cops shoot a dog…

  • phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    April 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm #1271661

    http://www.wave3.com/story/14398291/dog-killed-during-police-foot-chase

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    LOUISVILLE, KY (WAVE) – One man is in custody after a home invasion and foot chase that left a family’s pet dog dead when it was shot by police inside its owner’s yard.

    24-year-old Dijon E. Barlow is facing several felony charges including running from police, resisting arrest, and criminal trespassing.

    It started around 6 p.m. in the 600 block of Lindell Avenue. Police say Barlow took off on foot and ran into another backyard where a dog attacked the officers who were chasing the suspect.

    “I looked over, my dog was hollering, and there was blood everywhere. He went inside his dog house and died,” dog owner Michelle Damron said about her 6-year-old Doberman Pinscher, Rocco.

    LMPD Lt. Joe Manning says the officer did what had to be done and acted in self defense.

    “A dog attacked the suspect and officers. The dog started focusing on officers, and in order to defend themselves, one officer fired two shots,” Manning said.

    That’s little consolation for the dog’s owner who raised him from the time he was just three days old.

    “I think something ought to be done, not just an apology. An apology doesn’t stop his hurt, doesn’t stop my hurt, doesn’t bring back my dog,” Damron said.

    Barlow was arrested a short time later in the 600 block of S. 35th Street, just north of Broadway. No injuries were reported.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    April 7, 2011 at 4:01 pm #954893

    Yes, I agree.

    They should make it a crime and charge 24-year-old Dijon E. Barlow with unintentional murder.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    April 7, 2011 at 4:07 pm #954894

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    Yes, I agree.

    They should make it a crime and charge 24-year-old Dijon E. Barlow with unintentional murder.

    X2
    I’m sure some how the public will turn this against the officer though

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    April 7, 2011 at 4:08 pm #954895

    Quote:

    Yes, I agree.

    They should make it a crime and charge 24-year-old Dijon E. Barlow with unintentional murder.

    or maybe charge the officers with something, or at a minimum walk them out the door with their personal effects.

    what right does an officer have to come into your private property and shoot your dog?

    i’ve got an answer for them – Private Property, do not enter.

    what if the homeowner would have come outside with a weapon after hearing the commotion and seeing the suspect being attacked? would the police have shot her too?

    just another one of many bad shoots by cops these days.

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    April 7, 2011 at 4:09 pm #954897

    Quote:

    Quote:

    Yes, I agree.

    They should make it a crime and charge 24-year-old Dijon E. Barlow with unintentional murder.

    X2
    I’m sure some how the public will turn this against the officer though

    it is the officers fault, how is it not?

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    April 7, 2011 at 4:11 pm #954899

    You’re kidding right?

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    April 7, 2011 at 4:13 pm #954901

    What do you expect the cops to do, let the suspect flee onto private property, and watch him run away? They had to chase him, the dog attacked and they defended themselves.

    I feel for the owner, but I can understand what the police did.

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    April 7, 2011 at 4:15 pm #954902

    I am not for charging the scumbag with murder….murder puts the dogs life on par with a human life – and that ain’t good…..it would only serve to fuel the animal rights groups……

    But……I think it’d be fair to buy the dog owner a new puppy and when it is mature, let the dog and the criminal sort it out to the owners satisfaction…..

    Seems fair to me.

    T

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    April 7, 2011 at 4:19 pm #954904

    Ouch….touchy subject here, I can see it from both sides of the fence, the cops and the dog owners. There’s my .02 cents, enjoy

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    April 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm #954905

    Quote:

    Quote:

    Quote:

    Yes, I agree.

    They should make it a crime and charge 24-year-old Dijon E. Barlow with unintentional murder.

    X2
    I’m sure some how the public will turn this against the officer though

    it is the officers fault, how is it not?

    So the officer doesn’t enter the property chasing the person with felony charges being brought against them and the “real criminal” beats the urine out of the home owner or worse, kills them.
    Are you going to stick up for the cops for not entering private property now? I’ll bet not

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    April 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm #954906

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    I feel for the owner, but I can understand what the police did.

    X2

    If our Floyd were to attack a cop, I would expect they would dispatch him as they deem necessary.

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5651
    April 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm #954907

    I’ve been threatened and barked at by plenty of mean looking dogs. And somehow I’ve managed to live for 55 years without having to shoot any of them.

    Rootski

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    April 7, 2011 at 4:23 pm #954908

    Let me predicate this with, unless there is more to the story.

    Sounds to me like the owner is looking for a payday.

    Quote:

    “I think something ought to be done, not just an apology. An apology doesn’t stop his hurt, doesn’t stop my hurt, doesn’t bring back my dog,” Damron said.



    Does he want to wipe his tears with $100 bills, will that stop the hurt?

    Edit: This is just what I thought right away. I should give the guy a break, as I’d probably say the same things right afterward and even be mad at the cops initially.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    April 7, 2011 at 4:24 pm #954910

    Quote:

    I’ve been threatened and barked at by plenty of mean looking dogs. And somehow I’ve managed to live for 55 years without having to shoot any of them.

    Rootski


    Have you been attacked?

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    April 7, 2011 at 4:26 pm #954911

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    what if the homeowner would have come outside with a weapon after hearing the commotion and seeing the suspect being attacked? would the police have shot her too?

    If she threatened the cops with said weapon, I suspect she’d be at least tased. They didn’t just shoot the dog for the heck of it. It attacked them. Can’t really blame the dog, but the cops needed to defend themselves. A dobie will do some damage to soft tissue!

    All in all, it’s an unfortunate event. I don’t think the police nor the dog/dog owner are at fault. Just one of life’s little kicks in the groin

    AverageSportsman
    SE MN
    Posts: 178
    April 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm #954912

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    Yes, I agree.

    or maybe charge the officers with something, or at a minimum walk them out the door with their personal effects.

    what right does an officer have to come into your private property and shoot your dog?

    i’ve got an answer for them – Private Property, do not enter.

    what if the homeowner would have come outside with a weapon after hearing the commotion and seeing the suspect being attacked? would the police have shot her too?

    just another one of many bad shoots by cops these days.

    Your private property should have signage stating “Criminals welcome, please use as your own private sanctuary!” “Don’t worry, police not welcome!”

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    April 7, 2011 at 4:32 pm #954917

    Happens all the time in North MPLS:

    Quote:

    DOGS IN NORTH Minneapolis are more likely to be killed by police than canines from any other part of the city. In the past five years, Minneapolis cops have killed at least 113 dogs; 81 of them—72 percent—were killed in North.

    Full Story from City Pages City Pages Story

    And that is just North MPLS, those number don’t include all of MPLs or any of St Paul. And only count police shootings. Wonder how may dogs get capped by other people?

    -J.

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    April 7, 2011 at 4:35 pm #954919

    pepper spray will stop a dog too…

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5651
    April 7, 2011 at 4:36 pm #954920

    Quote:

    Quote:
    I’ve been threatened and barked at by plenty of mean looking dogs. And somehow I’ve managed to live for 55 years without having to shoot any of them.

    Rootski

    Have you been attacked?

    According to the police spokesman:

    “The dog started focusing on officers, and in order to defend themselves, one officer fired two shots,” Manning said.”

    So “focusing” on a cop is enough justification for him to discharge a firearm?

    whiskeyandwater
    ????
    Posts: 2014
    April 7, 2011 at 4:42 pm #954925

    Ah these post may very well be the answer to question Number 3. Just sayin’.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    April 7, 2011 at 4:46 pm #954928

    Quote:

    “The dog started focusing on officers, and in order to defend themselves, one officer fired two shots,” Manning said.”

    So “focusing” on a cop is enough justification for him to discharge a firearm?

    Did you conveniently leave off “A dog attacked the suspect and officers.”? That is how the quote begins.

    Here is the deal with this story. It’s going to fire up a lot of emotions with us dog people because we put ourselves in the shoes of the owner and the cops. But none of us can claim they know exactly what happened, how it happened or what it was literally like to be in the cops shoes. So I can understand both sides.

    In this case (IMO) I have to give the cops the benefit of the doubt. I doubt they willy nilly shot a dog while pursuing a suspect.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4501
    April 7, 2011 at 4:47 pm #954929

    I feel horrible for the owner.

    I am sure that the cops would do it differently if they had to do it over again. That said, I dont think the majority of us can understand what it is like to feel our lives threatened from multiple fronts. To second guess the way they chose to respond under the circumstances or to look to punish the officers in any way is pretty irresponsible.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    April 7, 2011 at 4:51 pm #954933

    Quote:

    pepper spray will stop a dog too…

    X2

    Capped???? we b kool I guess huh???

    Al

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5651
    April 7, 2011 at 4:52 pm #954934

    Quote:

    But none of us can claim they know exactly what happened, how it happened or what it was literally like to be in the cops shoes. So I can understand both sides.

    You’re right.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    April 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm #954937

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    If our Floyd were to attack a cop, I would expect they would dispatch him as they deem necessary.

    Me being an owner of two angle nippers, I’m going to say that took a lot to say the Ryan.

    Let say I shot 3 ducks over limit. The CO was watching me and others from a distance and sees I’m over limit. He starts coming my way and I take off running. I’m running through private property and a 3rd party dog starts attacking me and the CO (the good guy that’s doing his job). As the criminal (bad guy) wouldn’t I want the officer(s) to protect my law breaking azz?

    Now if I was the dogs owner I was be wildly upset that this criminal trespassed and caused the CO to harm my pet.

    Parting thought…Wonder if it was the criminal that apologized or the officers?

    inge66
    Posts: 366
    April 7, 2011 at 5:13 pm #954940

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    You’re kidding right?

    I agree totally and will leave this subject alone. There are sure some nieve people out there. WOW

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4056
    April 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm #954943

    Bad situation for sure…

    My first thought after reading the story is that the cop had to protect himself. I’ve never owned a dog that would attack anyone, so its hard for me to really put myself in the owner’s shoes. To me it seems like a liability to own a dog that would attack, but I guess there is no way to ever know for sure.

    What if the story were a little different and it was a young kid who had wandered into the backyard and was attacked by the dog? Then Dad goes over to saves the kid and is attacked too, so he injures or kills the dog in self-defense.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    April 7, 2011 at 5:19 pm #954944

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    pepper spray will stop a dog too…

    Sure it will, but being that they likely had firearms drawn in this pursuit, I doubt that the officer in question would have been able to holster his gun, pull out his pepper spray, and effectively spray the dog all while being chewed on by a doberman.

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    April 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm #954948

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    I doubt that the officer in question would have been able to holster his gun, pull out his pepper spray, and effectively spray the dog all while being chewed on by a doberman.

    Also, when attempting to apprehend a felon I do not think the gun is going in the holster. I know I would not be switching to a non lethal weapon while dealing with a felon.

    It is a very unfortunate event and I am sure the police officers did what they had to do. I am sure they feel bad about it and are not sitting around high fiving like you might suggest.

    mule170
    Bemidji
    Posts: 299
    April 7, 2011 at 5:46 pm #954950

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    Yes, I agree.

    or maybe charge the officers with something, or at a minimum walk them out the door with their personal effects.

    what right does an officer have to come into your private property and shoot your dog?

    i’ve got an answer for them – Private Property, do not enter.

    what if the homeowner would have come outside with a weapon after hearing the commotion and seeing the suspect being attacked? would the police have shot her too?

    just another one of many bad shoots by cops these days.

    Your private property should have signage stating “Criminals welcome, please use as your own private sanctuary!” “Don’t worry, police not welcome!”

    x2!!

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