Toyota And The Latest News Regarding The Gas Pedal

I imagine everyone has heard about the gas pedal recall. I imagine everyone has heard the Toyota slogan, “Toyota, a great way to keep moving foward.” Toyota is now going to change their company logo to a gas pedal.

It was only a matter of time before they started to fall and now its finally happening.

For all of those who read Consumer Reports and believe half of the b.s. and still live in the 1980’s thinking the Japaneese vehicles are better finally got a taste.

For those who traded in their American vehicle on “Cash For Clunkers” and purchased a Japaneese vehicle maybe should have thought twice.

GM, Ford, and Mopar are producing vehicles more superior to their Japaneese counterparts.

Toyota, a great way to keep moving foward

“GM, Ford, and Mopar are producing vehicles more superior to their Japaneese counterparts.”

Just curious what the overall reliability is for the Big 3 you mentioned compared to Toyota and Honda? My guess would be Toyota and Honda are on top, where can a guy get un-biased facts on reliability?

If you think this is going to fold Toyota…put down the crack pipe and walk away dude

Recalls

Find a manufacture who hasn’t had one.
And then if you know how to use Google…look who has been bailed out/broke and who hasn’t

Just so you are informed, bail outs cost all of us.

not Ford

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not Ford

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Yepper, one of the very few not bailed out

But still had there share of Recalls.

to Bret! I get mad everytime I hear clunker, real glad I was able to help finance my neighbor’s new car while I roll around in my 97 Pontiac.

Yeah Bret; I remember the Pinto

My prof told me that toyota is actually more american than ford now, so if this is true its funny hearing you guys complain about japanese vehicles when they are actually made in the U.S. He said Most of Ford’s stuff is made in china anyway. Might have to do some research….

Red go see who’s puttin american jobs back to work in AMERICA

Your Prof was right Red, the “Japanese” label is 1980’s talk. The bulk of Toyota’s assembly is done right here in the USA.

who?? I own a ford by the way… its a piece. I dont really care either way. I would take any make of truck for the right price. My F150 is getting 9mpg in town right now…

Ford is building another plant in the Chicago area and hiring 1200 new employees!!! That right there shows progress but then again they were not one of the bankrupt companies(GM Government motors, Dodge which is now Fiat). I will say when the big 3 have recalls they do not shut their plants down and stop work for their employees. That is unamerican!!!

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It was only a matter of time before they started to fall and now its finally happening.

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It started long before this. Personally I wouldn’t even consider buying any Toyota built after 2004..

why pay more when you can get the same averagely built car from GM or Ford for less!

BTW, Toyota DID get bailed out. It was just from the Japanese Government.

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If you think this is going to fold Toyota…put down the crack pipe and walk away dude

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No this won’t fold Toyota, but it will definately put a dent in sales.

It’s funny how so many people take shots at Toyota for this recall. People love to see top dogs falter.

I’ve got a Honda and a Toyota in the garage, and that isn’t going to change anytime soon.

A vehicle can be built in the USA, and designed, engineered, R & D’d ,concepted in Japan. They then can call it made in USA. Everybody has a choice, its just too bad that a few generations later, people forget who or what built this country. The Japanese are smart, can’t fault them for that. They are beating us at our own game, on our home court. Ford did take money in the first go around of bailouts, they called them Department of Energy $25b no- to low-cost “retooling” loans (remember them?) If 1 Ford was sold in the clunker deal, they were right there at the trough too Every manufacturer has recalls, just the severity of the issue is what gets them publicized. A accelerating vehicle will always get the headline over the faulty wiper motor… You can fill your garage with foreign made, but someday, it will affect all of us. The USA will lower itself off the self sufficient model, it has enjoyed for hundreds of years. We will have nobody to thank for that but ourselves

big G

If a product is r & d across the pond, but built here how is it more foreign that if it was r & d here, but built in mexico/canada?? Yes the money goes to the mothership country, but whose workers are building them??? tit for tat

What everyone is forgetting is that this is a GLOBAL economy. If you want to stay in the game, you gotta go play the global game.

Isn’t history just repeating itself? Didn’t we go through this during the late 60’s – 70’s with gas/oil shortages? Gas prices skyrocketed, the muscle car era ended, and the little fuel sipping imports were there?

Fast forward to today, the US automakers were making money had over fist with their trucks/suv’s letting the car market fall off the radar, the dependability/reliability/innovation slid. People wanting good dependable cars found them in Honda/Toyota. Can’t blame a person for wanting the most bang for their buck.

If you build what the customers want, you’ll have customers, if not, you’ll soon meet your demise, simple as that.

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You can fill your garage with foreign made, but someday, it will affect all of us.

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[sarcasm]Yeah, I’ll be the downfall of the US.[/sarcasm]

I don’t get caught up in the “where’s it from” crapola. I set my criteria, check out the options, and make the decision that is best for me. Last time I bought a vehicle, I looked at Tahoe/Yukons, Expeditions, Durangos, and Sequoias. It came down to the fact that I liked the Sequoia best, and it had the track record to back it up.

You want my dollar, make something that I can’t resist.

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I will say when the big 3 have recalls they do not shut their plants down and stop work for their employees. That is unamerican!!!

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Toyota workers are still working, the line might be shut down but they are still staying busy in the factories. Not producing more product when you know the product is bad seems like the right thing to do, but that’s just my opinion.

Jami… you do know they assemble Toyotas/Lexus in Canada and Mexico for sale in the USA right ??? Again, I go back to my original comment, if I had it buried in there…. MORE Americans are employed per vehicle manufactured by Ford, GM & Chrysler. Simple math. Yes, Ralph, you will be part of it… along with alot of us others…. The what can 1 guy do mentality, has been the demise of many manufacturing jobs in the US. Just facts.

big G

Yes I do, but I won’t feel bad getting the best quality for my dollar. Put a product out there that meets or beats it, you will have buyers. Put out sub par, we’ll you have something to worry about.

You want my business, earn it!

No different than any of us working for global companies. Work is being shipped all over the world, you better come in with your game face on if you want to be employed.

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you do know they assemble Toyotas/Lexus in Canada and Mexico for sale in the USA right ??? Just facts.

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Are you sure these are the facts? A quick search from an unbiased source contradicts these statements.

Toyota has a large presence in the United States with five major assembly plants in Huntsville, Alabama; Georgetown, Kentucky; Princeton, Indiana; San Antonio, Texas; Buffalo, West Virginia. A new plant slated to be built in Blue Springs, Mississippi has been put on hold owing to the financial crisis that erupted in late 2008. Toyota had a joint-venture operation with General Motors at New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. (NUMMI), in Fremont, California, which began in 1984 and ended in 2009.[45] It still has a joint-venture with Subaru at Subaru of Indiana Automotive, Inc. (SIA), in Lafayette, Indiana, which started in 2006. Production on a new manufacturing plant in Tupelo, Mississippi was scheduled for completion in 2010 but is currently on indefinite hold. North America is a major automobile market for Toyota. In these assembly plants, the Camry and the Tundra are manufactured, among others.

The only Toyota models from Canada are Tacoma, Corolla, Matrix, Rav4 and one Lexus model the RX 350 is from Mexico.

Looks like Dodge isn’t the only auto made in Canada and Mexico.

Glad you could clear that up for yourself….. Again.. I will type s l o w e r….. I did not say Dodge was made in the USA… I said more Americans are employed, when producing one Dodge… than are employed producing one Camry….. I am done pizzing on this with the kids….. wait til your next boat literally floats over here for you…. It’s coming

big G

I want to start off by saying I drive a GMC pickup. Id be the first to propose that everyone buy American (whatever that is these days)

BUT…

The fact that American car companys have been making oversized, gas guzzling, sub-par vehicles for decades is why they are having problems in this market and why people are often buying “non-American” made vehicles. People are spending big money on their vehicles, and they want the best for their money. Most dont give a crap who made it.

It appears that we (Americans) are finally figuring this out and starting (hopefully) to compete with the Import cars.

My wife has a 97 Honda Accord. Ive known her for 10 years now. In that time, her Accord has needed CV axles, a battery, and front brakes for repairs. THATS IT. Her car before that was a POS American made car that was in the shop constantly. Good luck on convincing her to buy anything but a Honda next round. Good luck on bringing import car buyers back to buying American after this giant hole they dug…

AJ, I do not disagree. For most, who sit and type their thoughts here, do not understand the Big 3 American manufacturers. Those that like to google, google Legacy Costs associated with the Big 3…. they paid Union workers better than “fair” wages, for decades. Still paying employees who haven’t set foot in a factory for 30 years !!! Back when the Yotas and Hondas were coming in here in the 70’s and 80’s, they were being built by labor less than fair, when compared to what the Big 3 had to do. How much more “Quality” do you think they could build into an American car, to compete with the Imports, had they been able to pay little wages, no vacations, no health care, no sick time, no breaks & with no legacy costs ?? Yes, it is a problem, that has come full circle. I remember something a Chrysler rep told me about 5 years ago… when they would design and engineer a vehicle, what actually rolled off the line, was something completely different. Alloys and materials that were spec’d, were skimped and swapped for cheaper components. The amount of $$$ to actually produce the vehicle with american wages, cut right into the cost of materials, and therefore quality. This didn’t happen when gas hit $4 a gallon, all the manufacturers had 30 mpg cars… you just needed to get past all the advertising that others could do, that the Big 3 could not afford. Off my soapbox….. look it up.. Legacy Costs…

BTW Jami, the quality vehicle you talk of, would not include a car that may or may not, send your loved one on a 100 mph joyride would it ??? That is what this thread is about… no matter what anybody says, this is a deserved Black Eye for Toyota. They need to take their lumps too.

big G

How not to return your Toyota?

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/83184417.html?index=1&c=y

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I want to start off by saying I drive a GMC pickup. Id be the first to propose that everyone buy American (whatever that is these days)

BUT…

The fact that American car companys have been making oversized, gas guzzling, sub-par vehicles for decades is why they are having problems in this market and why people are often buying “non-American” made vehicles. People are spending big money on their vehicles, and they want the best for their money. Most dont give a crap who made it.

It appears that we (Americans) are finally figuring this out and starting (hopefully) to compete with the Import cars.

My wife has a 97 Honda Accord. Ive known her for 10 years now. In that time, her Accord has needed CV axles, a battery, and front brakes for repairs. THATS IT. Her car before that was a POS American made car that was in the shop constantly. Good luck on convincing her to buy anything but a Honda next round. Good luck on bringing import car buyers back to buying American after this giant hole they dug…

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Hope that isn’t a half ton GMC because they are made in mexico along with the chevy 1/2 ton. ONly the 2500 and 3500 GM products are made in the US.

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BTW Jami, the quality vehicle you talk of, would not include a car that may or may not, send your loved one on a 100 mph joyride would it ??? That is what this thread is about… no matter what anybody says, this is a deserved Black Eye for Toyota. They need to take their lumps too.

big G

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G you know the 3/4 ton Dodge diesel doesn’t do a 100 mph!! Ok it does, but thats another thread…