cops shoot a dog…

  • phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #955251

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    So… if instead of an attack dog, it was a packer fan in the back yard… do you think they would give the police a medal?


    bzzsaw
    Hudson, Wi
    Posts: 3484
    #955252

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    So… if instead of an attack dog, it was a packer fan in the back yard… do you think they would give the police a medal?


    Dave,
    The cops would have needed to use a pretty big gun to take down a PACKER fan. Probably would have taken more than 2 shots too.

    drew-evans
    rochester MN
    Posts: 1099
    #955316

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    I’ve been threatened and barked at by plenty of mean looking dogs. And somehow I’ve managed to live for 55 years without having to shoot any of them.

    Rootski


    X100 between riding my bike through the country when i was young to stopping and asking for hunting permision all across the state i have been charged by mean looking dogs manny times and have never had to hurt any of them either i peddled my bike faster (could have got of yard in cops case) or stood my ground/ or jumped back into my car (police in this case could not do this) that being said i have never had to hurt a dog that has tried to attack me or looked as if it were to attack me. i think cops could have reacted differently but i was not there and can not fault them for doing what they did.

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #955352

    Cops have a pretty clear agenda when on foot chasing a baddie, so I don’t think there is a win-win of any kind here. Its too bad it happened this way, but why not mace the dog? I suppose the dog’s owner would complain about that too. Its just a bad thing all around.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22550
    #955354

    It’s unfortunate what happened… especially for the dog The bigger issue I see is, somebody always has to BLAME somebody else. The old cause and effect.. “because” some guy was fleeing the police, a innocent dog owner, lost his pet. I have known many dogs who will “protect” their owner or property. We had a fmaily dog as kids, best dog in the world, wouldn’t hurt a flea, would bark when somebody came. Never was she trained to attack or show even teeth to someone, stranger or not. But one time, I remember this like it was yesterday…we were out in the yard and the oldman grabs my older brother and starts rough housing/wrestling with him…. Mickey just attacks the old man, nipping him hard, so he let go of my brother…. that right there was “instinct” and I assume this is what the cops got too… if the oldman wouldn’t have stoppped, she probably would have really let him have it I guess I find fault, only with the guy who was being chased, if we must attach fault.

    Bassn Dan
    Posts: 981
    #955374

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    I’ve been threatened and barked at by plenty of mean looking dogs. And somehow I’ve managed to live for 55 years without having to shoot any of them.

    Rootski


    X100 between riding my bike through the country when i was young to stopping and asking for hunting permision all across the state i have been charged by mean looking dogs manny times and have never had to hurt any of them either i peddled my bike faster (could have got of yard in cops case) or stood my ground/ or jumped back into my car (police in this case could not do this) that being said i have never had to hurt a dog that has tried to attack me or looked as if it were to attack me. i think cops could have reacted differently but i was not there and can not fault them for doing what they did.


    Pedaling faster on a bike is not always an option to avoid an aggressive dog.

    A few years ago I had a German Shepard leap out of corn field and land kamikaze-style under the front wheel of my bike. I went over the handle bars and the dog was REALLY PO’ed that I had “attacked” him. I used the bike to fend him off while I was slipping the mag into the “dog repeller” that I had in my bike pack. Fortunately for the dog, the owner’s kid came out and got him under control before the dog got “repelled” permanently.

    So the moral of the story: While pedaling faster to avoid a dog bite is “Option 1” it’s best to have another option available if needed.

    Dan

    mojogunter
    Posts: 3318
    #955451

    Based on a couple of your posts, just to be clear on what you are saying. You carry a hand gun with you for protection while you ride your bike, and logic would then say that you must have a gun in your house. Would it be alright for you to shoot someone that breaks into your house while you were home in self defense, because you felt that this intruder was a threat to you or your family, but in the same scenario with the only difference in how the threat is resolved is instead of myself shooting the intruder my Giant Schnauzer either kills the intruder, or in the very least causes great bodily harm much like a gun shot would. You would be in the right, and I should be charged with a crime for owning a dog that bit an intruder?

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    Pedaling faster on a bike is not always an option to avoid an aggressive dog.

    A few years ago I had a German Shepard leap out of corn field and land kamikaze-style under the front wheel of my bike. I went over the handle bars and the dog was REALLY PO’ed that I had “attacked” him. I used the bike to fend him off while I was slipping the mag into the “dog repeller” that I had in my bike pack. Fortunately for the dog, the owner’s kid came out and got him under control before the dog got “repelled” permanently.

    So the moral of the story: While pedaling faster to avoid a dog bite is “Option 1” it’s best to have another option available if needed.

    Dan


    dave-barber
    St Francis, MN
    Posts: 2100
    #955452

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    Quote:


    So… if instead of an attack dog, it was a packer fan in the back yard… do you think they would give the police a medal?


    Dave,
    The cops would have needed to use a pretty big gun to take down a PACKER fan. Probably would have taken more than 2 shots too.


    the REAL question is… how many clips do they have and would they save any rounds for the loose felon or would them empty all of their clips on the Packer fan???

    Bassn Dan
    Posts: 981
    #955478

    People can make an intelligent decision to use or not use deadly force.

    That’s far from the case with aggressive breed dogs whose default reaction to any situation is KILL, KILL, KILL…

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    Based on a couple of your posts, just to be clear on what you are saying. You carry a hand gun with you for protection while you ride your bike, and logic would then say that you must have a gun in your house. Would it be alright for you to shoot someone that breaks into your house while you were home in self defense, because you felt that this intruder was a threat to you or your family, but in the same scenario with the only difference in how the threat is resolved is instead of myself shooting the intruder my Giant Schnauzer either kills the intruder, or in the very least causes great bodily harm much like a gun shot would. You would be in the right, and I should be charged with a crime for owning a dog that bit an intruder?

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    Pedaling faster on a bike is not always an option to avoid an aggressive dog.

    A few years ago I had a German Shepard leap out of corn field and land kamikaze-style under the front wheel of my bike. I went over the handle bars and the dog was REALLY PO’ed that I had “attacked” him. I used the bike to fend him off while I was slipping the mag into the “dog repeller” that I had in my bike pack. Fortunately for the dog, the owner’s kid came out and got him under control before the dog got “repelled” permanently.

    So the moral of the story: While pedaling faster to avoid a dog bite is “Option 1” it’s best to have another option available if needed.

    Dan



    nick
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 4977
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    I also think the police dog bs in the news is redicoulous, the dog is trained to attack and cause harm, how is it not police brutality!? Beck they are darn near sworn in officers now, they should be held accountable to the same standards.


    You’re wrong there. A police dog is a use of force, much like physical restraint, pepper spray, a taser, or a firearm. Police operate on a heirarchy of force, and the crime and situation deterimines how much force is required/accepted. The dog is a tool. They’re not turning a dog loose on someone for loitering. The situation dictates the dog’s use.


    I fully understand how the system works, I just think a dog for a attack weapon is archaic, and shouldn’t be used, I’m all for dogs on the force, the have plenty of useful skills aside from attacking perps.

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