1977 Lund Rebuild

  • liljac
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 169
    #1264789

    Hey Everyone,

    Thought I would share my progress on my Lund rebuild. It has been quite a project as I am pretty much learning as I go. As someone who loves to fix and build things I though why not make my first boat a fixer-upper.

    It’s a 1977 Deep-V Lund, not in the greatest shape when I bought it. Came with a 25hp Evinrude.

    This first group of images is of the beginning process of cleaning out the entire boat. It was dirty and waterloged, the previous owner that installed the floor obviously didnt think alot of things through. When I removed the old turf carpet from the entire boat I realized that he had used exterior glue on the entire boat in every nook and cranny. This glue was on there and was not comming off without a fight.







    bdlucas
    Posts: 39
    #813596

    That is starting to take shape. I did the same thing three winters ago. I ripped it out to the bare aluminum as well.

    Good luck and keep us updated with the progress

    liljac
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 169
    #813598

    I Slowly scrapped the bulk of the glue off by heating with a heat gun and scrapping off what I could. Once I had removed the bulk of the glue I took a wire brush and got down to the metal. This process took a LONG time, many late nights out in the garage. But once the inside was complete it looked A LOT better.

    Then I moved to the outside, with ended up being much easier because it was just paint that needed to be removed. Once removed, I flipped her over and gave it a good power washing inside and out. I Painted the inside first with herculiner, which sealed everything up and gave it a solid grippy surface. Then I flipped it over and began work on the outside. I used a self-etching primer designed for aluminum as a base for my paint. Then painted over that with a light gray on the bottom and black for the top half.

    Overall I think it has turned out great so far, now that all the painting is done I can turn my focus to the inside. I plan on building in a floor, raised front deck, livewell, rod storage and more.

    Let me know what you think, if you have any questions I would be more than happy to try and answer them.







    walleyeben
    Albertville,MN
    Posts: 963
    #813605

    That is impressive, how many hours do you think you have into that project?

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #813609

    Wow! That is a lot of glue to remove

    It’s looking good. The paint job really makes it look nice!

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #813618

    That Herculiner looks great!

    -J.

    sauger
    Hastings ,MN
    Posts: 2442
    #813619

    Wow did that turn out sharp!!! Nice work

    nic-habeck
    Lake Mills, WI
    Posts: 831
    #813620

    Excellent job. It’s awesome when a project like that comes together and doing thing right pays off.

    dan-larson
    Cedar, Min-E-So-Ta
    Posts: 1482
    #813622

    Wow, and to think I patted myself on the back last night after installing a new shower head. Boat looks great, be interesting to see where a guy with your attention to detail takes it next!

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #813628

    Looks Great. I just put Herculiner in the back of my pickup to help in loading the wheeler. I’ve heard grumblings it doesn’t hold up well. I guess I’ll find out after this winter.

    Looking forward to seeing how the interior turns out.

    Whiskerkev
    Madison
    Posts: 3835
    #813630

    looks brand new. I fished for 4 years out of a rig I paid a hundred bucks for.

    85lund
    Menomonie, WI
    Posts: 2317
    #813633

    Great Job! It’s looking very nice. I have an ’85 Lund Tyee 8.3. I love it and love to see older Lund boats on the water.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #813638

    When I was in my teens I did a project sort of like this with an ancient steel boat my dad got somewhere. Sadly, a few years later I ended up scrapping the boat, never really having used it, but it was a cool old boat. Heavy though.

    I have to say, however, that you did a really REALLY nice job on the paint and were a lot more thorough about stripping it to the bare metal than I was. Hats off, it looks great, and I can’t wait to see what you do with the interior.

    liljac
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 169
    #813639

    Quote:


    Looks Great. I just put Herculiner in the back of my pickup to help in loading the wheeler. I’ve heard grumblings it doesn’t hold up well. I guess I’ll find out after this winter.


    I saw some mixed reviews too, but it went on really well, and once I get the floor and side storage in there shouldnt be much traffic on it all all. I really just wanted something to seal it up good and give that grippy surface.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #813643

    LOL it took me a minute to connect the dots and realize that you were referring to the truck bed liner stuff. Awesome idea, I’m gonna have to keep that in mind for a couple projects I hope to work on in the next 6-12 months.

    Pete Bauer
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2599
    #813649

    Chad, Look’s good buddy!

    After living with you in our old piece of crap college house for 2 years, watching you attempt to fix every minor imperfection, I’ve got a feeling this boat will look like a showroom yacht when you’re finished.

    Now get that sucker ready to hit that water. You owe me 2 years worth of fishing trips!!!

    freedomrock
    Posts: 75
    #813684

    What are you planning to use for floor material?

    steveo
    W Central Sconnie
    Posts: 4102
    #813694

    coming from someone who can’t work a screwdriver and chew gum at the same time: I salute your efforts. Looks great!

    northstar42
    west central Minnesotsa
    Posts: 921
    #813718

    I’m in the midst of my own project and you make me green with envy. What a great job. I have to think about the bed liner idea. Does it come in different colors?

    I can’t get my head around going after the glue. You suppose it would come off easier if it was -20?

    liljac
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 169
    #813720

    Quote:


    What are you planning to use for floor material?


    Im either going to use a plywood and seal it with an epoxy or use exterior plywood. I talked to many different lumber yards and was told that the chemicals they use these days on exterior plywood are much differnt and are pretty much non corrosive to metals. Alot of people before that had told me never to use exterior treated plywood in a boat.

    Plus the hull of the boat is now covered in herculiner so the only place the wood would come in direct contact with metal would be the L-supports

    liljac
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 169
    #813722

    Quote:


    I’m in the midst of my own project and you make me green with envy. What a great job. I have to think about the bed liner idea. Does it come in different colors?

    I can’t get my head around going after the glue. You suppose it would come off easier if it was -20?


    Yeah it does come in different colors but I believe you have order those from herculiner. There was a light gray I was looking at getting but it was more expensive and more of a hassle considering the black was right at menards.

    As far as the glue, good luck… really depends on how thick it is…the glue thickness on my boat could have been measured with a ruler

    mark-bruzek
    Two Harbors, MN
    Posts: 3867
    #813788

    look into Marine Grade Plywood.
    You should have better results with that I belive.-Mark
    BTW-good work

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #813891

    Quote:


    look into Marine Grade Plywood.
    You should have better results with that I belive.


    Yeah, but if you want to talk hard to find and expensive… Marine Grade plywood is what they use to make wooden boat hulls. Last time I looked for it (I was going to build a canoe when I was a kid) it was nearly impossible to find and cost a small fortune.

    Maybe that’s changed in the last 20 years, but I doubt it. Personally I’d use regular plywood, sealed with urethane. It’s gonna be more time-consuming than anything, and that doesn’t seem like something you mind much. Sealed with urethane, though, that stuff will last for decades and, if you like the look of it you woudln’t even have to carpet it.

    liljac
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 169
    #813969

    lol I dont know about a strait wood floor, but I was thinking along the same lines. Marine plywood is $75 a sheet or more right now so that is defiantly out of the question.

    Do you think its worth buying exterior plywood waiting for it to dry and then sealing it. Or buying a decent grade normal plywood and sealing it up well?

    The boat is always going to be stored inside or covered, so really the only time it will get wet is out on the water.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #813976

    If it were me, and I had your level of patience and willingness to invest time, I’d go with normal plywood and a really good, high quality sealant.

    If you seal up normal plywood it’ll work just as well as outdoor plywood that you’re just going to seal up anyway, wouldn’t it?

    liljac
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 169
    #813977

    would exterior plywood be just as effective unsealed as regular plywood sealed? Cause if I didnt have to seal it at all that would be alot easier. Of course most of the time the easy way never works out

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #813991

    Looks like there are actual forums out there for this sort of thing:

    http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003543.html
    http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76606

    The general consensus over there seems to be that the only real differences between exterior plywood and marine are the number of plies and waterproof glue. It also seems that if you don’t seal them up good, the wood will still get wet and swell…

    I’ve googled around looking at plastic plywood, too… it’s well over $100/sheet for 1/2″, so that’s gonna be out of the question even if it’s PERFECT for the application.

    So it’s looking like probably your best bet is to seal up some exterior plywood since marine seems to carry the same general set of issues.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
    Posts: 1620
    #813993

    DUDE, OK here’s one with some promising info:

    http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/12458-marine-plywood-vs-pressure-treated-wolmanized-plywood.html

    The last entry seems to be the most important: when people refer to using marine-grade plywood, they’re referring most likely to direct water contact, i.e. hulls, not decks.

    I guess it’s starting to seem more like exterior plywood without much for sealant is going to be good enough for this, but again it’s up to you. Maybe check with those boat-building forums before you make your final decision?

    One way or t’other, keep us posted!

    joshbjork
    Center of Iowa
    Posts: 727
    #856885

    there are a lot of talks about this on tinboats and at iboats. You’re likely to get confused though if you refer to green treated stuff as just exterior because there are other types of ply that are exterior and they are not green treated.

    Marine ply is not rot resistant. There may be a treated marine ply but I think it is a rare duck.

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