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  • gusschoenfeld
    Winsted, MN
    Posts: 409
    #1263497

    A while back there was a discussion on here about trailer tires. I can’t remember what brand everyone was bashing but that everyone seemed to love their goodyears. So I went and checked at the time and was relieved to see my tires were in fact goodyears. Well tonight my goodyears cost me a new fender, lights, and wiring cuz it dissintegrated without warning 3 miles from my house. They are from 2005 but showed no signs of trouble with plenty of tread and no weatherchecking. I know this because before we left for league tonight we checked air pressure and the oil in the hubs and generally looked everything over. At least I still tied for first even tho we were a half hour late.

    Jack Naylor
    Apple Valley, MN
    Posts: 5668
    #787958

    Eric,

    Here is the link on the trailer tires, 4 years on yours is not really too bad, might depend how many hours or miles are on them.

    I replaced my set this afternoon with the Goodyears. I bought my blown set of Carlisles last Sept. That is not many miles at all, but I was stuck way up in northern MN and had no choice in buying them then.

    Congrats on the 1st !!!!

    Jack

    Tire link

    fireman731
    Miles, Iowa
    Posts: 574
    #787951

    A little while back 20/20 did a article on tires. Even though you bought them “new” in 2005, they could be way way older than that. They were able to buy tires on 20/20 that were sold as new, that were actually 6-9 years old, and rubber does get old. They showed the “code” stamped on each tire and how to read it.

    gusschoenfeld
    Winsted, MN
    Posts: 409
    #788272

    I guess I’m just not accustomed to this problem. My father is running the same trailer tires from 1997. Which I can understand because it only is used a handful of times a year. My brother has the same tires that came on his trailer since 2001. That boat saw a lot of miles before I got mine in 05 and still gets above average usage.

    gusschoenfeld
    Winsted, MN
    Posts: 409
    #817754

    Wow less than 1000 miles on my NEW Goodyears bought July 10ish. Coming home from pool 4 on Saturday guess what happens? Yep right on 52. Capow! This time it took my fender completely off. Goodyears my a$$. Time for a change from those crap holes!!!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #817755

    Did you catch any fish?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #817757

    Ok, I’m stepping out of my comfort zone here a bit…but…

    It seems odd that you’re blowing tires, no matter what brand.

    Take a look at the other tire and look for more wear on the inside edge than on the outside. But even with a bent axle, problems shouldn’t show up in less than 1000 miles?

    It seems like something else is going on…more than just a bad brand of tire. Just my uninformed opinion though.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #817759

    Quote:


    It seems like something else is going on…more than just a bad brand of tire. Just my uninformed opinion though.


    My thoughts exactly.

    gusschoenfeld
    Winsted, MN
    Posts: 409
    #817772

    I’m pretty anal about mechanical upkeep on my equipment. I dont make a ton of money so when I have these possessions (truck, car, boat, etc) I take very good care of them mechanically. Before we left I checked tires for wear and air pressure and oil in the hubs. After it blew I felt the rim and hub for excessive heat cuz the bent axle came to mind as well. All seemed fine. Needless to say I’m not happy. As far as catching fish. Lets just say it was the worst November trip for us in the last 5 years.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #817775

    Sounds like an all around bummer of a trip. I really don’t have anything constructive to add beyond hoping that a change of brand of tires will be the solution for you. I know I’ve had nothing but phenomenal luck with good year marathon trailer tires but I do know that just about anything man-made can fail. I guess the only silver lining here is that is doesn’t sound like anyone was hurt.

    gusschoenfeld
    Winsted, MN
    Posts: 409
    #817776

    Noone was hurt and were able to cross traffic safely to get to the shoulder. Sorry if I sound so negative. It was just a bad day all together.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #817777

    Quote:


    Noone was hurt and were able to cross traffic safely to get to the shoulder. Sorry if I sound so negative. It was just a bad day all together.


    Don’t worry about sounding negative. We feel your pain. Been there. Nothing rounds out a tough fishing trip quite like having to fix a flat on the side of the road on the way home.

    northstar42
    west central Minnesotsa
    Posts: 921
    #817781

    Quote:


    I know this because before we left for league tonight we checked air pressure and the oil in the hubs and generally looked everything over. At least I still tied for first even tho we were a half hour late.


    I’m in the same boat on equipment. I can’t afford to keep replacing things so I have to take good care of them. My first question would be how big are the tires? I have blown several tires over the years and all have been the small boat tires. Air pressure is almost always the issue. If you pick up a nail, they run out of air pressure very fast because of their small size. Even though you check pressure every time out, low pressure will do you in very quickly and it happens just like your situation, sudden, explosive loss of tire. I doubt that tire brand or wear had anything to do with what happened. Put on the largest diameter size tire you can get away with and still fit under your fenders. Also take some time to consider the weight of your outfit and whether or not the tires are really rated for that size tire. Just a suggestion as you did not mention any of that information.

    Sure makes you mad!

    gusschoenfeld
    Winsted, MN
    Posts: 409
    #817785

    These are the 14 inch radial tires. The same that came with the boat and trailer boughten new in 05. I actually went with a 2800 lb trailer on a 17 ft boat just so I had plenty of beef for the job. As for the tires they dont just go flat the whole cap blows rightt off. Makes a mess of everything

    northstar42
    west central Minnesotsa
    Posts: 921
    #817787

    Quote:


    These are the 14 inch radial tires. The same that came with the boat and trailer boughten new in 05. I actually went with a 2800 lb trailer on a 17 ft boat just so I had plenty of beef for the job. As for the tires they dont just go flat the whole cap blows rightt off. Makes a mess of everything


    Nope, I was wrong about tire size because that isn’t what I was thinking. I would still bet on tire pressure though. Odd as that seems with you just checking, a complete blowup like you are describing is pretty rare. Still ruins your day.

    buck-slayer
    Posts: 1499
    #817791

    Red Lab I can’t believe I wasn’t with you . Blew a trailer tire and didn’t catch any fish. Sounds like my kinda trip.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #817813

    Quote:


    Quote:


    These are the 14 inch radial tires. The same that came with the boat and trailer boughten new in 05. I actually went with a 2800 lb trailer on a 17 ft boat just so I had plenty of beef for the job. As for the tires they dont just go flat the whole cap blows rightt off. Makes a mess of everything


    Nope, I was wrong about tire size because that isn’t what I was thinking. I would still bet on tire pressure though. Odd as that seems with you just checking, a complete blowup like you are describing is pretty rare. Still ruins your day.


    Not so sure, been trailering since the early 80’s and I’ve went though maybe 4 or 5 tires in that time, all went with a bang, and all went at freeway speeds or greater.

    Unfortunately when that happens its hard to tell if the tire failed or you hit road debris/potholes/etc

    I’m betting many of us are loading them tires to close to max load or greater, also doesn’t take much under inflation to start generating lots of heat.

    Sometimes hard to say whether its the tire or something else I’d think.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #817815

    Not sure if this has been mentioned. Goodyears are made in Canada and China. You want to make sure to get the Goodyears made in the good ‘ol USA.

    Just curious, where where your tires made?

    -J.

    lots-of-luck
    Mayer, MN
    Posts: 593
    #817847

    Sounds like you’re maxed out on weight or have a bad axle.

    Goodyear Marathons are about as good as it gets from my understanding. I put them on my rig when I bougt the boat and proceeded to tow it back to MN 570 miles at 70-75 mph.

    Good luck and keep us informed on your next tire purchase and the outcomes of future trailering.

    mnhass
    Dodge Center
    Posts: 38
    #817882

    red lab, have you checked to make sure your tire air gauge is correct. You might be unintentionaly over inflating your tires or possibly under inflating them.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #817892

    Quote:


    red lab, have you checked to make sure your tire air gauge is correct. You might be unintentionaly over inflating your tires or possibly under inflating them.


    Good point, I have three of the pencil style gauges and they read 8# different between them.

    Anyone know of a good tire gauge?

    Al

    gusschoenfeld
    Winsted, MN
    Posts: 409
    #817928

    I have checked it in the past against my buddies digital guage. He owns an auto shop in town. Not saying his is correct but would assume he would have lots of complaints and problems. Been a few months since Ive compared so mine could have been off by now too.

    northstar42
    west central Minnesotsa
    Posts: 921
    #818071

    Quote:


    Anyone know of a good tire gauge?


    I have a digital I swear by. I have three pencils and one was completely bogus when brand new. I will check the digital and see what brand it is. Gives tire pressure to 1/2 pound. I’ll check the brand when I go to the barn in the morning and post it.

    ken1mike
    sw. wright co.
    Posts: 30
    #818521

    red lab maybe you should go to the local grain elevator and put your boat on the scale to eliminate any weight doubt.

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