Does anyone do turtling?

  • armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #1267881

    Over the last few years I’ve noticed a huge increase in snapping turtles around here… knowing that they’re doing as well as they are, I’m thinking about trying to take a couple this year to make paella, or even just pan-fried. I had it once when I was little and I remember it being absolutely delicious.

    So I notice in the regs that snappers and spiny softshells are legal takes, but I got no clue what constitues a “keeper” in the turtle world. I’d like to apply the same conservation mindset to taking turtles that I would to taking fish, but I need a bit of input.

    If anyone has suggestions or resources on how to take them I’d appreciate it too. I took 4-5 snappers and a spiny softshell later in the season last year and I’m hoping to be able to take them that way this year, too… but that’s asking Lady Luck for a bit of generosity.

    Just curious what other people think of the idea… nobody ever seems to talk about it.

    Jakob
    Keymaster
    Rogers
    Posts: 1282
    #877401

    I’ve heard some rumors of some bars that are BYOT….

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #877403

    Yo Blue!?

    Time to talk snapper!

    My only experience is of the MN Southern One Eyed.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #877405

    “Does anyone do turtling? “

    Usually every morning around 8:00

    Jon Stevens
    Northfield, Wi
    Posts: 1242
    #877408

    In the state of Wisconsin, you can only keep snappers between 12″ and 16″ all others are off limits. Possession limit is 3 on inland lakes. Hoop nets are cheap and work wonderful.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #877409

    The last few mornings… I have watched about a 20″ or so walking s l o w l y across my yard, on his way to the stream….. he looks tasty enough… but if I remember right, it takes a .357 to the head in the morning, for an afternoon butcher job. I remember it tasting like really good chicken…. I can get chicken alot easier…

    big G

    walleye1274
    Chippewa Falls, WI
    Posts: 515
    #877410

    Quote:


    Yo Blue!?

    Time to talk snapper!

    My only experience is of the MN Southern One Eyed.


    If BK is talking about the old “one eye” I am going to stay away from this topic. I do not want someone posting a pic that could make me go blind for life.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #877412

    Quote:


    Yo Blue!?

    Time to talk snapper!

    My only experience is of the MN Southern One Eyed.


    *sigh* Everyone’s a comedian… sadly, not everyone is funny.

    Dragnslayer
    Posts: 27
    #877415

    I Saw some up near shore mating this morning… Besides netting a friend of mine swears by chicken gizzards/Liver. He uses several big hooks and heavy line that sit on the bottom.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #877422

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Yo Blue!?

    Time to talk snapper!

    My only experience is of the MN Southern One Eyed.


    *sigh* Everyone’s a comedian… sadly, not everyone is funny.


    And sadly enough, to many people have no since of humor anymore

    I like to keep a couple soft shells or snappers each year. I don’t care for cleaning them but the time it takes is worth the reward.

    Whenever we want turtle I just use hook and line with some cut bait. Nothing fancy or hard to do and it puts stew on the stove, we also like it fried at times.

    When planning on taking a few turtles I load my large cooler with ice, nothing zaps a nasty attitude out of a turtle faster than to be locked up on ice.

    rsballar6941
    Minnesota
    Posts: 11
    #877425

    Yep turtle hunting, 4ft hooks walking up stream in creeks hooking prehistoric animals…its a blast. Also small sloughs with stagnant water + large catfish hooks and liver = LARGE turtles.

    PM me if you want more information

    Mudshark
    LaCrosse WI
    Posts: 2973
    #877437

    Just remember the season (in WI) doesn’t start until July 15th…

    blue-fleck
    Dresbach, MN
    Posts: 7872
    #877441

    I think the regs say they’re off limits right now due to it’s their spawning time. Before you harvest one, it’s always good to know if you can actually have it.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #877443

    Quote:


    Quote:


    *sigh* Everyone’s a comedian… sadly, not everyone is funny.



    And sadly enough, to many people have no since of humor anymore


    Careful, that coin’s got two sides! I was picking back at my friend BK. Nyeh.

    Than you, though, for sharing that info, Bret… that’s exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to pick up. Excellent advice on the ice, I never even thought of that. The cutbait and heavy line is good to know (that this is how others do it) and I guess since it worked last year there’s no reason to think it won’t work this year, right?

    Is there much difference between softshell and snapper when it comes to eating? I’ve only had snapper…

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #877445

    BK has a friend

    This is striaght from the Wisconsin Regulations –
    Frogs and Turtles
    A fishing or small game license is required to take turtles. Some species are protected
    and may not be harvested.
    These regulations apply to native Wisconsin frog and turtle species, regardless of their
    origin.
    No non-resident harvest or possession of frogs is allowed, except frogs taken and possessed
    for use as fishing bait.
    License Requirements
    All residents and non-residents who collect, attempt to collect, or possess native Wisconsin
    aquatic turtles must possess one of the following resident or non-resident licenses:
    Fishing, Small Game, Sports, Conservation Patron, Setline*, or Set or Bank Pole*. (*
    These licenses are available only to residents). Existing Senior Citizen Recreational
    Cards also qualify. In addition to the licenses listed above, residents holding a Commercial
    Fishing License may harvest turtles on Mississippi River Boundary Waters.
    Note: Residents under the age of 16 do not need a license to take frogs or turtles but
    must comply with all other regulations.
    Seasons
    Frogs. The open frog season runs from the Saturday nearest May 1 through
    December 31.
    Turtles. The open turtle season runs from July 15 through November 30. Turtles or turtle
    eggs may not be taken during the closed season.
    Possession Limits
    • The possession limit for snapping turtles and softshell turtles is 3 statewide, except
    on the Mississippi River, where the possession limit is 10 for snapping turtles and 5
    for softshell turtles.
    • Licensed bait dealers and registered fish farmers may possess more than 5 specimens
    of any unprotected amphibian species which are collected or possessed as part of a
    bait collection or shipment.
    • More than 5 frogs may be collected for use as fishing bait, but no more than 5 of any
    species may be possessed for more than 24 hours.
    It is illegal to sell native amphibians and reptiles, except persons with a Class A Captive
    Wildlife license may sell:
    1) Eastern tiger salamanders, mudpuppies, and northern leopard frogs.
    2) Native amphibians and reptiles not considered endangered and threatened, and
    collected outside the state, to out of state sources or to education or research in
    stitutions in-state.
    3) Legally harvested dead turtles and their parts during the open season
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    Licensed bait dealers may sell frogs for use as fishing bait.
    Size Limits
    • Snapping turtle size limits are a 12-inch minimum and a 16-inch maximum carapace
    (top shell) length.
    • There are no size limits for other turtles.
    Harvesting Methods
    • It is unlawful to take frogs by firearms or airguns.
    • Turtles may be taken by hand, dip net, hook
    and line, set line, set or bank poles, hooking, or
    hoop net trap (see allowed design below). No
    other trap types are allowed.
    • Turtles may not be taken by hook and line from trout streams during the closed trout
    season.
    • Parts of fish, fish by-products including fish meal or prepared parts of such fish may
    not be used for bait unless: the fish were caught from the water being trapped, were
    obtained from a bait dealer, or were used with written authorization from the WDNR.
    Other meats (e.g., chicken and beef livers) may be used for bait for turtles.
    • The number of hoop traps that can be operated are 10 in Iowa-Wisconsin or Minnesota-
    Wisconsin boundary waters and 3 in all other waters of the state.
    Hoop Net Trap Specifications
    Traps must be made of stretchable fabric (e.g., nylon) and must have a minimum mesh
    stretch of 6 inches.
    No wire mesh is allowed. Each trap must have a metal tag stamped or engraved with
    the name and address of the operator attached, and must be visible above the water’s
    surface. The operator identified on the trap tag is the only person authorized to tend
    these traps. Traps must be set with the hoops exposed a minimum of 2 inches above
    the water’s surface. Turtle traps must be checked and the entrapped contents removed
    at least once each day after the day they are set in all waters.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #877454

    Cool… this is the MN version of the regs (p. 71 in the online version):

    Quote:


    Turtles: Resident licensed anglers and children under 16 may take, pos- sess, and transport turtles for personal use. Western painted, snapping, and spiny softshell turtles are the only harvestable species and may be taken by angling or by hand. Harvest by explosives, drugs, poisons, spears, bows, lime, and other harmful substances is prohibited. Harvest by traps, nets, or other equipment requires an additional turtle license. A separate DNR permit is required to collect turtle eggs from natural nests. A license is required to purchase or sell turtles, except that retail customers do not need a license and residents under age 18 may take, possess, rent, or sell up to 25 turtles for use in a nonprofit turtle race.
    • The snapping turtle possession limit is 3. Minimum size limit is 12″ in shell length. Snapping turtles may not be taken during May and June.
    • Spiny softshell minimum size limit is 12″ in shell length. Spiny softshells may not be taken June 1-July 15.
    • Western painted turtle maximum size limit is 5.5″ in shell length, except that those used in turtle races may be of any length greater than 4″.


    mccrty_ryn
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 173
    #877490

    So where exactly are you finding cheap hoop nets? Thats right up my alley.

    Gary Sanders
    Lake Wisconsin
    Posts: 434
    #877498

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    In the state of Wisconsin, you can only keep snappers between 12″ and 16″ all others are off limits. Possession limit is 3 on inland lakes. Hoop nets are cheap and work wonderful.


    YUP and by the way, the neck is the best part! Absolutley delicious.

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