel providing the electricity for the motors.

Therefore the train runs off the energy provided by the diesel.

Energy cannot be created. The energy stored in the diesel fuel is converted to electrical energy. The electric energy is converted to mechanical.

Converting the diesel energy to electric does not suddenly ADD more energy.

Correct, but it is proof of concept. Battery technology is getting better by the day, and sooner or later it will be better than a gas engine. There is technology coming to the market that has the ability to charge a vehicle in less than 10 minutes and give you a few hundred miles of range.

However, the tradeoff is the mining and manufacturing of these batteries. Whoever thinks using a battery is healthier for the planet needs a reality check. And whoever thinks we will eventually have zero dependency on oil needs an even bigger reality check.

And when there is not enough power plants in this country to supply all this newly needed power because the greenies prevented it from being built we will be like Kalifornia with rolling blackouts and brownouts.

Good news is California will be the first to implement by 2035 since there power grid is far superior then the rest of the states. LOL

It’s that Joe Biden! First he’s coming for your guns and now he’s coming for your trucks!

You’re a lot like Pavlov’s dog

eyeguy507 wrote:

It’s that Joe Biden! First he’s coming for your guns and now he’s coming for your trucks!

I think at best 3/4 ton and larger trucks will be hybrids. At least for a long time. There just isn’t the technology to have the range and cold weather capabilities needed. It’s iffy for 1/2 tons too. Not to mention there’s no infrastructure outside of cities or off major interstates. It’s 2021 and outstate MN doesn’t even have much broadband internet coverage. Where are you going to plug your truck in at Red Lake when it’s 20 below? LOTS of work to do before implementation.

I already think it’s weird getting into today’s gas trucks that are whisper quiet compared to the rumble trucks used to give you. Going to be really weird jumping into a completely silent beefy truck that is still pulling a heavy load behind it. The GMC Hummer thing will be interesting to watch.

Where do ya think the electricity comes from when you plug in your electric car or charge your auger batteries ? Probably a coal fired power plant.

average life cycle of solar panel is 25 years.
90% end up in land fills.

This change is coming. Technology has never stopped chasing profits. With some government incentives it will only come sooner. The auger is a nice micro-example. This will take substantially longer though, likely beyond most of our times.

What people are missing is that technology’s rollout isn’t uniform. Our region is going to be one of the last to see this, much like self driving cars, etc due to lower population density and more extreme climate across the region. I do think public transportation and commuter transportation in more mild large cities will see this change soon.

Rest calmly, it will be a long time before you aren’t going across Mille Lacs or URL in your diesel truck with wheelhouse in tow hoping a few walleyes swim by while “rolling coal.” It’s going to be devastating to my ego when the day comes that I climb into my silent truck with twice the torque and efficiency as today’s trucks. At least by then the 9th generation of LiveScope will be out and landing tagged fish for me, so it’s easier to claim what a master outdoorsman I am

eyekatcher wrote:

average life cycle of solar panel is 25 years.
90% end up in land fills.

As well as wind turbines….

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One just has to look at the stocks of various EV and Lidar companies to know that there’s serious investment in these technologies on the horizon.

tornadochaser wrote:

One just has to look at the stocks of various EV and Lidar companies to know that there’s serious investment in these technologies on the horizon.

Most was done by a few select politicians shortly before a certain someone announced all government vehicles are going to be required electric.

supercat wrote:

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Easy decision for GM, they haven’t made a gas or diesel vehicle worth having for many years already.

Um??

Lol good one

onestout wrote:

Easy decision for GM, they haven’t made a gas or diesel vehicle worth having for many years already.

Yep you don’t see any GM products on the road anymore.

I’m still pretty jacked about Bluetooth!

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Someday I’d love a 3/4 ton electric Silverado, crew cab and 6.5″ box. Sign me up for the 2nd or 3rd year’s release after a few more bugs have been worked out. I bet we’re looking at 2030-2035 for a top-performing electric truck that doesn’t break the bank.

wkw wrote:

Where do ya think the electricity comes from when you plug in your electric car or charge your auger batteries ? Probably a coal fired power plant.

That’s a good point. A lot of the energy used to change vehicle batteries was derived from fossil fuels and isn’t as ‘green’ as we’d like to think.

I’m going to hold off for their Hydrogen vehicle…

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/billion-dollar-bet/

BigWerm wrote:

I’m going to hold off for their Hydrogen vehicle…

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/billion-dollar-bet/

Must be well on their way by now since that story came out in 2003 huh? LOL

Volkswagen will be 100% electric be 2026.

https://industryeurope.com/sectors/transportation/volkswagen-to-go-all-electric-by-2026/

-J.

Yep, all of these electric powered devices, and the electricity to charge them has to come from somewhere, not defined yet. And batteries to store the energy, are made of rare earth minerals. Why do you think they call them “rare”? Its all a money grab for the rich and politicians, and a way to force a new economy artificially. I have no doubt it is going to happen, just don’t believe in the reasons why.