Proposed 2 line bill

  • cat dude
    Arlington, MN
    Posts: 1389
    #1271154

    Sounds like the 2 line bill for open water is opposed by the DNR.

    I do not know for sure if I am for or against this new proposed bill.

    I would like to see it for catfishing and when I troll for eyes.

    I am also concerned about how it could possibly hurt our resourse.

    How do others feel?

    hisser
    Chatfield, Mn
    Posts: 158
    #944990

    I struggle to see how it could hurt the resources, the limit will be the same.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #944993

    I’m a fan of the 2 line bill. Despite the potential fish mortality caused by the less than adept fisherman.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #944994

    The limit isn’t the problem, it’s the catch and release guys that fish with slip bobbers and lindy rigs where the walleyes take the bait too deep and die.

    That’s what the DNR and other Pros feel will cause a decline in the walleye population. When people aren’t catching walleyes, resorts, guides and anglers jump on the “more stocking” bandwagon and this causes the DNR to spend more money on stocking. Money they don’t have.

    …and as I was told in a discussion with a room full of Professionals…”if you want to use two lines for catfish, go to Iowa”.

    smackem
    Iowa Marshall Co
    Posts: 956
    #945006

    Hey I heard that

    mnwalleyeangler
    Posts: 196
    #945030

    pretty soon there will be a stamp you have to buy to fish 2 rods . im totally for usind 2 poles. musky fishing in the fall i would finaly be able to cast while dragging a sucker. and also troll 2 leadcores on mille lacs instead of 1 in the summer…BRING ON THAT BILL!

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #945036

    Quote:


    The limit isn’t the problem, it’s the catch and release guys that fish with slip bobbers and lindy rigs where the walleyes take the bait too deep and die.

    That’s what the DNR and other Pros feel will cause a decline in the walleye population. When people aren’t catching walleyes, resorts, guides and anglers jump on the “more stocking” bandwagon and this causes the DNR to spend more money on stocking. Money they don’t have.

    …and as I was told in a discussion with a room full of Professionals…”if you want to use two lines for catfish, go to Iowa”.


    Mandatory use of circle hooks would certainly help with this problem.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #945056

    It is only going to happen if our voices drown out the DNR and their special interest species fishing groups. Color me overoptimistic on this one.

    The best shot from what I hear is 2 lines on some major rivers. Baby steps.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #945067

    Brian,

    I will be supporting this measure once again this session – hopefully we can get it adopted into law.

    Steve.

    Steve Drazkowski
    State Representative
    District 28B
    Room 247 State Office Building
    100 Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
    St. Paul, MN 55155-1298
    Office: 651-296-2273
    Fax: 651-297-7523
    Toll Free: 888-683-3436
    Sign up for email updates at http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/join.asp?id=15286

    I will be voting in favor of two line fishing.

    Peggy

    Representative Peggy Scott
    District 49A
    477 State Office Building
    100 Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
    St. Paul, MN 55155
    651-296-4231
    Fax:
    Email: [email protected]

    Brian, Thx for your input, Denny

    Representative Denny McNamara
    Dist.57B
    Chair of the Committee on Environment, Energy
    and Natural Resources Policy and Finance
    375 State Office Building
    100 Rev.Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
    St. Paul, Mn. 55155-1298
    Phone (651) 296-3135

    *Denny doesn’t sound sold, but he did reply.

    That’s all the replies I received from the 14 emails sent.

    How do you think the vote will go?

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #945068

    Quote:


    Sounds like the 2 line bill for open water is opposed by the DNR.

    I do not know for sure if I am for or against this new proposed bill.

    I would like to see it for catfishing and when I troll for eyes.

    I am also concerned about how it could possibly hurt our resourse.

    How do others feel?


    Good. I hope it never passes.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #945081

    Quote:


    Good. I hope it never passes.



    I hope it passes just to tick you off.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #945083

    AND you can’t get parts for your Jiffy anymore.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #945085

    Even if it passed state wide, there would be special regs on hundreds of lakes like there is today. I would expect a lake like Mille Lacs would never allow 2 lines. It would screw up the harvest formulas they use to control harvest.

    -J.

    SLACK
    HASTINGS, MN
    Posts: 711
    #945086

    the DNR does not support this it’s a good thing we have all these self serving polititions to shove stuff down our throats

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #945100

    I’m not sure I understand the opposition. Allowing two lines might help you catch more fish, but it won’t force you to keep fish. I understand that a certain % of fish will die after being caught and released. I also understand that more people will theoretically catch and keep their limit with two lines. I think that’s a good thing. Why shouldn’t we increase catching (two lines) while decreasing keeping (more restrictive limits)? More catching = more people interested in the sport = more time and money invested in the resource.

    kroger3
    blaine mn
    Posts: 1116
    #945109

    I will just keep putting my money into the Wisconsin DNR and supporting how they run there resources…

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #945111

    I agree that the WI DNR doesn’t do as good a job as MN, but I’m not sure the # of lines has anything to do with it.

    Also, why do we allow two lines in the winter?!?

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #945121

    Quote:


    I agree that the WI DNR doesn’t do as good a job as MN, but I’m not sure the # of lines has anything to do with it.

    Also, why do we allow two lines in the winter?!?


    Because back in the day if you were willing to spud two holes threw 24″ of ice you deserved two lines.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #945122

    Quote:


    Also, why do we allow two lines in the winter?!?



    I am sure that is partially due to lower mortality of fish in colder water. I believe the lower mortality rate is mostly due to their lower metabolism.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #945124

    Quote:


    lower mortality rate is mostly due to their lower metabolism.


    while being pulled out of 30 fow.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #945158

    Quote:


    Quote:


    lower mortality rate is mostly due to their lower metabolism.


    while being pulled out of 30 fow.



    I didn’t do the study. Maybe if they choke on their own swim bladder, that goes under natural causes, not hook mortality.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #945159

    I for one would be willing to pay a little extra to fish two lines if that need would arise to get the two line bill to go through.

    cat dude
    Arlington, MN
    Posts: 1389
    #945181

    Quote:


    The limit isn’t the problem, it’s the catch and release guys that fish with slip bobbers and lindy rigs where the walleyes take the bait too deep and die.

    That’s what the DNR and other Pros feel will cause a decline in the walleye population. When people aren’t catching walleyes, resorts, guides and anglers jump on the “more stocking” bandwagon and this causes the DNR to spend more money on stocking. Money they don’t have.

    …and as I was told in a discussion with a room full of Professionals…”if you want to use two lines for catfish, go to Iowa”.


    Exaclty why I am not so sure about this bill.

    In regards to the use of circle hooks, if they are caught in deeper water and espically in the hot months, the circle hooks will not help that much.

    Walleyebry
    Isle, mn.
    Posts: 145
    #945362

    I think the two line bill should pass with some provisions. I can see some issues with it in some circumstances. Example, pontoon pulls up to mudflat or rockpile with ten people on board. They have 20 lines out while drinking and having good time. Will they be paying enough attention to all those lines? Or are some of the fish that are caught going to swallow the hook. Not only that, but they would take up a huge chunk of prime area. I believe the bill would pass if 2 lines are only used for trolling artificial baits only. Just my two cents,

    Walleyebry #993

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #945364

    I call discrimination!

    Not all pontoon owners are drunks.

    SLACK
    HASTINGS, MN
    Posts: 711
    #945401

    Quote:


    I think the two line bill should pass with some provisions. I can see some issues with it in some circumstances. Example, pontoon pulls up to mudflat or rockpile with ten people on board. They have 20 lines out while drinking and having good time. Will they be paying enough attention to all those lines? Or are some of the fish that are caught going to swallow the hook. Not only that, but they would take up a huge chunk of prime area. I believe the bill would pass if 2 lines are only used for trolling artificial baits only. Just my two cents,
    Walleyebry #993


    can you imagin 4 guys in a ranger trolling with planer boards? thats 8 lines covering a swath of water the width of a football field.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #945442

    Doesn’t a pontoon occupy the same amount of “prime” area no matter how many lines there are?

    While we are at it, I think we need to put a max outboard of 10hp because people can move around to much, actually find fish and catch and release as many as they want. That leads to high mortality.

    Walleyebry
    Isle, mn.
    Posts: 145
    #945815

    Keep in mind that when your running boards, your outside boards are the limit of your spread. What I mean is it can take the same area to run 2 boards as it does to run 8. Ive fished 4 great lakes and many inland lakes. I’ve yet to see anybody running 8 boards on an inland lake even if that States rules permit it. As far as pontoons taking up lots of area it is true, but with twice as many lines they take up even more area. Sorry you guys find faults with everything I mention, but over my 50 years, I’ve spent alot of time on the water.
    Walleyebry #993

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #945818

    Quote:


    As far as pontoons taking up lots of area it is true, but with twice as many lines they take up even more area. Sorry you guys find faults with everything I mention, but over my 50 years, I’ve spent alot of time on the water.

    Walleyebry #993




    It is a discussion. Relax. No need to pull out your play your fishing veteran status card.

    Do you think there will be an epidemic of 10 drunk people in pontoon boats using twenty lines?

    My point is that there are plenty of arguments against this without bringing in some oddly concocted scenario.

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