I’ll Admit it I was Wrong we are all SCREWED!

STRING ALL THE SOB”S UP !!!!!! HANG EM” HIGH

I can’t believe anyone expected a different result!

Dedicated funding has no place in government in my opinion (even if I wholly support the underlying cause).

Yeah, but I thought it would take a little longer and that they would just do it outright…

I knew this one was coming!! That’s why I voted no. They talked it up like it was going to be the greatest thing ever, and look what they do. I’m pissed to but seen it coming. just my 2 cents

Yes,thanks everybody who voted for it. More money out of our pockets to be wasted. People, we are one of the highest taxed states. Stop thinking it is a good idea to add another.

Don’t worry…it sunsets in 25 years.

They always seem to be patting you on the back and picking your pocket at the same time.

Yep we were sold another bill of goods. Does this happen because they know sportsmen and sportswomen are passionate about their thing and consequently vulnerable?

Maybe it’s time to contact our elected officials and demand accountability. Maybe we ought include in that accountability where lottery money was supposed to go also. For that to happen, members of lots of outdoor groups are going to have to put aside differences and together demand better through emails, calls, letters, etc.

I work seasonally for the DNR and at this point that might have to be reworded to past tense. Why? Because the DNR has never been in worse shape financially. License sales have been declining for years. Elected officials don’t know what the Outdoor Amendment money is for either because they are wanting to reduce funding to the DNR because of all this “new” money they think the DNR is receiving.

Yea I remember the whole “wasted money on that conference” thing. The difference between that wasted money and all the other waste is they got caught – maybe because the DNR is more visible and therefore under greater scrutiny? I have worked for the gov’t at county, state and federal levels and imo the DNR is one of the more efficient agencies. Obviously that could be up for debate but that’s what I saw and experienced.

We should all be infuriated about this latest scam – enough to organize and communicate until they get it right.

Many of our founding fathers came here because of taxation without representation. Imagine if they could see taxation with representation.

I was just at a TU meeting and they were talking about their presentation to get some of that money. Even though I regret voting for it, I hope that now it is passed that some of it will go where it should.

Geez Jon, first you post a message about dogs that is not true, and now this. What is the world coming to?!
DT

Jon
Welcome back to the core beliefs of conservative values.
Because you’ve held them and proved them (as have I), you will always return to rely upon them.

Quite honestly, I am a bit amused that anybody is surprised this is happening. Nobody learned anything from the lottery monies stated purpose and actuality?? Shame on anyone for being even a little surprised. In a few years, somebody in a suit and tie that never had to work for a days pay will dream up another cash cow, spin a yarn around that idea to play on the heartstrings of a group of people, and get that idea passed…….then afterwards, turn around and use the $$ any damn way they feel like….and most everybody will be all surprised again(I won’t)!

This is one of the rare times I can say……..I voted no and I was right.

Tim

i told all of you this was bad and that it would replace general funding. everyone swore up and down that it wouldn’t…

who’s the idiot now?….

Those are MN politics, so I’ll try to keep my nose on this side of the river. Here in WI, we have a guy they call Doyle (along with many other adjectives). He managed to do nearly the exact same thing here. Funding within our DNR has become a black hole to filter funds to “other” departments with short-falls. I hope some how, things turn for the better for your sportsmen.

Lets all take a wonderful, big bite of the crap sandwich that the majority voted for!

Their is plenty for everyone!

A tax increase that’s a constitutional amendment… to many loopholes in the system and to many slimy politicians willing to exploit them.

Its time to push for term limits people!!

Your on a roll Jon..

I am suprised anyone is suprised by this. It was pretty obvious from the start (at least to me) that this was going to happen.

I voted no and it sounds like they (in a nut shell) Will use the money some where else if need be? Am I right or am I missing some thing?

NEVER vote for a new tax. Just don’t do it guys. It never is what it is supposed to be. Instead of us giving more, how about they take what we have and spend it wisely? That is my stance and will be forever.

Plenty of us knew better.

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Now, Now Folks, Settle down. What we all really need is another light rail line. Can I pull my bass boat with that???

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Now, Now Folks, Settle down. What we all really need is another light rail line. Can I pull my bass boat with that???

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I’m sure I’ll be roasted alive for my opinions on this, but doesn’t anyone else see the irony?

Here we have a conservative governor who DID NOT support the amendment, unsurprisingly, cutting the general and other funding avenues of the DNR. Yet, somehow he’s not responsible for his own actions, and it’s the fault of the folks who voted for it in the first place? Then we get the rank-and-file rants from the taxpayers leaguer’s like they were read from a cue-card. How can you not call this retaliation?

What people are failing to understand in this situation is that the very conservative, fiscally and otherwise, values being propagated, are the ones being undermined by another conservative.

I don’t care who you vote for either, conservative and liberal aren’t dirty words for me. This isn’t a Republican or Democrat issue.

The Missouri model has been a resounding success. For those of you who’ve had the joy of hunting or fishing in that state, I think you’d agree with me. They’re consistently ranked in the top 5 states in the nation based on user satisfaction of everything from state parks to WMA’s. This type of funding exists in a good number of other states as well.

Just because our politicians are attempting to monkeybuttize it, doesn’t mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. It simply means we need new politicians.

Start writing letters, or better yet, make a phone call. Get into a good argument with the 18 year old staffer that’s manning the phone lines. Don’t allow them to read from their scripts like they will. Make them uncomfortable, and above all, make them promise as part of their civic duty and employment responsibility, to communicate your concerns directly to the elected official you’re trying to contact.

Joel

Good points. Sorry to keep harping on this but Minnesota is one of the highest total taxed states. Missouri is in the bottom 10. So it sounds to me that Missouri is able to do so much more while bringing in so much less money. Missouri could decide to add another sales tax and they still would be taxed much less taxed than us here in Minnesota. How do these other states get by bringing in less money but Minnesota always seems like they need a new tax? Sounds like maybe the State of Minnesota likes to waste a lot of money. The solution is/was not to have another tax. They already get plenty of money.

I’m all for making the outdoors better, but it shouldn’t be more of a tax burden to its residents who are already kind of in the position.

Every single tax paying citizen in Minnesota should be outraged! You, as a self respecting tax payer in this state must send your objections. It doesn’t matter if you supported the amendment or not. You are now paying this tax. The fact they are stealing the money is wrong. Here is how to contact your legislators and the Governor:

http://www.gis.leg.mn/mapserver/districts/

On the above link, simply type in your Home address and it will list your state reps.

http://www.governor.state.mn.us/contacts/index.htm

The above link has direct links to the Governor’s office.

In your message you must start out with your Real Name, Address, and phone number.

Be polite but stern in your objections. But tell them how you really feel. Insist on a prompt reply. If you don’t get one in 24 hours, re-send the message. Keep at it until you know your message has been read and understood.

-J.

Jon:

Thanks for doing your homework and providing these links!!!

Joel

Yawn……..

I personally allotted for some of the 25 Billion to be re-directed, stolen or whatever adjective you want want to use. I didn’t think that was to hard to figure out.

Being a supporter of the amendment my thinking was and is if just a mere 12 BILLION were used for things outdoor related it was a win/win.

I’ll add its great you guys are on top of this even before they start collecting the Tax from us….

Carry on!

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How do or would you feel if none of the money went to the DNR or outdoor projects?

-J.

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Being a supporter of the amendment my thinking was and is if just a mere 12 BILLION were used for things outdoor related it was a win/win.

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Wow, with thinking like that no wonder our taxes are so high! How about we get what we pay for, for once.

That or 1 week try handing out 1/2 a paycheck to your employees…. Even though I voted NO, like said, I am paying it…. my Rep got a NASTY email from me. I don’t think this will help Paw with outdoorsman/people, if he really plans on running for the prez in 2012.

big G