Game of Thrones

  • tindall
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1104
    #1853774

    The writers in the after commentary said that the dothraki charge was a break from the plan, as was jon and daeny taking off too soon to so that the battle did not go according to plan and seem predictable.

    I agree that something more will happen with the magic arc – it would be really poor writing to just erase all of the death/life story line in such an anticlimactic way. Jon is still some sort of undead character, or a completely resurrected “light” walker. Maybe they will raise an army of light? Maybe bran is the new night king – who knows. I can’t imagine how the show ends well, or does justice to the story if they just have a drawn out conventional battle.

    They also still had two dragons in the teaser – and that was a huge factor in taking the throne back in the day (if they aren’t shot down).

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17538
    #1853800

    I suspect the Iron Bank will have a HUGE role to play in the next two episodes as ultimately what GOT is all about is the personal squabbling humans do for money & power but depts must always be paid back or else….this is where the shows saying “A Lanister always pays his depts” will bite them in the a$$… I suspect we’ll get a sort of “reset of the wheel” but it will always spin back again and that’s just the nature of our existence…

    I need to watch episode 3 again with my TV brightness turned up to max so I can see everything I missed…

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11861
    #1856444

    WOW. What a second to last show. Kind of Sad to see that they turned Dani mad like her father. No way that Jon and her can live happily every after now. Like every show I have no idea what is coming next. Its going to be a crazy ending I’m sure. After last night you now they have something even crazier in store for the final show. I have no idea who will end up on the throne at the end. I doubt that we have seen the last of Cersei. You know they are not going to have her end that simple. Maybe they will have Aria end up being the Killer of the night king, Cersei, and Dani. I really don’t see Jon being the one to kill Dani or ending up on the throne. Looking forward to wild final show for sure !!!

    moustachesteve
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 540
    #1856453

    Yeah I agree that Cersei’s death has to be more gratifying than what we got in last night’s episode. I almost get the feeling the ending will be pretty much everyone dying and/or leaving Westeros. No character really feels like they’re a fit for the throne at this point and Jon doesn’t want it. Sansa maybe, but she’d rather be in the north too I’d imagine

    bigcrappie
    Blaine
    Posts: 4296
    #1856455

    Dani lost it last night that’s for sure.

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1361
    #1856456

    Thats what I love about this show, you just don’t know what’s going to happen next. I have zero clue what to think will happen. Is Arya going to kill dany now? What happened to Yara Greyjoy?

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1856458

    That wasn’t the most gratifying death for Cersei, but I do think she’s gone for good. I have a bad feeling that Dany is going to extend her craziness back to the Starks, she doesn’t seem to be a big fan of Sansa.

    Was definitely sad to see Dany go crazy, and to see all the northmen turn into bad dudes killing innocent folks too :(.

    I don’t know how it will end, but I’m thinking either Jon or Arya kill Dany(maybe Arya kills greyworm and steals his face!). Or maybe Tyrion somehow gets her, then he can be Queenslayer to Jaime’s Kingslayer :). I just don’t know how they’ll get rid of Drogon now though…

    I’m kind of thinking that if Jon survives, they might just abolish the Iron throne altogether. Jon falls back to winterfell and they secede from the south like in ancient times, King in the North.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1856466

    Do they still show a lot of nakedness. Asking for a friend. And that friend is me.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1856467

    Also, will the little guy from Elf die?

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11861
    #1856470

    Do they still show a lot of nakedness. Asking for a friend. And that friend is me.

    Not much at all this season

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11861
    #1856471

    Also, will the little guy from Elf die?

    That’s the million $ ? – Guess we will just have to watch next Sunday to find out

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11861
    #1857981

    What a shitty final show and shitty final season to what was a great show. You can tell they really weren’t planning on wrapping it up in one final season. They were all over the place this final season to wrap up some open story lines and it just seems like they were really rushed to end it. Sad to see that they spent many years building up Dani as this great person who wanted to do great things and then just turned her Evil/ mad at the end. Jon deserved a much better ending after all he had been through. It will be interesting to see if the prequel can be as big of a hit. My guess is NO. They never seem to be as good. I’m going to miss having this to look forward to Sunday nights. It was always a great way to wrap up a weekend.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1857986

    Prequel? All the people that got killed off gonna get jobs again?

    And what happened to Miles Finch?

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11500
    #1857996

    Sad to see that they spent many years building up Dani as this great person who wanted to do great things and then just turned her Evil/ mad at the end.

    I disagree on most of your points, thought it was a very solid ending to a decent season, just pales in comparison to the whole series slightly. I agree it could have been a few episodes longer to finish and wrap up some story lines more in-depth, but there were so many they had to cut it off somewhere. As for Dany this has been foreshadowed all along if you look beyond her flowery words. She burnt the Dothraki Khal’s alive, killed the master’s of Slaver’s Bay, and crucified the Mereenese, so there were plenty of signs of her being the Mad Queen. Jon had a fitting ending back where he started after a series arc ambivalent to the maneuvering in the Game of Thrones. I thought it was a good, not great last season, and the last episode was good. The Battle of Winterfell was one of the best episodes of the entire series, and I was cheering Arya like it was the Minneapolis Miracle at the end of it.

    And what happened to Miles Finch?

    He lived to be the Hand of the King (second in charge), and banished syrup from the realm.

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1858003

    What a completely rushed wet fart of an ending to the most ambitious TV series of all time.

    I read somewhere that HBO wanted another 10 episode season but the showrunners said they could do it in 6. It was obvious the showrunners just wanted to wrap everything up as quickly as possible, but this episode was just the worst.

    This season was a complete and utter let down. Battle of Winterfell episode was the only one that was somewhat good, but even then, they went too hollywood. In a story that made itself different with a ‘no one is safe’ dynamic, no one of any importance was killed from the good side in the biggest battle in history.

    Then, the dead army completely overruns the castle yet an episode later Dany still has thousands in her army. Then they get surprise attacked by Euron F’n Greyjoy for the one hundredth time. Why did they have to go back to Dragonstone if all of Dany’s troops are already in Winterfell?

    Jon and Grey Worm have an altercation in the street, then later, Dany is found completely alone with no guards in the throne room for Jon to just waltz in and kill her? Then, he just magically gets imprisoned by the unsullied and weeks go by with no explanation? Someone walk me through the scenario where Grey Worm or anyone else finds Dany disappeared and they calmly put Jon in a cell. It’s so stupid, and they knew it, because instead of writing it for that scenario to be somewhat believable, they just cut to months later with everyone all of a sudden in King’s Landing. The Dothraki horde definitely seem like a reasonable bunch, no way they’d try to kill Jon for murdering ‘khaleesi’ or anything.

    Like minutes earlier, the unsullied are murdering long-surrendered soldiers in the street, but they decide to take a more lenient stance against the guy who murders Dany?

    Lazy, uninspired, garbage.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11861
    #1858025

    I guess I’m more in Philtickelson’s camp than in Bigwerm’s. I just think they could have done a better job with the final season overall and with the final show for sure. I think anyone who just started watching the show in the last season or two would say ” What’s all the fuss about ”

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11861
    #1858034

    I cant get that link to open. If it was a favorable review its one of the few. Most of the ones I saw were Savage. They were even harder on the season and the final show than I was.

    cal74
    Posts: 68
    #1858051

    What a completely rushed wet fart of an ending to the most ambitious TV series of all time.

    Agreed

    tindall
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1104
    #1858131

    HBO wanted more episodes but the writers want to get focused on making the next star wars trilogy. So many loose ends in the story.

    ClownColor
    Inactive
    The Back 40
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    #1858147

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>philtickelson wrote:</div>
    What a completely rushed wet fart of an ending to the most ambitious TV series of all time.

    Agreed

    Waaaay too rushed. Great series so I think we all had super high expectations but I’m in the not happy camp with how it ended.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
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    #1858153

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>philtickelson wrote:</div>
    What a completely rushed wet fart of an ending to the most ambitious TV series of all time.

    Agreed

    “of all time” can think of 4 long running shows better than Thrones. DEXTER , though the last season sucked also, Longmire, The Wire and Deadwood. My opinion Thrones soap opera doesn’t even come close those 4.

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1858200

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>cal74 wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>philtickelson wrote:</div>
    What a completely rushed wet fart of an ending to the most ambitious TV series of all time.

    Agreed

    “of all time” can think of 4 long running shows better than Thrones. DEXTER , though the last season sucked also, Longmire, The Wire and Deadwood. My opinion Thrones soap opera doesn’t even come close those 4.

    Ambitious /= best. Although I would say that GoT was on it’s way to being a top show of all time, until they outpaced the books.

    Game of Thrones was a much larger undertaking than any of those shows, it’s an extremely long, convoluted story line with a huge cast of important characters. I guarantee that it was a much bigger undertaking than any of those shows, cast, effects, sets, costumes, CGI, etc. That’s what I meant by ambitious, and they were pulling it off until they didn’t.

    And please warn us before you mention something as awful as the final season of Dexter. Dexter S4 is one of my favorite seasons of any show, ever though. I’d put season one of Homeland up there as well.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
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    #1858322

    Really not into the long ambitious theatrical thing that uses special effects to drown out the…..

    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1858368

    That was such a colossal dud of an ending for a very respectable show. The writers were in way over their heads when George R. R. Martin’s original material ran out. I really feel bad for the superfans. The show had a fantastic build-up and a very rushed, incomplete ending. The acting and characters were great and the sets/sounds/costumes were fantastic. The writing (or lack thereof) at the end just ruined it.

    Think of all the major storylines that really were never adequately concluded or had no part in the final season:
    —Daenerys being the liberator/hero for seven seasons, all of a sudden becomes the crazy genocidal queen with just a few facial expressions and eye twitches to foreshadow it. Awful writing.
    —Night King and the White Walkers. One little poke is all it took? After being led to believe for years that they were the apocalypse personified.
    —The Golden Company is where?
    —Arya’s face-changing abilities meant nothing in the end
    —Bran’s warging abilities were also a waste of time
    Etc, etc, etc.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11500
    #1858431

    Think of all the major storylines that really were never adequately concluded or had no part in the final season:
    —Daenerys being the liberator/hero for seven seasons, all of a sudden becomes the crazy genocidal queen with just a few facial expressions and eye twitches to foreshadow it. Awful writing.
    —Night King and the White Walkers. One little poke is all it took? After being led to believe for years that they were the apocalypse personified.
    —The Golden Company is where?
    —Arya’s face-changing abilities meant nothing in the end
    —Bran’s warging abilities were also a waste of time

    Just to play devil’s advocate here:
    -Dany had plenty of foreshadowing a turn to the mad queen She burnt the Dothraki Khal’s alive, killed the master’s of Slaver’s Bay, and crucified the Mereenese. She also showed no signs of being content to sit on a throne and lead, it was always onto destroying the next adversary.
    -The Night King/WW/Long Night had happened before, they knew Valyrian steel could kill him, and if they killed the NK the rest would fall. That’s why Bran was used as bait.
    -The Golden Company was destroyed in short order by Drogons fire and Dany’s army in The Battle of Kings Landing.
    -Arya’s face changing and assassin skills learned in Bravos enabled her to kill the entire Frey clan as well as all the White Walkers…
    -Bran’s warging ability kept him alive (Hodor), and third eye raven seer abilities are likely the main reason he won the Game of Thrones.

    I agree most of these stories could/should have been drawn out further, but they had to end it somewhere and I thought it was an acceptable ending (rewatch the last episode and the scenes w/ Jon and Tyrion are exceptional). Plus D&D had a Star Wars trilogy to get to, so some details were missed, which is disappointing but doesn’t detract from the overall greatness of the show imo.

    Alagnak Pete
    Lakeville
    Posts: 346
    #1858437

    There’s just some things in life I won’t do like walk into the mall of america or watch garbage time sucking TV with dragons and unicorns and crap.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
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    #1858439

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    tucrs
    NW Metro
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    #1858449

    Suzuki… I am in the same boat as you. I never watched it. Probably never will.
    I had to ask my wife what GOT meant.

    I guess I will go back to building fishing rods now. Break time is over.

    wormdunker
    Posts: 574
    #1858485

    most of these stories could/should have been drawn out further, but they had to end it somewhere and I thought it was an acceptable ending (rewatch the last episode and the scenes w/ Jon and Tyrion are exceptional). Plus D&D had a Star Wars trilogy to get to, so some details were missed, which is disappointing but doesn’t detract from the overall greatness of the show imo.

    AND spend time on online fishing forums commenting on stuff that i consider a waste of time…… makes sense.

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