Garmin Panoptix Livescope – for Ice Fishing!

I have my portable Garmin Livescope built and ready. See the photo below of the ice package.

Here is a video on just how amazing it can me.

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Best fishing tool around. Ice or open water

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Yeah those look pretty nifty. But, kinda tough to justify $2k for sonar unit, personally. I felt bad enough spending $600 on my Helix.

But, I have two young kids and I’m a crusty accountant. The Helix is freaking amazing, so I can only imagine…

Are you just using the standard battery to run livescope? I have heard that the standard battery isn’t nearly enough to get any serious run time.

also where do you have the “black box” mounted?

Just so cool, be awesome for ice fishing and drop shoting for smallies. I wonder when James in the crew will switch over for ice fishing.

Charles wrote:

Just so cool, be awesome for ice fishing and drop shoting for smallies. I wonder when James in the crew will switch over for ice fishing.

Let’s leave this to uncut angling.

Questions:
1. What Battery?

I use the 12AH Milwaukee M18 which leaves me enough room in the battery compartment to store the ice fishing transducer.

2. Where do you have the “black box” mounted?

I put the Livescope box directly behind the Echomap holder, vertical with cable sockets up and have it tie-wrapped to the handle.

Gunflint Trail wrote:

Questions:
1. What Battery?

I use the 12AH Milwaukee M18 which leaves me enough room in the battery compartment to store the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>ice fishing transducer.

2. Where do you have the “black box” mounted?

I put the Livescope box directly behind the Echomap holder, vertical with cable sockets up and have it tie-wrapped to the handle.

Ok, the panoptix ice bundle comes with garmins battery. Im curious what sort of run time you will get out of that Milwaukee battery.

Wait…isn’t that a battery for a cordless drill???

Yes, it is the state of the art drill battery. I used the Garmin 12 volt to power my Clam flip over hit. The M18 has 50% more watts than the other one so I should get a full day fishing. Need some ice to find out.

Gunflint Trail wrote:

Yes, it is the state of the art drill battery. I used the Garmin 12 volt to power my Clam flip over hit. The M18 has 50% more watts than the other one so I should get a full day fishing. Need some ice to find out.

WOW! That is insane. Did you hard wire it in?

I bought an adapter off of eBay. The hobbyists use the adapter to power bikes and other things with the M18.

Gunflint Trail wrote:

I bought an adapter off of eBay. The hobbyists use the adapter to power bikes and other things with the M18.

I’m very interested to hear these results!

Gunflint Trail wrote:

I bought an adapter off of eBay. The hobbyists use the adapter to power bikes and other things with the M18.

So does that convert it to 12 volts?

Wow. I had never seen that before. That is impressive. I have to say though at what point does this technology feel like its cheating? Im not judging anyone that wants to use it and lord knows if someone from 30 years ago would look at what I utilize to fish they might say I was cheating too but it just seems to me the way the advancements in technology are progressing its taking a bit away from the sport for my taste. Thanks for posting the video though that was quite something to see the fish come off the bottom like that!

crappie55369 wrote:

Wow. I had never seen that before. That is impressive. I have to say though at what point does this technology feel like its cheating? Im not judging anyone that wants to use it and lord knows if someone from 30 years ago would look at what I utilize to fish they might say I was cheating too but it just seems to me the way the advancements in technology are progressing its taking a bit away from the sport for my taste. Thanks for posting the video though that was quite something to see the fish come off the bottom like that!

All the technology in the world still won’t make the fish bite.

It’s cool watching those muskies with the Livescope Panoptics, but other than the WOW factor, it’s really not much different than seeing a big red mark come and go on the Vexilar.

B-man wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
Wow. I had never seen that before. That is impressive. I have to say though at what point does this technology feel like its cheating? Im not judging anyone that wants to use it and lord knows if someone from 30 years ago would look at what I utilize to fish they might say I was cheating too but it just seems to me the way the advancements in technology are progressing its taking a bit away from the sport for my taste. Thanks for posting the video though that was quite something to see the fish come off the bottom like that!

All the technology in the world still won’t make the fish bite.

It’s cool watching those muskies with the Livescope Panoptics, but other than the WOW factor, it’s really not much different than seeing a big red mark come and go on the Vexilar.

I suppose you may be right

If your vexilar had a 135° cone one way and then trying to decipher where in the cone the fish is. Pretty sweet technology!

Not to derail the thread but I think the biggest thing with garmin and ice fishing is using panoptix to find fish that are not under your hole by rotating the transducer, effectively narrowing down your search in a short amount of time. Not that this destroys fishing but I found that to potentially be a very useful tool.

Gunflint, I am looking forward to see how this works out! I am jealous of the setup but I think it will be a vex fl18 for me for awhile yet.

Also interested in this battery adapter you were talking about.

Aaron Kalberer wrote:

Also interested in this battery adapter you were talking about.

They make them for Dewalt or Milwaukee. I use them on my locators. That way my auger and locators use the same battery. The side port converts the voltage to 12V.

https://www.amazon.com/LANMU-Battery-Adapter-Lithium-Soldering/dp/B07DZZLH7Z/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1541780734&sr=8-17&keywords=DCB203

https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-49-24-2371-M18-Power-Source/dp/B008PTP0SK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1541782112&sr=8-3&keywords=milwaukee+12+adapter+heated+jacket

Thanks Joe! This is pretty cool!!

No problem. I use these to make my locator adapters.

https://www.amazon.com/Igreeman-Upgraded-Connectors-Surveillance-Connection/dp/B072KQXWZF/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1542403631&sr=8-8&keywords=12+volt+barrel+connector

The Garmin tech is cool, but it’s in its infancy, the nex generations of Panoptix and Livescope will make this current gen look like Atari and I would bet they are just a year or two away, especially with Lowrance releasing their tech in January and Humminbird probably the following year, each company will push the tech to new levels just to be the first on the market…

I’ll wait for the tech to mature before thinking about plunking down the big bucks…

daddy wrote:

So does that convert it to 12 volts?

I believe Gunflint uses a third party adapter, not the powersource, using it at the full 18v (20v).

I run mine at 18v. The adapter just provides me an easy connection to the battery terminals and makes it easy to disconnect for charging.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

The Garmin tech is cool, but it’s in its infancy, the nex generations of Panoptix and Livescope will make this current gen look like Atari and I would bet they are just a year or two away, especially with Lowrance releasing their tech in January and Humminbird probably the following year, each company will push the tech to new levels just to be the first on the market…

I’ll wait for the tech to mature before thinking about plunking down the big bucks…

Lowrance is releasing their version under a patent sharing agreement out of their lawsuit with Garmin. I don’t think Hummingbird will be releasing anything similar anytime soon.

Some might think that the latest electronic technology is sucking the fun out of the sport of fishing, but look at the guys who are posting these videos on YouTube. Do they seem like they’re having less fun using these new technologies? Are we having less fun watching them?? No. These early adopters look like they’re having MORE fun! Is it wrong to want to have more fun when out doing what we love? Being thrilled with all the learning that goes along with being able to see what was previously unseen?

Unfortunately, being an early adopter means you have to ‘pay to play’. At these price points, it’s worth it for some, though not for others.

kayl wrote:

Lowrance is releasing their version under a patent sharing agreement out of their lawsuit with Garmin. I don’t think Hummingbird will be releasing anything similar anytime soon.

That is also what I heard. The Lowrance is going to be even more pricey, starting around $5,000 because you need a new and fast head unit. BUT, Humminbird risks being left behind as it was not involved with the patent lawsuit and the resulting cross-license agreement between Garmin and Lowrance’s parent company.