Snap Weights

  • huntfishhastings
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 282
    #1263563

    The bible has a dive conversion 20+ method for diving cranks with 1oz weights, does anyone have a good way to tell how your running with 2 or 3oz weights? Im trying to get cranks down in the 45-50fow range.

    rangerski
    North Metro
    Posts: 539
    #789238

    DOUBLE THE WEIGHT, AND YOU’LL GET DOUBLE THE DEPTH?? JUST A LOGICAL GUESS AND STARTING POINT. IF YOU START DIGGING A TRENCH YOU’LL KNOW YOUR DOWN THERE? AFTER SOME SHORT TRIAL AND ERROR YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT. GOOD LUCK

    perch_44
    One step ahead of the Warden.
    Posts: 1589
    #789240

    Quote:


    DOUBLE THE WEIGHT, AND YOU’LL GET DOUBLE THE DEPTH?? JUST A LOGICAL GUESS AND STARTING POINT. IF YOU START DIGGING A TRENCH YOU’LL KNOW YOUR DOWN THERE? AFTER SOME SHORT TRIAL AND ERROR YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT. GOOD LUCK


    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #789281

    I think you need to approach it a little bit differently. First determine how fast you are going to troll because using snap weights are very speed sensitive. Then figure out how deep your crankbait will run with 50 feet of line out. Take that number and subtract it from your desired depth. For example, if your crankbait runs 15 feet deep at 50 feet of line out and you want to get down to 50 feet, the delta is 35 feet.

    While trolling at your desired speed, let the crankbait out and at 50 feet, put on a snap weight (either 2 or 3 ounces). Let out another 30 feet of line. Now you need to determine the angle of your line as it enters into the water. This is where speed comes in. It most likely will be either 45 degrees or 60 degrees. If it’s 45 degrees multiply the delta depth by the square root of two which is 1.41 (think of it in right triangles 45, 45, 90). This number now indicates the amount of line needed to achieve the delta number (35 feet in our example).

    Back to our example…

    Our crankbait runs 15 feet at 50 feet of line. Our delta number is 35 feet to achieve a total desired depth of 50 feet. Based on our troll speed, we have a 45 degree angle of the line as it enters the water. Take 35 feet, times it by 1.41 and that equals approximately 49 feet. You should have a total of 99 feet out to achieve a desired depth of 50 feet.

    If the angle of your line is 60 degrees (our right angle would be 60,30,90) based on your troll speed, you need to multiply it by 2. That would be the delta number (35) times it by (2) and you would get 70 feet. So you now would have a total of 120 feet of line out to achieve a 50 foot depth.

    Starting to make sense?

    Keep in mind that this is not exact science because the turning of the boat while trolling will affect the angle of the line which counter effects your depth. Hope this helps…

    Pete Bauer
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2597
    #789298

    Ya, what he said!

    Very interesting Brad, Thanks for posting

    wkw
    Posts: 730
    #789306

    What did he say ? I don’t have a slide rule in my boat, and my calculator is dead. But it sounds good.

    Craig Matter
    Hager City,Wi
    Posts: 556
    #789324

    Find 50 FOW and troll 50 FOW I’d run the speed that you want to run let out 50 foot of line attach snap weight 6 or 8 ounce I’d say going down 50 foot. Start letting out line until you tick bottom. Note the distance on the line counter then you’ll know where that lure is running. Now other lures that run that similar depth should get you in the ball park. We start in shallow 20-25 foot run them until the tick bottom. once we know that we’ll move to 30-35 and let out more line until they start ticking now you know 35 ft what you need to run, then move out to 45-50 let out more until the start ticking….and so on until you know the depths that you want to run. It sound time consuming but it really doesn’t take that long. Like mentioned above speed has a lot to do with it.

    We had little ripper getting down 35 feet with 6 and 8 ounce running 2.8 mph and a total of 140 to 160 foot of line out. If you slow it down to 2 mph you can get them down alot deeper….so determining the speed that the fish want in is critical

    Good luck

    Whasta

    perch_44
    One step ahead of the Warden.
    Posts: 1589
    #789341

    Quote:


    I think you need to approach it a little bit differently. First determine how fast you are going to troll because using snap weights are very speed sensitive. Then figure out how deep your crankbait will run with 50 feet of line out. Take that number and subtract it from your desired depth. For example, if your crankbait runs 15 feet deep at 50 feet of line out and you want to get down to 50 feet, the delta is 35 feet.

    While trolling at your desired speed, let the crankbait out and at 50 feet, put on a snap weight (either 2 or 3 ounces). Let out another 30 feet of line. Now you need to determine the angle of your line as it enters into the water. This is where speed comes in. It most likely will be either 45 degrees or 60 degrees. If it’s 45 degrees multiply the delta depth by the square root of two which is 1.41 (think of it in right triangles 45, 45, 90). This number now indicates the amount of line needed to achieve the delta number (35 feet in our example).

    Back to our example…

    Our crankbait runs 15 feet at 50 feet of line. Our delta number is 35 feet to achieve a total desired depth of 50 feet. Based on our troll speed, we have a 45 degree angle of the line as it enters the water. Take 35 feet, times it by 1.41 and that equals approximately 49 feet. You should have a total of 99 feet out to achieve a desired depth of 50 feet.

    If the angle of your line is 60 degrees (our right angle would be 60,30,90) based on your troll speed, you need to multiply it by 2. That would be the delta number (35) times it by (2) and you would get 70 feet. So you now would have a total of 120 feet of line out to achieve a 50 foot depth.

    Starting to make sense?

    Keep in mind that this is not exact science because the turning of the boat while trolling will affect the angle of the line which counter effects your depth. Hope this helps…


    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #789344

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    Quote:


    I think you need to approach it a little bit differently. First determine how fast you are going to troll because using snap weights are very speed sensitive. Then figure out how deep your crankbait will run with 50 feet of line out. Take that number and subtract it from your desired depth. For example, if your crankbait runs 15 feet deep at 50 feet of line out and you want to get down to 50 feet, the delta is 35 feet.

    While trolling at your desired speed, let the crankbait out and at 50 feet, put on a snap weight (either 2 or 3 ounces). Let out another 30 feet of line. Now you need to determine the angle of your line as it enters into the water. This is where speed comes in. It most likely will be either 45 degrees or 60 degrees. If it’s 45 degrees multiply the delta depth by the square root of two which is 1.41 (think of it in right triangles 45, 45, 90). This number now indicates the amount of line needed to achieve the delta number (35 feet in our example).

    Back to our example…

    Our crankbait runs 15 feet at 50 feet of line. Our delta number is 35 feet to achieve a total desired depth of 50 feet. Based on our troll speed, we have a 45 degree angle of the line as it enters the water. Take 35 feet, times it by 1.41 and that equals approximately 49 feet. You should have a total of 99 feet out to achieve a desired depth of 50 feet.

    If the angle of your line is 60 degrees (our right angle would be 60,30,90) based on your troll speed, you need to multiply it by 2. That would be the delta number (35) times it by (2) and you would get 70 feet. So you now would have a total of 120 feet of line out to achieve a 50 foot depth.

    Starting to make sense?

    Keep in mind that this is not exact science because the turning of the boat while trolling will affect the angle of the line which counter effects your depth. Hope this helps…



    You’re a funny man/boy perch… or you simply have to much time on your hands… or… maybe the warden finally caught up to you.

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #789735

    Pythagorean theory! I could never imagine where geometry was going to apply in real life and here you go!!!

    Pythagorus is mighty proud of you today Brad!

    Eric

    huntfishhastings
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 282
    #789762

    Thanks Ill be putting it to the test next weekend.

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