Here is your chance to get your voice heard on the changes being proposed, fill out the online survey and attend one of the public meetings and let the DNR know how you feel.
February 22, 2010 at 11:56 pm
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Public Hearings for zone 3 deer hunters
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February 23, 2010 at 1:37 am #845053
ZONE 3 GUN HUNTERS be sure to attend these meetings if at all possible! Because the Blufflands whitetail BOW HUNTERS [censored]. are trying to change everyones world to fit there OWN world!!!
February 23, 2010 at 2:18 am #845067Hi Randy how did your 2009 deer season go? I was lucky enough to take two does during the gun season. Just an FYI allot of people think that Blufflands is made up of all Bow hunters, this is simply not true, out of the ten BWA Board Members only two of them are hard core bow hunters the rest of them are gun hunter like yourself. Also some of the changes that are proposed by the DNR are supported by Blufflands.
Hope to see you on the water soon this winter has been way too long.
February 23, 2010 at 3:55 am #845109Antler point restriction!
This is the biggest mistake you could ever make!
other states have done this and yes over time you will shoot more mature bucks! but you are basically managing for smaller deer!
most deer with good genetics will meet the Antler point restriction and therefore be taken out of the herd the first year of there life ! your lesser deer will grow and breed!
I raise deer and I know what it takes to grow big deer! your best yearlings are not the ones to get rid of
February 23, 2010 at 4:58 am #845122Quote:
Hi Randy how did your 2009 deer season go? I was lucky enough to take two does during the gun season. Just an FYI allot of people think that Blufflands is made up of all Bow hunters, this is simply not true, out of the ten BWA Board Members only two of them are hard core bow hunters the rest of them are gun hunter like yourself. Also some of the changes that are proposed by the DNR are supported by Blufflands.
Hope to see you on the water soon this winter has been way too long.
2009 was OK. Account being in school for my coast guard Capt. Lic. i could only hunt one day of the zone 3A season
Shot a 3 1/2 yr. Ten Point. Wis. was ok to with a 3 1/2 yr. 8 point.—BOW hunters or not? They are still the MINORITY tring to run the MAJORITY for there OWN AGENDA 
February 23, 2010 at 7:19 am #845133Deer BOW season is 3 and 1/2 months long, over a 100 days to hunt! They can hunt the RUT the PRE RUT the POST RUT! Yet they are still not happy
They want to kick all the gun hunters out of the woods,during the RUT That way they can hunt the RUT all by themselfs 
Oh ya, then they want to tell you what you can and can not shoot!February 23, 2010 at 4:49 pm #845231It is true that there are bow hunters and gun hunters in MN that would like to see the seasons set up the same way Iowa has there’s but IMO I do not think you will ever see that happen. Number one is that we are in the minority and number two is that the DNR has no interest in changing the seasons that drastically other than Making 3A & 3B both nine day seasons, most of you probably know that up until last year that a few years ago 3A was cut back from a nine day season to a seven day season.
February 23, 2010 at 4:57 pm #845236how do the Iowa seasons run?
DTFebruary 23, 2010 at 5:14 pm #845241so is anybody going to these meetings? I will be in frontenac tonight.
February 23, 2010 at 9:15 pm #845327I am all for QDM during the gun season. there are way too many little bucks getting shot every year.
all you have to ask yourself is, are you a meat hunter, or antler hunter?
if you are a meat hunter, then why do you care? shoot a doe.
February 23, 2010 at 11:09 pm #845380Gave up hunting deer in MN. I hunt in WI now where my sons and I have land access.
Never could figure out the byzantine rules MN DNR have in place for deer management…Easier to just plunk down $200, be able to understand the rules and actually get onto decent hunting land.
February 24, 2010 at 1:22 am #845425Quote:
how do the Iowa seasons run?
DT
The main differance is that Iowa does not open there Gun Season until Dec after the peak rut is over.
February 24, 2010 at 1:52 am #845437Quote:
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how do the Iowa seasons run?
DT
The main differance is that Iowa does not open there Gun Season until Dec after the peak rut is over.
DEC.!!
Way to COLD then for KIDS and OLD MEN 
That’s just what i want to do, sit up in a tree when it’s below ZERO with a NORTHWEST wind blowing up my A$$ —BOW hunters have over a 100 days a year to hunt,they can choose what weather they want to hunt in. 
February 24, 2010 at 1:59 am #845440Quote:
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how do the Iowa seasons run?
DT
The main differance is that Iowa does not open there Gun Season until Dec after the peak rut is over.
DEC.!!
Way to COLD then for KIDS and OLD MEN That’s just what i want to do, sit up in a tree when it’s below ZERO with a NORTHWEST wind blowing up my A$$ —BOW hunters have over a 100 days a year to hunt,they can choose what weather they want to hunt in.
PS what do you think the BOW BOYS would hunt DEC. or the PEAK of the RUT?!?!
February 24, 2010 at 2:30 am #845471Like I said Randy I do not think you have anything to worry about, IMO I do not belive that MN will ever move the season to Dec.
February 24, 2010 at 3:29 am #845498Quote:
Like I said Randy I do not think you have anything to worry about, IMO I do not belive that MN will ever move the season to Dec.
Steve i know that just making my point
February 24, 2010 at 3:34 am #845500Randy are you going to the March 9th meeting in Rochester?
February 24, 2010 at 4:13 am #845510Quote:
Randy are you going to the March 9th meeting in Rochester?
4 sure! See ya there?
February 24, 2010 at 4:30 am #845516Yup see ya there
February 24, 2010 at 7:19 am #845543Why have’nt we heard anything from the hardcore BOW hunters here?
That have been reading this forum You know the one’s that have over a 100 days to hunt —HUNT THE PRE RUT-THE RUT RUT-THE PEAK OF THE RUT-THE POST RUT AND THE DAYS THE WEATHER IS OK TO HUNT IN DEC. February 24, 2010 at 10:25 am #845556Quote:
Why have’nt we heard anything from the hardcore BOW hunters here?
That have been reading this forum You know the one’s that have over a 100 days to hunt —HUNT THE PRE RUT-THE RUT RUT-THE PEAK OF THE RUT-THE POST RUT AND THE DAYS THE WEATHER IS OK TO HUNT IN DEC.
Randy, Easy my man, you’re going to blow a cork !! Sit back and take a deep breath…
February 24, 2010 at 2:54 pm #845626I hope to bow hunt the carp rut this year. Nice and warm!
February 24, 2010 at 3:18 pm #845642Quote:
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Why have’nt we heard anything from the hardcore BOW hunters here?
That have been reading this forum You know the one’s that have over a 100 days to hunt —HUNT THE PRE RUT-THE RUT RUT-THE PEAK OF THE RUT-THE POST RUT AND THE DAYS THE WEATHER IS OK TO HUNT IN DEC.
Randy, Easy my man, you’re going to blow a cork !! Sit back and take a deep breath…
THANKS HAIRJIG, I needed that. You are right i have too COOL it. I have hunted 3A for more years than i can remember. I have watched these guys for years try get me,my family and my hunting budies out of the woods durning the RUT! I finaly had my FILL of it
This is my last post on this subject.—IN THE SPRING WE STRUT IN THE FALL WE RUT February 24, 2010 at 8:02 pm #845783Quote:
Antler point restriction!
This is the biggest mistake you could ever make!
other states have done this and yes over time you will shoot more mature bucks! but you are basically managing for smaller deer!
most deer with good genetics will meet the Antler point restriction and therefore be taken out of the herd the first year of there life ! your lesser deer will grow and breed!
I raise deer and I know what it takes to grow big deer! your best yearlings are not the ones to get rid of
GREAT POINT!!!
Simply letting some bucks go will not, in itself, create this magical herd full of nothing but Booners as too many TV-hunting-show-educated hunters believe.
These TV programs always show the guys passing on the bucks that aren’t “shooters”, then later taking a magnificent trophy animal. The bottom line is that the bucks that grow to 150″, 160″, or bigger are trophies because they’re the exception, not the rule.
NOT ALL MALE WHITETAIL FAWNS WILL GROW TO BE BOONE/CROCKETT OR POPE/YOUNG CALIBER, PERIOD!
The last thing we need is MORE government, and politicians making laws concerning wildlife management. When getting involved in wildlife issues, politicians seem to accomplish only one thing…convoluting and confusing the real, biological issue at hand(see Gray Wolves).
Deer hunting is something that hundreds of thousands of Minnesotans hold near and dear. The harvest-worthiness of a deer is something that each individual should be the judge of on his own. I would think bow-hunters and gun-hunters alike would share this perspective. As one of the best things, in my humble opinion, about hunting whitetails is the solitary nature of the sport. It shouldn’t matter whether a guy wants to wait for a Pope/Young caliber deer or drop the first spiker that walks under his stand. It is HIS OWN CHOICE. If a guy wants to take his kid out and help him harvest a forkhorn or spike as the kid’s first deer, SO BE IT.
After all, this is still America…I think.
People would be a helluva a lot better off if they stopped worrying so damn much about “what the other guy is doing”.
Just my $.02 fishbucks.
February 24, 2010 at 8:40 pm #845789i went to the public hearing last night in frontenac and asked some tough questions (as did others) and was not impressed with some of the answers i got. theres some good points made here that i had not thought about, i may have to take some notes, re-load and attend another hearing. i got the impresion the DNR knows they are skating on thin ice with this and the squeaky wheel will get the oil.
P.S. if some of you can not make one of the hearings there is a place on the DNR’s web sight were you can voice your thoughts.
February 25, 2010 at 12:40 am #845893Just an FYI for everyone I did not post these topics to start a big debate here, I am trying as much as possible to keep my personal views to myself here, most of you already know where I stand anyway. I posted the info on the meetings so both sides can show up and have there opinions heard. Here is the link to the on line survey.
February 25, 2010 at 1:04 pm #846051Killing animals is wrong…
February 25, 2010 at 3:17 pm #846068In regards to the antler point restriction for Zone 3.
There is a private organization with a personal vendetta for this rule, that are located in a very small section of zone 3, that’s lobbying for all of zone 3 to change. The members of this private organization doing this lobby for their opininated voice have no scientific or biological background to change the method of which nature should survive.
Antler point restriction is fine, for private game preserves, who make “trophies”. however, what about inferior, weak-genitic bucks? In the past 4 years, I have shot 3 “inferior” bucks.
Now, what about areas that have doe-lottery permits…….so, you might not get a doe tag, and now you can’t shoot “any” buck……..therefore you are “forced” into “trophy hunting” on your own private land, that has been in the family since the 1850s, where deer hunting has been a family tradition for 7 generations……Trophy hunting and deer hunting are 2 different programs.Fine, do what you want on state-owned land. Let the “wealthy” hunters “buy” their trophies on game farms.
But don’t ever loose site of the reason Minnesota is “wealthy” in the outdoors. it is because of family tradition of hunting, fishing, camping, trapping, hiking, canoeing, boating, etc. Don’t ever loose site of family tradition!!!!
Don’t let a small, minority group, that has no biological or scientific data, education, knowledge try and scoop shovel their personal vendetta for “trophy hunting” onto the majority.
February 26, 2010 at 5:17 am #846525ttt
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