McDonalds and Carp

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1262207

    I’ve heard that the carp and such netted from the St Croix and from other parts of the river went to McDonalds for their Fillet O Fish sandwiches…

    Today at lunch, I noticed the words “white fish” on the box..and didn’t see any “dark meat” that carp have in the sandwich…so a quick search brought this up from http://www.treehuggers.com (fog horn).

    It’s easy to forget that McDonald’s, famous for its Big Macs and french fries, is also in the fish business. But indeed, McDonald’s purchases more than 18,000 metric tons, or 43.2 million pounds, of fish a year for its popular Filet-O-Fish sandwiches. Filet-O-Fish is made with pollock, a whitefish that lives in the cold waters off the coasts of Alaska and eastern Russia. The Marine Stewardship Council has certified U.S. Bering Sea/Aleutian Islands and the Gulf of Alaska pollock fisheries as models for sustainable fisheries management, but many retailers and foodservice operators still use whitefish from other fisheries that are less sustainable and traceable.

    In 2001, Gary Johnson, McDonald’s senior director of worldwide supply chain management, saw that McDonald’s might run up against limitations in the supply of whitefish in the future. So he invited whitefish suppliers to join a Global Fish Forum to assess worldwide whitefish resources. Since convening the forum, McDonald’s has shifted purchases away from less sustainable sources to more sustainable Alaska pollock. He also also helped develop a sustainability standard for McDonald’s fish sourcing, and has worked with several key whitefish fisheries to reduce illegal fishing. In 2007, more than 91% of all McDonald’s fish originated from fisheries with an MSC stock status of green or yellow.

    This week, Johnson was recognized at the Seafood Summit, an annual event hosted by the Seafood Choices Alliance held this year in San Diego. He and nine other individuals and organizations are finalists for the 2009 Seafood Champion award.

    So what do they do with all that carp that’s netted out of our rivers? Cat food??

    andyb
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 139
    #761597

    Maybe they use the carp in the BK big fish sandwhich… not to be confused with Brian K

    fishinfool
    mn
    Posts: 788
    #761599

    I may be wrong but i believe they are used for fish sticks and such that you buy in stores. they mix the fish with whitefish and other rough fish…

    FF

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #761603

    Have you ever tried the fish from BK? Burger King not you BK. That’s the worst tasting fish sandwich I ever had Good story as I always thought Mc Donalds fish sandwiches were some kind of fake synthetic blend

    channelcatben
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 363
    #761611

    Carp is often used in fish sticks and the like. It’s also an ingredient in Gefilte fish. And cat food. If the label doesn’t specify what kind of fish it is, there’s a good chance it’s carp.

    kingifsher1
    Posts: 23
    #761616

    The carp, buffalo and such that are netted out of the St. Croix are shipped off the the fish markets in NYC where it’s considered a delicasy by some. That is what I was told by one of the netters last spring.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #761629

    I think it’s odd that I can’t find what type of fish BK is using in a quick google search.

    smithkeith
    Waterloo, Iowa
    Posts: 889
    #761644

    Everyone knows it’s not fish……..it’s Tom Cat!!!!!!!

    2jranch
    Arcadia, WI
    Posts: 851
    #761647

    Quote:


    I think it’s odd that I can’t find what type of fish BK is using in a quick google search.


    BK BIG FISH® PORTION: Selected USDC: inspected fish portions (cod or pollock), water, wheat flour, enriched bleached wheat flour (niacin, iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin and folic acid), bleached wheat flour, modified food starch, yellow corn flour, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, yeast, sugar, onion powder, garlic powder, spice, oleoresin paprika to enhance color. Prepared in partially hydrogenated vegetable shortening.

    June

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #761648

    Brian – here you go!
    From the Fast Food Ingredients web site

    BK Big Fish® Portion [“Wild caught” Alaska Pollock, Bleached Wheat Flour, Water, Yellow Corn Flour, Modified Corn Starch, contains 2% or less of each of the following: Salt, Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour (Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Onion Powder, Garlic Powder, Spice, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Dextrose, Dried Yeast, Corn Starch, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Maltodextrin, Monoglycerides, Diglycerides, Leavening (Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate), Sodium Alginate, Paprika Extract (color), Spice Extract], Corn Dusted Bun [Enriched Unbleached Wheat Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour Or Alpha Amylase From Aspergillus Orizae, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Folic Acid, Ascorbic Acid), Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup Or Liquid Sucrose, Yeast, Vegetable Oil (Canola And/Or Soy) Or Soybean And/Or Cottonseed Oil, May Contain 2% Or Less Of The Following: Salt, (Vital) Wheat Gluten, Soy Flour, Vegetable Gum, Cellulose Gum, (Yellow) Corn Meal, Corn Starch, Corn Flour, Yeast Nutrient (May Contain One Or More Of The Following: Ammonium Sulfate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Calcium Sulfate, Calcium Carbonate) Dough Conditioners (May Contain One Or More Of The Following: Wheat Starch, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Sorbitol, Sodium Chloride, Magnesium Stearate, Distilled Monoglycerides, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Ascorbic Acid, Azodicarbonamide, Mono- And Diglycerides, Ethoxylated Mono- And Diglycerides, Calcium Peroxide, Calcium Stearoyl-2-Lactylate, Datem), Enzymes, Preservatives (Calcium Propionate And/Or Sorbic Acid)], Tartar Sauce [Soybean Oil, Sweet Relish (Cucumbers, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Vinegar, Onion, Salt, Red Bell Peppers, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Benzoate as a Preservative, Natural Flavorings, Extractives of Turmeric), Water, Egg Yolks, contains less than 2% of High Fructose Corn Syrup, Salt, Distilled Vinegar, Sugar, Onion*, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Spice, Natural† Flavors, Sodium Benzoate and Potassium Sorbate (as preservatives),Phosphoric Acid, Disodium Inosinate and Disodium Guanylate, Xanthan Gum, Calcium Disodium EDTA added to protect flavor], Lettuce

    channelcatben
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 363
    #761654

    “Yeah, I’ll take one fishwich, extra Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, please.”

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #761657

    MMMMMMMM….mmmmmmm!!!! Now that looks like a tasty fish samwich

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #761662

    I wonder if Mill Ruins catfish have that much crap in them?

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #761688

    Quote:


    The carp, buffalo and such that are netted out of the St. Croix are shipped off the the fish markets in NYC where it’s considered a delicasy by some. That is what I was told by one of the netters last spring.


    This is my understanding of much of the netted fish around La Crosse as well.

    FDR

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #761689

    While you guys get angry about what is in the filet o fish, I got a smoking deal on some freshwater drum at the local grocery store.

    Is seems to remind me of something

    wkw
    Posts: 730
    #761737

    Ever had Spirit Lake Salmon? Carp canned in tomato juice
    and vinegar. Hmmmmmm Hmmmmm Good!!

    shaley
    Milford IA
    Posts: 2178
    #761792

    When the netted here a month ago the sheephead went to be ground and the buffalo were sent live to New York, the guys said buffalo were worth their weight in gold in the eastern markets. To bad they didn’t take more.

    kingifsher1
    Posts: 23
    #761834

    Quote:


    the buffalo were sent live to New York, the guys said buffalo were worth their weight in gold in the eastern markets. To bad they didn’t take more.


    That’s what I was told as well by a netter last spring. THe buffalo are worth more in NYC and the eastern markets alive rather than dead. While I agree that they should keep more of them, is basically boils down to economics. If they took all the buffalo and sheepshead, There wouldn’t be any next year and they would be out of a job. They keep a few in the system as a breeding stock for years to come so they can keep coming back and stay employed. Same theory for fur trappers. Keep a few around for next year. That way there’s something to chase after next year.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #761845

    I’ve been told the same thing. But they do not even put a dent in the population. They get a time frame to do the netting. Once their dates come, they have to be done.

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