MN Carry Renewal Course?

  • AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #837000

    Close enough, thanks much.

    Al

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #837007

    Looks like this may be the anwser.

    Transporting Firearms in Motor Vehicles, Boats, or Aircraft. In general, no one may place, possess, or transport a firearm in a motor vehicle, motorboat, or aircraft unless the firearm
    is unloaded and in a carrying case. Loading or discharging a firearm in or from a vehicle is also prohibited [ss. 167.31 (2) (a) and (b), and (3) (a)].

    Although this doesn’t really explain what to do on the river?
    And explain “carrying case” also.

    Also as far as open carry, maybe not….


    Carrying Firearms in Public. Wisconsin law does not specifically prohibit the open carrying
    of loaded or unloaded firearms in public, but a person doing so may risk being arrested and charged with disorderly conduct, on the grounds that the display threatens the public peace or safety.

    They just don’t want to make it easy do they?
    Al

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #839230

    Took a bit but I have some more answers maybe.

    I contacted the MN BCA and they sent this.
    They also made sure to tell me it was a opinion and not legal.
    I’d suspect a bit of CYA here, but seems to go with other information I’ve picked up..anyway, here’s what they said.

    “””
    We contacted the MN Sheriff’s Association to see how they would interpret this situation.

    As far as the Mississippi or St Croix river, which border MN and Wisconsin, they indicated that the precedent they follow is that if a Minnesota resident has a gun permit they may carry all the way to the other states shore line and would be considered to have a valid permit to carry (by both states). If you would set foot on shore in Wisconsin, then you would not be in compliance if you did not have a Wisconsin permit (unless Wisconsin recognizes the MN permit to carry in their state).

    As far as the boundary waters areas between US and Canada, you could be in violation if you are over the boundary into Canada. Boundary lines change in the river or lakes, so they indicated you should not try to carry in that area, because it is too difficult to tell which country you are fishing in. Canada does not recognize a MN permit to carry and to be fishing in the Canada part of a river or lake, you would have to have a Canadian gun permit.
    “”””

    So, if I had to make a opinion, I’d say as long as your in the water/river, your ok, but don’t go ashore in Wisc unless you feel brave.

    Some asked to post what I found, hope this helps a bit.

    Al

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #839245

    Al, not to make your day a bad one…but do you have the time to contact the WI folks?

    I’ve found that many times that MN thinks and enforces one way while WI has a different though about there laws and enforcement. In some cases the CO’s enforced differently than what Madison says they should.

    Nothing is easy on the border waters.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #839260

    Brian, Pierce county never returned my emails (2), the Wisc state DA said they have open carry, but you can be arrested for disturbing the peace or something like that.
    I also never quite found out how to keep a firearm in a vehicle much less a boat.
    In a vehicle, appears it needs to be in a case (?) unloaded and after that, not sure.

    As far as a boat goes haven’t a clue.

    Wisc hasn’t been much help unfortnately or I’ve been hitting the wrong people.
    Al

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #839269

    There was a notice that went out from the WI State Attorney General a few months back asking police departments not to use the Disorderly Conduct charge be used or otherwise law abiding carrying folks. I’m not sure if it was posted here or the hunting side or I just saw it in an email.

    Ya know, this whole mid river, touching the other states soil is all BS.

    Even our phone company doesn’t charge long distance if I call Hudson WI from Afton.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #839281

    Asking them not to may be nice, but it still leaves it open from them to charge someone.
    Nothing I’d risk my permit to carry over, or a night in jail.

    Ya, BS is a understatement.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #839401

    Good site Brian, explains it well.
    al

    wkw
    Posts: 730
    #839406

    Do what you think is right, but is there a need to carry on the river ? If there is. let me know, so I can bring along
    ‘Ol Sally.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #839460

    Quote:


    Do what you think is right, but is there a need to carry on the river ? If there is. let me know, so I can bring along
    ‘Ol Sally.


    Well, ya never now when Capt’n Morgan may show up and try and take over your ship, you know how them pirates are…:)

    Actually its not ON the river, its getting to and from it.

    Plus leaving a firearm in the truck just doesn’t seem like a good idea.

    Also was trying to figure out how to launch at Everetts and not violate any laws.

    Al

    wkw
    Posts: 730
    #839491

    You must have a pretty nice rig, to worry about being hijacked on the way to Everts. Only way that could happen is if you had cookies on board.
    WKW

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #839497

    Quote:


    Only way that could happen is if you had cookies on board.


    That’s a big enough reason to watch your back right there!

    To answer your question Wayne, if I knew what day an what time I would need my PFD, I certainly wouldn’t be wearing it all the time while on the water.

    redneck
    Rosemount
    Posts: 2627
    #839559

    I hate to agree with you about anything Brian BUT good answer

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #839568

    Just don’t get use to it Redneck….we don’t want the word to get out you know.

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