The mindset of an angler

  • arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1291716

    For those of you who haven’t fished with me I thought I’d share a small conversation I have with our customers. Beyond catching fish on the trip I want customers to become better anglers and hope to transfer some of what I’ve learned by fishing nearly everyday.

    Too often as anglers we’re looking for that “Lights Out” bite. You hear it and read about it all the time; Fish were SNAPPING BOYS!! We were RIP JIGGING……. Let’s be honest here. IMHO fisherman that consistently come dockside with a box of Walleyes are probably very versed at targeting and catching the Nuetral to negative fish. Fish have windows of activity and day to day this window is open and shut. Sometimes the window is open all day……but rarely. We’ll ALL catch the aggressive fish right? So consider this mindset the next time you are heading out to your favorite lake. Plan on the fish being a bit tough. Plan on having to think outside the box. Forget about that time 8 years ago before a storm when fish jumped in the boat for you. Erase the memory if only for the day when 38 years ago you and Grandpa drilled the tank fish on that spot. Fishing memories is dangerous when it comes to today’s angling. Again bites like this are RARE my friends, and precisely why you still remember them. For the past week we’ve frankly been on the toughest bite I’ve seen all summer. I’ve pulled my baseball cap off and scratched my head while muttering things to my Humminbird on multiple occassions. “WHERE ARE YOU FISH” “ODD” Things like this. I am competitive by nature and don’t like a “Hotdog with fins beating me”. The fish are currently full or just darn right grumpy. My “Milkrun” spots have nearly been VOID of fish. Fish are in very odd locations. I’d estimate based on what I’m viewing on my Humminbird, that we’re fishing 10% of the fish in an area. What I mean is a big percentage of those fish are seemingly sitting in “No-Mans Land” on some sort of fish vacation. We’ve all seen it; Those big hooks in 50-70ft of water. You CAN’T target them responsibly. Fish often times suspend deep during inclimate weather, or when they are simply not in a feeding mood. They COULD…….COULD be pounding the Ciscoes as well. Really hard to say without it simply being an opinion. So what we’ve dealt with is a reduced pod of Walleyes holding on fishable structure. THOSE fish that we have located have been rather fussy as well. Each year Walleye anglers will go through a stretch like this, and frankly it doesn’t matter the fishery. Rainy Lake……one of the BEST, but only a fool will lead you to believe the fishing is “Cake Angling”. I watch many experienced Walleye anglers step from their boat back dockside with a shamed look upon their face as they throw 2 walleyes and a small pike in the net heading to the cleaning shack.

    SO……What are your options? Play Cards…..Lawn Darts……Labatt’s pile up?? Many options I guess. For the guys that want to catch fish…..Let’s talk about making it happen when most anglers are NOT. MIND YOU….You may need to walk on the darkside for a moment. Open your mind.

    I mentioned earlier that I try get my customers up to speed on what we’ll be fishing on the ride out. If it’s lights out I’ll just say…….HANG ON we’ll light them up!! If it’s tough I’ll carefully depict precisely how we need to fish to have success. As a fishing guide you #1 job is to get your customers in the best mindset and Big fish playground you possbly can. You CANNOT shoot the fish, so these fish are going to have to eat in your 8 hour run. I’ve always felt customers learn much more from a fishing guide in tough conditions. You can watch as your guide breaks down a pattern, and reads structure. When he’s scratching his head…….He’s NOT BEAT, but having to dig in to try make it happen for you. It is here where you will learn something you probably don’t already know about that fishery. He’s going to the well of knowledge to try put a bend in your rod.

    Yesterday again was one of those days. We left the resort with multiple anglers muttering things like “Mayflies” and “Tough Bite” “Fishing was TOUGH”…..And so on. NOT a confidence builder for my customers. Still I told my guests that we’ve been averaging 30-40 Walleyes a day despite the conditions. Pretty decent considering some of those guys barking had caught 3 walleyes in the previous 2 days of fishing.

    LESS IS MORE!! SAY IT AND COMPREHEND WHAT IT MEANS. This is something I’ll commonly try explain to customers. I think guys and gals are often SO AMPED up for the trip they think they’ll make fish bite. I will keep jigging and ripping until something rips this rod out of my hand. BTW……..NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. You will effectively scare every negative and nuetral to Canada. BTW the Nuetral is NOT a dig on Canada. Talking fish…….SETTLE DOWN.

    Jig fishing………YEP we’re catching our fish jig fishing. I’m crazy that way. Most anglers think you’ll have to long line a lindy rig and let them crap out a crawler before you can set the hook in a tough bite. Well the truth of the matter is a 3/16 oz. H20 Precision jig with either a crawler or fathead will turn even the grumpiest fish when fished precisely how those fish demand it.

    First off you have to stay within the “Wheelhouse” of the fish. If your 8 feet of the bottom or LAYING on the bottom your going to have a tough day, and might as well call grandma to get the Lawn darts out of the cabin. Those fish aren’t coming up for you and aren’t scooping your presentation from the floor of Rainy Lake. You simply are exercising your casting shoulder. Slack line in your retrieve….NOPE……Not going to work. You need to elevate your game and set down your beef stick during this process to capture the fish that really don’t need to eat.

    First off this is NOT about equipment, but in all honesty I’ll outfish you with my Loomis NRX in a bite like this if you are fishing a lesser quality graphite bland. I PROMISE. There are times that equipment is hyped too much, but this……… isn’t one of them. I place a value on equipment based soley on how I belive it will increase my overall production. This……NO BRAINER. I lace up a Loomis NRX because it is the best suited rod in detecting and lacing up big fish in tough conditions. I will tell you 50 yards behind the boat when my 3/16 oz. jig goes from the clay to the start of the small rubble pile. It’s my Magic stick!!

    OK….You’ve worked your way through this post to get here. TENSION BITES. Some anglers already know precisely what I’m going to talk about. I can fish with my eyes closed and hold a conversation with you and then rip a big fish 60 yards behind the boat that many anglers will never know was there. Walleye anglers that are versed with pitching jigs in deep water understand what they are tyring to dectect or really don’t. If your the guy that feels for the bite on 3 or 4 pulls while watching your rod tip……Your NOT going to catch many fish in tough conditions. That fish will detect you before you detect the fish. The game is very simple…THE FIRST TIME that fish feels you she should experience a fin curling barb ripped into her mouth. DO NOT give her 3 or 4 chances to dump your presentation with a lead head. If you’ve brought your favorite “Ugly Stick” for this bite……..GOOD LUCK my friends. Nope you MIGHT not be able to break it in the trash compactor…….And that is too bad. A tension bite is what an angler detects when your jig feels like it was swimming through water and then to transfers into syrup. The Walleye has frankly inhaled your bait, but is swimming with you. You need to VERY quickly gain some tension on that fish and set yourself for a strong set. What you often feel is simply a very very slight weight or tension difference from your simple jig. Nuetral fish will blow out your presentation before most anglers ever realize what happened. This is precisely why I watch anglers rods. I had a customer say the otherday Chris knows when I’ve got a fish before I do. LOL!! If I say set it…..SET IT. The guy that can detect and effectively lace up this bite……WILL BE THE GUY WITH A BOX OF EYES AT THE DOCK EVEN IN TOUGH CONDITIONS. Again this is NOT about the spot or lake. This is a seasoned jig fisherman sharing what it takes to lace up big numbers of Walleyes when most everyone else…….IS NOT.

    Yesterday again pretty tough conditions. Yet we boxed a 12 fish limit of eyes. 10 of those fish were 16-16.75 inches just under the 17 inch throwback. 2 of those fish were smaller 13’s. The Dockboy said as I walked by…..”They always get em” LOL!! NOPE……BUT WE TRY.

    Good fishing team!!

    Beautiful fish Dale!!

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081765

    12 fish limit. Dale and Penny elected to use some fish for a Walleye dinner at Thunderbird Lodge!!

    I clean them…….They cook them……..You eat them!! Seems simple.

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081766

    At 40 yards behind the boat in a brisk wind this tanker was detected trying to nap a crawler off my H20 Precision jig. NOT SO FAST LITTLE FELLA!!

    Rainy lake success story. Nice to see these little guys as well. A guy told me last week. “Granrud I swear all you catch is BIG FISH. Everyday we see you or customers holding up big Walleyes for the Camera”. Well Bro….This Lil Guy is just for you!!

    a-and-t
    By Rochester,MN
    Posts: 708
    #1081773

    Nice analogy . Can’t wait to get their in a couple weeks to give our jig sticks a workout. Love that tick bite that you know that if you do not have a quality rod you not gonna catch em. Somtimes even on the best waters you have have a never give up attitude. Thurs. was that day for us. 4 hours of basically driving from area to area on the pond before we finally found somthing good . Did not keep a accurate count ,but went threw 3 dozen leeches and 4 dozen crawlers.

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081775

    Quote:


    Nice analogy . Can’t wait to get their in a couple weeks to give our jig sticks a workout. Love that tick bite that you know that if you do not have a quality rod you not gonna catch em. Somtimes even on the best waters you have have a never give up attitude. Thurs. was that day for us. 4 hours of basically driving from area to area on the pond before we finally found somthing good . Did not keep a accurate count ,but went threw 3 dozen leeches and 4 dozen crawlers.


    Based on what you went through…….LOTS OF WALLEYES. UNLESS Tucker was eating them. BTW based on some of your pics…..He could afford to eat a Crawler Sandwich.

    Good job bud!!

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1055946

    I always enjoy reading your posts

    current-break
    ROCK ISLAND, ILLINOIS
    Posts: 90
    #1081787

    Great post.
    I have been looking at the NRX rods. What models do you use
    your jig fishing

    thanks

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #1081789

    Just Curious… IYO, how comparable are the NRX’s vs a St. Croix Legend Xtremes ?? I’m very familiar with the LX, but haven’t tried any G. Loomis rods…

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #1081793

    I absolutely agree Chris…and been saying this around here for several years. The nano-technology we have watched progress in carbon rod construction todate is amazing…We greatly benefit from the intense competition in the marketplace to have the “best” walleye rod.
    It is when they are NOT biting that the Loomis NRX or St. Croix Extreme rods shine. (Quantum, Fenwick, TFO and others are building some great rods too) I too have watched line twitch on a client’s rod on numerous occasions, and when they didn’t react I would tell them, “you missed one”…then put my XS69MLXF in their hands and wait for the “WOW”, I can really feel the bottom now…

    FWIW…Some great new technology coming out next week at ICAST from the top rod makers…I advise everyone to be patient and wait to see what comes out for 2013!

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081798

    Quote:


    Great post.
    I have been looking at the NRX rods. What models do you use
    your jig fishing

    thanks


    Shoot me a PM and we’ll discuss based on what your fishing, techiques….. and so on.

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081799

    Quote:


    I always enjoy reading your posts


    Thanks Jeff. I’ll keep writing if you keep reading.

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081801

    Quote:


    Just Curious… IYO, how comparable are the NRX’s vs a St. Croix Legend Xtremes ?? I’m very familiar with the LX, but haven’t tried any G. Loomis rods…


    First off BOTH trememndous sticks. I’d say I’m partial to the Loomis NRX and frankly not sure I can explain precisely why. Both very light and balanced sticks. Both graphite blanks allow a tick at 50 yards felt like a pulse in your finger tip. This is truly only ever felt in high end rods. Anglers have NEVER felt or experienced this with most rods on the market. Just plain and simple.

    Why the NRX for me? Confidence, True even load through the blank, Split grip that I believe also allows that bite to transfer to my hand in feel……..Not sure precisely. I will say I’ve used both and like both. If both are in my boat I’ll give you the elite and use the NRX.

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081803

    Quote:


    I absolutely agree Chris…and been saying this around here for several years. The nano-technology we have watched progress in carbon rod construction todate is amazing…We greatly benefit from the intense competition in the marketplace to have the “best” walleye rod.
    It is when they are NOT biting that the Loomis NRX or St. Croix Extreme rods shine. (Quantum, Fenwick, TFO and others are building some great rods too) I too have watched line twitch on a client’s rod on numerous occasions, and when they didn’t react I would tell them, “you missed one”…then put my XS69MLXF in their hands and wait for the “WOW”, I can really feel the bottom now…

    FWIW…Some great new technology coming out next week at ICAST from the top rod makers…I advise everyone to be patient and wait to see what comes out for 2013!


    Anglers that don’t believe in the new technology found within high end graphite blanks often haven’t had one in hand. Don’t get me wrong these rods are NOT cheap, and if you don’t want to own one or hate your current sticks I’d suggest disregarding my words here. YEP they are THAT good.

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #1081804

    What is the comparable Loomis model to the Croix LX 6’9″ ML XF? (And/or which Loomis model/length do you find in your boat the most often…)

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #1081810

    Quote:


    Anglers that don’t believe in the new technology found within high end graphite blanks often haven’t had one in hand. Don’t get me wrong these rods are NOT cheap, and if you don’t want to own one or hate your current sticks I’d suggest disregarding my words here. YEP they are THAT good.


    At the river this spring we were fishing side by side to a number of other boats… We were pitching blades, and so were many of the other guys. On that particular day, we outfished pretty much all of the other guys… (Not bragging, its just the way it was). Our boat had at least a few LX’s, which really helped us feel the light blades in the current… The MN boat next to us said “You guys sure outfished me today… And I don’t say that often to a WI boat…” They were nice guys and we all got a chuckle out of it, but I do think the top end rods can help out in many situtations.

    Nice post, Mr. Granrud

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081814

    Quote:


    What is the comparable Loomis model to the Croix LX 6’9″ ML XF? (And/or which Loomis model/length do you find in your boat the most often…)


    IMHO there is a big stepdown from the NRX within the Loomis line. Again…..MY OPINION.

    Here is where I’d rank rods.

    1. Loomis NRX series
    2. St. Croix Legend Elite
    3. St. Croix Tournament series

    Again JUST MY OPINION. BTW I own them all.

    I prefer the 6’10 Mag Medium. I believe most anglers would recognize the feel of this stick as a Med.Light.

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081816

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Anglers that don’t believe in the new technology found within high end graphite blanks often haven’t had one in hand. Don’t get me wrong these rods are NOT cheap, and if you don’t want to own one or hate your current sticks I’d suggest disregarding my words here. YEP they are THAT good.


    At the river this spring we were fishing side by side to a number of other boats… We were pitching blades, and so were many of the other guys. On that particular day, we outfished pretty much all of the other guys… (Not bragging, its just the way it was). Our boat had at least a few LX’s, which really helped us feel the light blades in the current… The MN boat next to us said “You guys sure outfished me today… And I don’t say that often to a WI boat…” They were nice guys and we all got a chuckle out of it, but I do think the top end rods can help out in many situtations.

    Nice post, Mr. Granrud


    Some people are guys that prefer to fear change. They discredit evolution within the fishing industry. I see it and respond to it OFTEN. IMHO product enhancements continue to give anglers advantages and there is nothing more important than a good stick. Will it make you a better angler…..WITHOUT ANY QUESTION.

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #1081823

    Quote:


    Some people are guys that prefer to fear change.


    Some fear change… Some fear not having any change left (in their wallets…)

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081826

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Some people are guys that prefer to fear change.


    Some fear change… Some fear not having any change left (in their wallets…)


    There is a very close relationship between the two bud!! Sometimes it can be a simple matter of economics.

    sandmannd
    Posts: 928
    #1081829

    Excellent post Chris, I really enjoyed reading it.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #1081837

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Quote:


    Anglers that don’t believe in the new technology found within high end graphite blanks often haven’t had one in hand. Don’t get me wrong these rods are NOT cheap, and if you don’t want to own one or hate your current sticks I’d suggest disregarding my words here. YEP they are THAT good.


    At the river this spring we were fishing side by side to a number of other boats… We were pitching blades, and so were many of the other guys. On that particular day, we outfished pretty much all of the other guys… (Not bragging, its just the way it was). Our boat had at least a few LX’s, which really helped us feel the light blades in the current… The MN boat next to us said “You guys sure outfished me today… And I don’t say that often to a WI boat…” They were nice guys and we all got a chuckle out of it, but I do think the top end rods can help out in many situtations.

    Nice post, Mr. Granrud


    Some people are guys that prefer to fear change. They discredit evolution within the fishing industry. I see it and respond to it OFTEN. IMHO product enhancements continue to give anglers advantages and there is nothing more important than a good stick. Will it make you a better angler…..WITHOUT ANY QUESTION.


    Whitt, I have had the same experience on P-4 with the same rod choice (Thank You, Dean Marshall! ) The LX69MLXF is such a perfect match for casting smaller blades…
    I am hoping to try an NRX soon, just to “feel” it.

    Chris, you know a trip with you is on my “bucket list”. maybe you can fish with me on P-4 March or April? Then I can gauge if this “old guy” can compete up there on Rainy Lake…

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081843

    Quote:


    Excellent post Chris, I really enjoyed reading it.


    Glad to add some fun to your day man!!

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1081844

    Hey Tom,

    There is no doubt in my mind you’ll be able to “Compete” Tom.

    As for fishing with me; If you like to fish. If you enjoy the chase of big fish. If you like to bump knuckles after a nice fish. If you have ever yelled and pumped your fist when landing a tanker…..We’ll get along like old buddies!! We’re bit crazy up here and as I’ve said before……Rarely BLEND WELL!!

    For many years I’ve attempted to fill my schedule with friends whom like to fish. This way Guiding never becomes work. I’m JUST about there. Just looking for a few more friends to chase the elusive fish of Rainy lake.

    Thanks for the invite to Pool 4. In all honesty my fishing is simply taking place on The lake and river up here. When I’m off the lake I’m heading to the woods.

    dr-death
    Phillips, WI
    Posts: 155
    #1082501

    I’ve been a St. Croix guy for a long time, and my modest budget doesn’t include $350.00 rods. For jigging, I am very happy with my 6’8″ MXF Avids. I was REALLY happy with it this spring on the Rainy River when I had a 10 lb. tank smash a pulseR. I love the feel & the response. Great blade rod too! Lots of better rods out there, but Avids suit me just fine. Just my opinion.

    arklite881south
    Posts: 5660
    #1082871

    Quote:


    I’ve been a St. Croix guy for a long time, and my modest budget doesn’t include $350.00 rods. For jigging, I am very happy with my 6’8″ MXF Avids. I was REALLY happy with it this spring on the Rainy River when I had a 10 lb. tank smash a pulseR. I love the feel & the response. Great blade rod too! Lots of better rods out there, but Avids suit me just fine. Just my opinion.


    The Avids from St. Croix are great rods.

Viewing 26 posts - 1 through 26 (of 26 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.