Torque Converter on Ice Scratcher – Won’t go??

  • abe
    La Crosse
    Posts: 155
    #1270513

    Hey Guys,
    Hoping someone out there knows something about torque converters. I installed one on my Scratcher this winter in hopes of getting better low end torque at the start and more high end speed once I got going. Everything works great in the garage, but once I get it on the ice it won’t go into “higher” gear. I am running a 6.5 hp engine. Any thoughts? I am also getting belt wear after 1 hour of use

    Any suggestions are appreciated, not many of these around so finding help is hard to come by.




    thegun
    mn
    Posts: 1009
    #931175

    a smaller sprocket on the converter shaft or a larger one on the chipper will make a huge difference!

    either way you will lose speed but gain power therefore generate higher RPM’s thus getting converter to open as you go!

    Or I could be completely wrong who knows

    whiskeysour
    4 miles from Pool 9
    Posts: 693
    #931193

    My guess is belt wear due to misalinged belt. Or else slipping of the converter.

    deerdragger
    Posts: 346
    #931195

    So – just to clarify – it trolls down nice, but you aren’t able to get it on plane?

    I’d make sure you don’t have the trolling motor deployed and the drift sock is in…you know, cover the basics first.

    Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

    85lund
    Menomonie, WI
    Posts: 2317
    #931253

    I have no clue how to fix it but that thing looks wicked. Have fun when you do get er goin

    Tom P.
    Whitehall Wi.
    Posts: 3532
    #931340

    What kinda of RPM is the clutch set up for? Are they matched to open and close at the same RPM? There are springs and weights that may need to be tuned for your application. How tight is the belt when not running, There should be tension on the belt with the center bearing on the drive clutch.

    abe
    La Crosse
    Posts: 155
    #931461

    Quote:


    What kinda of RPM is the clutch set up for? Are they matched to open and close at the same RPM? There are springs and weights that may need to be tuned for your application. How tight is the belt when not running, There should be tension on the belt with the center bearing on the drive clutch.


    The clutch is a Comet 30 Series and said it is for a 3hp-8hp, it doesn’t really say anywhere about settings for RPM’s. I do have the spring set in the “1” hole which means it is supposed to go into higher gear at lower RPM’s I have about 1/8″ play on the belt as stated in the instructions.

    RE “TheGun” suggestion… I never thought about changing the sprocket size on the jackshaft, thank you! I don’t have a clue where I would get a sprocket for the Chipper wheel???

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #931471

    Ace, are you gonna be at the Swap Meet tomorrow?
    If so, come see me. Hard to miss, I look like Santa and my screen name is embroidered on my shirt.

    I have quite a bit of experience with a comet 30 series on a 8HP motor. My best friend (our shop foreman) has lots of knowledge on it and I could get him in touch with you if it comes to that.
    We’ve switched to a comet 40 series with a 10HP or 12HP motor because we found the 30 series just doesn’t grab the belt tight enough when the going get a little tough.
    On an 8HP, the 40 series will grab a little better than the 30 series; but the 8horse just doesn’t have quite enough torque to get max performance out of a 40 series.
    The forty series with the 10 horse is good.
    The 40 series with the 12 horse is great.

    abe
    La Crosse
    Posts: 155
    #931502

    Desperado, Where is the swap meet at??

    thegun
    mn
    Posts: 1009
    #931522

    you get that thing over to my garage and we will have it going in an afternoon! My friends dont call me mac gyver for nothing!!!!!

    you would be obligated to take me out though!

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #931526

    Swap meet is tomorrow (Sat Jan 29) at Bluffs Bar and Grill in Hagar City WI.
    I will be there, but our shop foreman won’t.
    If you come by, I’ll gladly chat with you regarding my experience with comet clutches. And can get you the contact info for our shop guy.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59996
    #931532

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    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #931574

    Right off, unless my eyes are tricking me, in every picture, it looks as if the driven clutch is out too far…??? Alignment off, that would be the burning belt issue. Also, I do believe the issue has got to be RPM related and clutch springs and weight. X amount of RPM = Y amount of weight and type Z spring… and so on…. I used to mess around with my snowmobile clutching quite a bit, but thats ALOT more R’s….

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