Cribbage question

  • buckshot
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 1653
    #1261084

    I am sure there might be a cribbage player or 2 on this site.

    In order to get 4 points for a flush in your hand.
    You need all 4 cards in your hand to be the same suit, correct?
    And
    If the cut card suit matches your suited hand you get 5 points, correct?

    In order to get points for a flush in the crib.
    You need all 4 crib cards AND the cut card to be the same suit scoring 5 points, correct??
    There is no 4 point flush in the crib, correct?

    That is the way I was taught 20+ years ago.

    The reason I ask is because New Years eve I was told(by a typically unreliable source)that you can also get 4 flush points in your hand for having 3 suited cards that match the cut card. So club, club, club, diamond in your hand and a club as the cut card.

    Has anyone here ever heard of that or play that way???

    r._kayle
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 205
    #734969

    You are right.

    dandorn
    M.I.N.N.E.S.O.T.A.
    Posts: 3249
    #734971

    What Buckshot explained is the way we always play as well.

    There is a 4 pt. flush hand in a normal hand!

    stuart
    Mn.
    Posts: 3681
    #734973

    Correct

    wheres_waldo
    The Big Pond
    Posts: 478
    #734974

    You got it right. On more reason to think your source is unreliable.

    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Posts: 0
    #734975

    In order to get 4 points for a flush in your hand.
    You need all 4 cards in your hand to be the same suit, correct? YES
    And
    If the cut card suit matches your suited hand you get 5 points, correct? YES

    In order to get points for a flush in the crib.
    You need all 4 crib cards AND the cut card to be the same suit scoring 5 points, correct?? YES
    There is no 4 point flush in the crib, correct? YES

    The reason I ask is because New Years eve I was told(by a typically unreliable source)that you can also get 4 flush points in your hand for having 3 suited cards that match the cut card. So club, club, club, diamond in your hand and a club as the cut card.
    Has anyone here ever heard of that or play that way??? NO

    theduck
    Posts: 149
    #734977

    You can have a 4 pt flush hand only if all four cards in your hand are the same suit. If the Start card (flipped card) is also the same suit as your hand then you have a 5 pt flush hand. You can not have a 4 pt flush in the crib. All four cards plus the start card must be the same for a 5 pt flush in the crib.

    Like everyone else has stated you are correct. At least that is how I have played for 25 plus years now.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #734981

    What everyone else has said

    buckshot
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 1653
    #734986

    That is what I figured and all the cribbage sites I looked at were consistent with what I stated.

    The person was totally adament that they were right so I figured I would ask if anyone else plays that way just in case there was some variation I had never been exposed to.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    buck-slayer
    Posts: 1499
    #735023

    Your not suppose to cut in cribbage. I’ve played where you take a point if you get the other team to cut. Also heard that if you are offered the cut you can take the deal away. Play with a group of guys that don’t let you take 2pts if a Jack is cut and you have 5pts or less to go out. What’s right?

    John Schultz
    Inactive
    Portage, WI
    Posts: 3309
    #735030

    You don’t cut before the deal. Have played the “you get 2 points” rule on somebody cutting the deck if offered, but never the 1 point rule on offering up a cut. If you flip a jack, it is 2 points regardless of how many points you need to get out the way I’ve always played. Doesn’t mean its correct though.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 23123
    #735035

    I have played with people who take one for a offered cut.. I also have played with people who take mulligans, any points you missed counting in your hand or your crib, they take. BTW, I have never heard of a flush with matching three ???? How stupid does that sound ??? Why not for 2 and the matching turn card ???

    big G

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #735057

    Another one of my pet peaves in cribbage is people that don’t know how to peg and count runs while pegging.

    Here is an example/test.

    How many point’s has each player accumilated pegging in this hand.

    Ex: 2 players. player 1 going first in order lays 2-6-5-2 and player 2 lays 4-3-7-1

    shaley
    Milford IA
    Posts: 2178
    #735060

    Player 1 11 points player 2 6 points.

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #735062

    One players total is correct.

    theodorenugget
    Sugar Land, TX
    Posts: 609
    #735065

    I just learned so I will try..

    Player 1 15 twice
    Player 2 15 once

    for every 15 I get, that is equal to 2.

    Right?

    theodorenugget
    Sugar Land, TX
    Posts: 609
    #735067

    Wait.. Maybe more.. Whoever dealt plays off other persons hand too ?? I am not sure. Maybe I just get partial credit. There were several cold beverages consumed when I was taught.

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #735069

    Player 1 is laying first.

    mbenson
    Minocqua, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3842
    #735084

    Player 2 is correct, if you count the run out of order. We play that the run can only be counted if the run is in order, so based on that player 1 get 2 for the 15 and player 2 gets 1 for the final card.

    Mark

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 23123
    #735094

    In your scenario, player two gets 2 for 15, player 1 gets 5 for 20, player 2 gets 6 for 27, player 1 gets 6 for 29 & player 2 gets 8 for 30. Hows that ???

    big G

    shaley
    Milford IA
    Posts: 2178
    #735097

    Forgot the 15-2 and last card, I was just counting runs. Player 1 11 player 2 9

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #735099

    Quote:


    In your scenario, player two gets 2 for 15, player 1 gets 5 for 20, player 2 gets 6 for 27, player 1 gets 6 for 29 & player 2 gets 8 for 30. Hows that ???

    big G


    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!…

    16 pts for player 2 and 11 pts for player 1.

    blufloyd
    Posts: 698
    #735113

    I was confused for years by a relative that scored ‘go’ backwards. I am proud possessor of Great grandfather’s Ivory pegged civil war set.

    I wish I played more.

    buck-slayer
    Posts: 1499
    #735119

    Is any of this in the Book of Hoile? I don’t have one but heard its the bible of games.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 23123
    #735132

    Found this… by Hoyle ??

    Cribbage pegging

    The count
    In the next phase of cribbage, the players take it in turns to lay down a card, trying to make the running total equal to certain values. The non-dealer plays first and states the value of her card (for example, “ten” for a Jack). Court cards count ten (together with the face 10 they are known as the ‘ten-cards’, or ‘tenth cards’). Ace counts one.

    15 and 31

    The dealer then plays a card, the value of which is added to the current running total. The player who makes the total exactly 15 scores two points (“fifteen-two”). Two points are also awarded for making 31. Additionally, you score a point if your opponent cannot play without going over 31 (“one for the go”, or just “one for go”).

    Pairs
    If your card is the same rank as the last card played, you score two for a pair. If your opponent plays a third card of the same rank, he scores 6 for a “pair royal” (three of a kind). Four of a kind scores 12 (“double pair royal”).

    Runs
    If the last 3 cards played form a sequence, the player making the sequence scores 3 for a “run”. For example, 3-4-5 makes a run of 3 and so scores 3 for the player laying down the 5. If the opponent then plays a 6 (or a 2) to extend the sequence to 4 cards, she scores 4, and so on as long as the sequence is unbroken.

    Sequence do not have to be in order. For example, if the play goes 7-9-6, you can then play an 8 to score 4 for a run of 4.

    The rules of ‘go’
    The cribbage rules for scoring ‘go’ sometimes cause confusion. You earn a point for go when your opponent cannot go. This may be (a) because he has no cards (sometimes called ‘One for last’), or (b) because he cannot play without going over 31 (‘One for the go’). In either case if you make the total 31 you score only 2 points on the cribbage board, not 3 (because the go is included, as described above). However, you may well make 15 with the last card (in which case you do score 3).

    This is exactly how I have played for over 30 years…

    big G

    Jack Naylor
    Apple Valley, MN
    Posts: 5668
    #735198

    Yep, me too.
    Jack.

    Ted Wedul
    holmen, wi
    Posts: 765
    #735229

    Quote:


    I am sure there might be a cribbage player or 2 on this site.

    In order to get 4 points for a flush in your hand.
    You need all 4 cards in your hand to be the same suit, correct?
    And
    If the cut card suit matches your suited hand you get 5 points, correct?

    In order to get points for a flush in the crib.
    You need all 4 crib cards AND the cut card to be the same suit scoring 5 points, correct??
    There is no 4 point flush in the crib, correct?


    You are dead on right here!! As for your unreliable source on New Year’s Eve…it is just that…UNRELIABLE… I have never seen it done that way or read about it in the rules!! Estimated games so far…10,000+ games…

    Ted

    Ted Wedul
    holmen, wi
    Posts: 765
    #735233

    Player 1 – 11
    Player 2 – 16

    barebackjack
    New Prague, MN.
    Posts: 1023
    #735235

    Player 1 = 11
    Player 2 = 15, in this instance I would be player two cause I always win!

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 23123
    #735225

    Quote:


    Player 1 = 11
    Player 2 = 15, in this instance I would be player two cause I always win!


    Player 2 also gets 1 for last card

    big G

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