future of catch and release??

  • icepromk
    sw wi
    Posts: 108
    #1270190

    when gas is 5 bucks a gallon no one will practice catch and release because if they drive a 4×4 pickup and haul a boat they wont have enough money left over for dinner!

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #923158

    I cringe at the thought of what diesel is going to cost when I get to Canada friday night.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #923159

    Is that why you said you might not be coming back?

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #923161

    Quote:


    Is that why you said you might not be coming back?


    You know how long it will take me to earn gas money in Canada with this mug?

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #923168

    Everthing comes full circle..late 70,s… remember carpooling?

    Except theese days everyone has so much equipment to haul it will have to be Buspooling

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #923181

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Is that why you said you might not be coming back?


    You know how long it will take me to earn gas money in Canada with this mug?


    Unless I’m reading it wrong, you are looking at 4.18/gallon of diesel in Thunder Bay right now. Not the end of the world, but not great.

    Better sharpen that pencil. Hello expense account.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #923182

    Quote:


    when gas is 5 bucks a gallon no one will practice catch and release because if they drive a 4×4 pickup and haul a boat they wont have enough money left over for dinner!


    I don’t think most of us worry to much about gas prices. They are what they are. We play outdoors cause we love it. Not just cause we can afford it.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #923191

    Quote:


    Quote:


    when gas is 5 bucks a gallon no one will practice catch and release because if they drive a 4×4 pickup and haul a boat they wont have enough money left over for dinner!


    I don’t think most of us worry to much about gas prices. They are what they are. We play outdoors cause we love it. Not just cause we can afford it.


    I agree. I know it crunches the pocket book harder on some than others but I believe those of us that play a lot of catch and release while keeping a few for a fry will not be changing there ways

    A meat hog is a meat hog no matter the price of gas!!!!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #923194

    I’ll be left with bait to eat.

    Dave G
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 631
    #923199

    Considering all the expenses of fishing and time involved, when gas goes to $5/gal the price of fresh caught walleye for many will go from $200/lb to $210/lb.

    Chris
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 1396
    #923204

    Quote:


    I agree. I know it crunches the pocket book harder on some than others but I believe those of us that play a lot of catch and release while keeping a few for a fry will not be changing there ways


    I agree 100%. People will need to change their ways and if nothing else fish populations may be helped due to less pressure because people can’t afford to get out as often.

    For me I will buy a cheap car (or minivan ) for second vehicle that I can strap a kayak to and fit my ice gear in/on. I’ll be staying local more often for sure and I’ll be taking fewer trips to pool 4 Once the little one is grown up and out of college – in 20 years – it’s game on

    Chris

    broadwaybob
    Janesville, WI
    Posts: 402
    #923205

    Wade, you must have discretionary funds that I don’t. Because I have to watch every dollar I spend and $5/gallon will mean that going to my local lake will cost me $40 for the truck gas, another $15-20 for the boat gas, $5-10 for bait/tackle and $10 for a launch fee. That’s $80-90 for one local fishing excursion–to a lake 40 miles away. I have college, mortgage, utilities, groceries, extracurricular school fees, GAS, and, well–you get the point. When gas was $4/ gal my biggest expense was, you guessed it, the gas card–and not by a little. At that time the gas guzzler sat in the driveway. There is a point at which consumers change their spending habits and you saw how that affected the world economy. Your tipping point may be higher than mine–but you will hit it sooner than you think. Some average statistics Where do you rank?:

    #

    Profile of the Bassmaster subscriber

    # Median age: 48.6

    # Average age: 51.6

    # Average annual household income: $66,172

    # Median annual household income: $56,566

    # Average annual expenditure on fishing tackle & equipment: $1,928

    # Attended or graduated college: 66.5%

    BASS membership, magazine circulation, TV series, etc.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #923213

    Let’s not forget what the price of fuel does to all the products we buy also. Almost all the goods we get today are shipped via truck to our local stores. If their costs go up, guess who pays for that?

    What is the reason for the current “crisis” causing the fuel costs to skyrocket again?

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #923221

    Quote:


    Wade, you must have discretionary funds that I don’t. Because I have to watch every dollar I spend and $5/gallon will mean that going to my local lake will cost me $40 for the truck gas, another $15-20 for the boat gas, $5-10 for bait/tackle and $10 for a launch fee. That’s $80-90 for one local fishing excursion–to a lake 40 miles away. I have college, mortgage, utilities, groceries, extracurricular school fees, GAS, and, well–you get the point. When gas was $4/ gal my biggest expense was, you guessed it, the gas card–and not by a little. At that time the gas guzzler sat in the driveway. There is a point at which consumers change their spending habits and you saw how that affected the world economy. Your tipping point may be higher than mine–but you will hit it sooner than you think. Some average statistics Where do you rank?:

    #

    Profile of the Bassmaster subscriber

    # Median age: 48.6 34 years old

    # Average age: 51.6 34 years old

    # Average annual household income: $66,172 Salary is higher

    # Median annual household income: $56,566 salary is higher

    # Average annual expenditure on fishing tackle & equipment: $1,928 Scary to think, probably at least that

    # Attended or graduated college: 66.5% Yes, I have 2 degrees

    BASS membership, magazine circulation, TV series, etc.


    I understand where you are coming from Bob.

    #1. I’ve been extremely lucky regarding my career and I currently enjoy a higher than average income.

    #2. I have no kids.

    I would think that those two factors are huge when it comes to budget.

    The key is that I promised myself a long time ago that I wouldn’t let things like gas prices affect my hobbies. I’d find a way to get out there and play regardless of what was happening to the wallet.

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #923266

    Quote:


    A meat hog is a meat hog no matter the price of gas!!!!


    Totally agree!

    FDR

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #923268

    Quote:


    Profile of the Bassmaster subscriber

    # Median age: 48.6
    # Average age: 51.6
    # Average annual household income: $66,172
    # Median annual household income: $56,566
    # Average annual expenditure on fishing tackle & equipment: $1,928
    # Attended or graduated college: 66.5%

    BASS membership, magazine circulation, TV series, etc.


    I wonder how the current, and most recent economy has skewed these income numbers? In general, the Median numbers tend to me more accurate. I can’t imagine being 48 years old with three kids and making around $56,566. When were these statistics published or taken? Just a few thoughts.

    FDR

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #923346

    and a gas hog is a gas hog no matter the price of meat

    docfrigo
    Wisconsin
    Posts: 1564
    #923455

    Only ones free in America these days are those with no debt load–rest are slaves to payments.

    want to keep fishing and not worry about gas—-get out of debt-any boat catches fish.

    icepromk
    sw wi
    Posts: 108
    #923534

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    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #923540

    Lets see…if I’m correct the newly elected have just started taking there seats. You think they really sky rocketed the cost of gas in a week or so?
    To keep from getting political I will leave it at that and trust the public is smarter than to believe that statement

    deertracker
    Posts: 9253
    #923546

    I quess I should be lucky I live where I do. dozens of awesome walleye lakes within 10 miles of my house.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #923553

    Quote:


    I quess I should be lucky I live where I do. dozens of awesome walleye lakes within 10 miles of my house.


    You have a piece of heaven sir

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #902752

    $5/gallon will mean that going to my local lake will cost me $40 for the truck gas, another $15-20 for the boat gas, $5-10 for bait/tackle and $10 for a launch fee. That’s $80-90 for one local fishing excursion–to a lake 40 miles away.

    8 gallons of gas to drive 80 miles, means you get 10 mpg. Gas at $2.50 the trip costs $20… figure $5.00 more for the boat & everything else should be pretty much the same amount ? So the trip costs $25.00 more than before… I would still go, maybe not as often, but I’d go. Dont’ get me wrong, I am not happy about $5.00 gas either… funny how some are blaimng the rep’s that haven’t even sat down yet…and earlier today, I seen another post, that gas was going up because of Obama… and not having deep water drilling…

    big G

    broadwaybob
    Janesville, WI
    Posts: 402
    #902754

    Quote:


    Profile of the Bassmaster subscriber

    # Median age: 48.6
    # Average age: 51.6
    # Average annual household income: $66,172
    # Median annual household income: $56,566
    # Average annual expenditure on fishing tackle & equipment: $1,928
    # Attended or graduated college: 66.5%

    BASS membership, magazine circulation, TV series, etc.


    ESPN published the stats in this article:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/bassmaster/about/news/story?page=bass_about_demos
    Bob

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #923658

    Its a dirty shame that speculators can drive the price of energy
    so high.
    Seems like the whole industry is trying to reclaim BP’s losses.
    $5.00 a gallon will most likely send this country back into a deep recession.
    Anybody remember the oil embargo sham in 70’s

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #923844

    All it means is we’ll adapt, just like we have every time gas goes up, we hear the same story every time gas takes a hike.

    People will find funds to do what they want, they may have to eliminate some of them or spend less on them, but they will get out.

    Catch and release??? considering if your fishing to save money on food your fighting a losing battle already, I doubt the rising cost of gas is going to change much of anybodies mind.

    Not sure what meat hogs has to do with any of this, but if it makes ya feel good…

    Al

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #924201

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    Its a dirty shame that speculators can drive the price of energy so high.


    There are more factors to consider in this equation. But this can certainly push the price up artificially.

    FDR

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