The End of the World as we know it…

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1267652

    I hope this isn’t too political….

    http://www.rivertowns.net/event/article/id/233092/

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    MADISON — Wisconsin’s immigration reform advocates want Dane County’s sheriff to stop contacting federal immigration agents when officers arrest non U.S. citizens. They say local immigrants have become more fearful of law enforcement since Arizona passed a new immigration law.

    At a recent immigration task force meeting in Madison, advocates said that Sheriff David Mahoney’s collaboration with the Immigration Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) has had an unintended effect – tearing families apart and undermining trust in local law enforcement. They said tensions in Wisconsin’s immigrant communities have reached an all-time high since the passage of Arizona’s new immigration law.

    Salvadore Carranza of Madison says for the past month, he’s been outraged at what’s been happening in Arizona, namely the policies on immigration. Carranza chairs the advocacy group Latinos United for Change and Advancement.

    Carranza is accusing Sheriff Mahoney of referring immigrant offenders to ICE even for minor infractions, which he says instead of keeping the community safer, “is actually victimizing the victim and on the other hand protecting the criminal.”

    But after sitting through nearly four hours of what he called “heart-felt testimony”, Mahoney characterized the recommendation as unfeasible.

    “The request to totally do away with contacting ICE when somebody is brought to jail is not workable,” says Mahoney. “Because I have a responsibility to use every method I can to identify people in my jail.”

    Mahoney says people are not booked into the Dane County jail on minor offenses, such as driving without a license. The immigration task force is expected to give him a formal recommendation later this month.

    — Kirk Carapezza, WPR

    barebackjack
    New Prague, MN.
    Posts: 1023
    #872743

    Yeah, what the hell was that sheriff thinking, who is he to not turn his head on the immigration issues?!?!? What a bad American! Don’t like it get out!

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #872744

    Yep, heaven forbid people be held accountable for their crimes…

    mnicholson
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 76
    #872751

    This guy should be running for office in WI!!!
    He’s got my vote

    John Schultz
    Inactive
    Portage, WI
    Posts: 3309
    #872758

    To repeat my favorite line I’ve heard on this one, “Illegal immigrants have rights too!”

    Yes. They have the right to get legal or get out.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #872760

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    This guy should be running for office in WI!!!
    He’s got my vote


    MADISON, WI……….

    I am so glad my daughter turned down the opportunity to go to school in Madison that I thank the good Lord every day.

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #872764

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    Enforce laws, all of them. I can understand how illegal immigrants will not call the police, the samw way a person with a warrent for their arrest will not call. Because they are illegal.

    I hold nothing against a person for trying to better their lives by coming to America, all of our ancestors did it at one point in time, but do it legally.

    Paulski
    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
    Posts: 1196
    #872778

    I am so confused. Is there some special website I can go to that tells me which laws I am suppose to follow ?

    Is the website the same one our president used to determine if the Heath Care bill was constitutional……

    mikkar
    South Saint Paul, MN
    Posts: 223
    #872783

    Once a gain Bk is stirrin the pot … I am all for immigration but do it legally if your here illegally then you gotta go and try agian the right way. Yes this country was founded upon immigration but it was done the right,legal and moral way. not sneakin through under the cover of darkness… This guy was doing the right thing and he is getting grilled for doing his job well WTH!!!! those who are against these immigration laws must love paying for everyone else

    gordonk
    mpls
    Posts: 145
    #872788

    How about this for a novel idea. Why don’t we start putting executives of major corporations in jail and fining the daylights out of corporations that seek out and employ illegals. Smith Frozen foods is one of the biggest offender and they even have “scouts” down in Central America telling prospective employees how to get here. The big hotel chains are particularly prone to hiring cheap labor. They’ll keep on coming as long as we keep hiring them. Stop the jobs and the incentive goes away. I just don’t see putting rich white guys in jail, however, no matter how much they deserve it.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #872795

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    At a recent immigration task force meeting in Madison, advocates said that Sheriff David Mahoney’s collaboration with the Immigration Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) has had an unintended effect – tearing families apart and undermining trust in local law enforcement.



    Um no, that would be the illegal immigrant who is responsible for that. Nice try in shifting the blame.

    And I do agree that we also need to come down on corporations and people who hire illegals.

    I have nothing against immigrants from the south, in fact, I have defended them as some of the hardest workers around. And I don’t buy into the idea of things like stealing jobs, because they increase consumer spending here.

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #872801

    [quote And I don’t buy into the idea of things like stealing jobs, because they increase consumer spending here.


    Just curious…when its well known that most of our “southern” immigrants ship their money down south, how can that possibly increase consumer spending here?

    docfrigo
    Wisconsin
    Posts: 1564
    #872809

    Only in Madison–heck, when we were down there Saturday my wife saw some dude (guy) down on State Street wearing a skirt…………so this junk does not surprise me.

    If you are here with a visa to work–welcome!!!
    If you don’t have a visa—get out.

    It’s bad enough that our own citizens are living off the system–now even illegals want it. Why is it so hard for people (our government) to see the common sense in matters such as this?
    The plain sense is, we can not afford it.

    jerrj01
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1547
    #872815

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    To repeat my favorite line I’ve heard on this one, “Illegal immigrants have rights too!”

    Yes. They have the right to get legal or get out.


    Amen!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #872846

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    Just curious…when its well known that most of our “southern” immigrants ship their money down south, how can that possibly increase consumer spending here?



    Well the ones that ship all their money end up dying of starvation then I guess and it works itself out.

    Do you really think that it is a significant amount of money?

    To me the greater problem is the income is not taxed. Then again, the way the system works, they are probably losing money not filing because they normally don’t make that much.

    jak
    Posts: 76
    #872870

    He’ll never be reelected in the socialist state of madison

    Richard V.
    Somewhere over the rainbow
    Posts: 2596
    #872889

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    MADISON — Wisconsin’s immigration reform advocates want Dane County’s sheriff to stop contacting federal immigration agents when officers arrest non U.S. citizens. They say local immigrants have become more fearful of law enforcement since Arizona passed a new immigration law.


    This subject is not at all too political. If said people are legal they have nothing to fear, but on the other hand if they are illegal I hope they are deported.

    chomps
    Sioux City IA
    Posts: 3974
    #872891

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    Do you really think that it is a significant amount of money?


    Maybe not significant to you, but how about half if not more of each check? Is that significant? How much does it cost our schools to hire extra teachers who speak Spanish? How much do we spend because all copies need to be made in three or more languages? I’m not saying all of this is bad, but is it being paid for by those workers shipping half of their money back home? Oh yeah, how do these people eat if they are sending so much money south? Ummmm…hello, foodstamps, just look around in the grocery store line, you will be surprised, who do you suppose get a good portion of free and reduced lunches at school?

    Doug Bonwell
    Cedar Falls IA
    Posts: 887
    #872908

    This photo was sent to me by a friend. This is at a High school in California. (Done by the students)

    I think there is a problem with allegiance to this great country. If you don’t like it GET THE HE(( OUT!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #872911

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    How much does it cost our schools to hire extra teachers who speak Spanish? How much do we spend because all copies need to be made in three or more languages? I’m not saying all of this is bad, but is it being paid for by those workers shipping half of their money back home?



    Those things would all exist even if all Mexicans were here legally.

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    Oh yeah, how do these people eat if they are sending so much money south? Ummmm…hello, foodstamps, just look around in the grocery store line, you will be surprised, who do you suppose get a good portion of free and reduced lunches at school?



    Those are all issues we should have with our government. Unfortunately many of them think the constitution and inherent rights belong to anyone here, legal or not. It doesn’t matter if they pay federal taxes to support federal programs or not, they get the benefit. Yet once you try and do anything that targets illegals apparently it is veiled racism.

    whiskeysour
    4 miles from Pool 9
    Posts: 693
    #872921

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    I am so glad my daughter turned down the opportunity to go to school in Madison that I thank the good Lord every day.


    Geez Brett, that’s pretty harsh. UW-Madison is one of the finest schools in the country. My daufghter is going there now, just completed 3rd year in dairy science. She has had the opportunity to travel to Costa Rica for class over Christmas and is leaving for a summer internship in Austrailia next week. I doubt if she would have had these opportunities at other schools. If you have done a good job of parenting what goes on around them should not matter.

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