Founder of weather channel may sue Al Gore !

This is on Fox News web site Here
It would be interesting to see what they come up with!

Ed

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It’ll never happen; Coleman has no standing and he has no science behind him. The discussion is just a publicity stunt.

I’d like to see it though — the results would be similar to the attempt of the creationists trying to interject religion into the science classroom in Dover, PA.

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As opposed to Al Gore’s stance that is supported by “real” science???????

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It’ll never happen; Coleman has no standing and he has no science behind him. The discussion is just a publicity stunt.

I’d like to see it though — the results would be similar to the attempt of the creationists trying to interject religion into the science classroom in Dover, PA.

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As opposed to Al Gore’s stance that is supported by “real” science???????

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I don’t understand how the scientist who say global warming is happening are better qualified than the scientist who say it isn’t!! But that seems to be the best argument they have for it!

Ed

Here is the way I look at it. The Earth is constantly cooling and heating, if you look at temperature records, it goes back as far as records have been taken. So, the argument of whether or not the Earth is warming and cooling is a moot point. The problem is that the people who think the sky is falling do not know the difference between causation and correlation. We as fisherman and outdoorsman care a lot more about the environment than some activist who just wants to redistribute wealth does. If there was actual scientifice truth or facts, then by all means, we would need to change. Facts involve numbers and prove truths, they do not simply correlate to occurances.

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It’ll never happen; Coleman has no standing and he has no science behind him. The discussion is just a publicity stunt.

I’d like to see it though — the results would be similar to the attempt of the creationists trying to interject religion into the science classroom in Dover, PA.

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What science does Al Gore have?

And who funds the international panel on climate change if it is determined to be out of our control?

That’s nice.
Now can you show me where Coleman DOES NOT have the science to back him up?

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What science does Al Gore have?

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http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm

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The main thing I see with that is “Intergovernmental”. Which to me means the Government is involved!!! And we all know they have never been wrong!!!

Ed

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It’ll never happen; Coleman has no standing and he has no science behind him. The discussion is just a publicity stunt.

I’d like to see it though — the results would be similar to the attempt of the creationists trying to inerject religion into the science classroom in Dover, PA.

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If he has no science behind him why would he make this statement?

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“Since we can’t get a debate, I thought perhaps if we had a legal challenge and went into a court of law, where it was our scientists and their scientists”

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Ed

As a science geek, I would like to clear up some things with Global Warming.

1) It is incorrectly named, which is what is causing much of the debate in the forums. It is true the Earth does have warming/cooling cycles, which are related to the comings/goings of ice ages. It should have been named, Climate Chaos, because that is what we humans are causing/speeding up through the our many types of pollutions. This is why we have extreme weather events happening randomly around the world.

2)It is true that the government is involved, because money is involved. Does this help/hurt the problem solving process? Yes, exactly the same as how governments/rulers have slowed down scientific advancements throughout Earth’s history. Galileo was imprisoned for teaching that the sun was the center of the solar system, rather than the Earth for example.

3)Is Earth is peril? Yes. Can we stop it? No. Can we delay/slow down the destruction of Earth as we know it? Yes, but only if World Politics are removed from the equation. That won’t happen, so that answer changes to no.

4) My advice do what you can to reduce your polluting activities, we all have them, to ensure that our children have the chance to do their part.

So, when is the world coming to an end. I just might take out that $60k loan for a new Ranger.

Peril? Destruction of the Earth?

I think someone had an early Sinatra scramble.

Mars is facing the same perils of ice caps melting and other solar system planets showing same warming. No it can’t be our solar cycles, not a chance.

My prediction is the panel is going to start scrambling for new explanations of why the earth starts cooling in 2012 – 2020. They won’t have aerosols this time to explain the cooling trend.

Oh but we might all be dead by then.

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Here is the way I look at it. The Earth is constantly cooling and heating, if you look at temperature records, it goes back as far as records have been taken. So, the argument of whether or not the Earth is warming and cooling is a moot point. The problem is that the people who think the sky is falling do not know the difference between causation and correlation. We as fisherman and outdoorsman care a lot more about the environment than some activist who just wants to redistribute wealth does. If there was actual scientifice truth or facts, then by all means, we would need to change. Facts involve numbers and prove truths, they do not simply correlate to occurances.

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Just think about how many years people have traveled to Alaska to see the glaciers melting…..Since they keep melting, more earths’ suface area is exposed. Common sense isn’t it???????? But know that vegitation is growing where Ice once was; the earth is going to burn up

Here’s my take on this and like subjects. Are we as people, doing things to harm or cause destruction of our planet & inhabitants ? Yes. Can I do anything about it ? Maybe. Will we ? I doubt it…. maybe its too late already, I don’t know and we will probably never find out in 300 more generations….

big G

Im no rocket scientist but if the big bang darkened the skies and created the ice age who in the hell doesnt think things are going to thaw out when the skies cleard up and the sun came out.The good news is we dont have to deal with those pesky Dinosaurs.

Can someone tell me why the Vikings came to North America?

When you tell me because of the ice age,
can someone please tell me how humans created the ice age 500+ years ago?

I need to be edumacated.

This guy has the only logical thinking I’ve seen yet:

Some guy

I have the silver bullet. There are 3 boxes that lead to economic hardships and only one that doesn’t. In the bottom left box he should maybe had a grin, not a smiley. Add to that another row where it turn out to be solar related or something other than greenhouse gases or maybe a row where $$$ doesn’t actually fix whatever is causing global change.

I like the way the guy thinks though. I often use exaggeration to prove points or make decisions in my life.

The way hes thinking is about the way I think but more versed and it makes sense to try to plan ahead in case things do get bad. Look what happens if we don’t and global warming is gradually happening. It dosen’t hurt a bit to try to do things that would only help the atmosphere. I know things have gotten better in the last 40 years and were ahead atleast that much considering what it would be like if we haven’t had. I remember when the Hudson river in New York caught fire in the 60’s because of factory runoff, I think that was the wakeup call for alot of people. Theres nothing wrong with fine tuning our emmesions the best we can to try to be as safe as we can,,,within immediate reason.

Global warming is the BIGGEST scam ever put on the American people. It basically took the planet one hundred years to warm one degree and in the last year that has been offset by our one cold winter. To these tree hugging wackos this has become a religion. This is absolute BS.

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Im no rocket scientist but if the big bang darkened the skies and created the ice age….

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The big bang theory did not darken the skyes or cause the ice age. I believe you are thinking of the theory of a meteor impact. The “big bang” occurred billions of years before this planet even existed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

-J.

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So, when is the world coming to an end. I just might take out that $60k loan for a new Ranger.

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Not that I personally believe it, but Google up the date December 22, 2012.

-J.

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The way hes thinking is about the way I think but more versed and it makes sense to try to plan ahead in case things do get bad. Look what happens if we don’t and global warming is gradually happening. It dosen’t hurt a bit to try to do things that would only help the atmosphere. I know things have gotten better in the last 40 years and were ahead atleast that much considering what it would be like if we haven’t had. I remember when the Hudson river in New York caught fire in the 60’s because of factory runoff, I think that was the wakeup call for alot of people. Theres nothing wrong with fine tuning our emmesions the best we can to try to be as safe as we can,,,within immediate reason.

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The problem is who defines what is within reason. Not all people have the same level of tolerence.

The danger of imposing restrictions on liberty is where do you draw the line. Who needs a V8, or V6? To pull a boat? Why do you need such a big comfortable boat? Why do you need a gun? How many people really ever need it? Why do you need 3 bathrooms that each have 4 gallons of water per flush, cant you just use one that barely works?

This planet will heat and cool for the next 4 billion years. Then one of 2 things will happen. The planet will lose it’s gravitational relationship with our sun and will spin off into space and become a frozen, lifless rock. Or the sun will explode and oblierate the earth. It’s only a matter of time…..

-J.

I was watching a show last week, I think it was on the Science Channel, that they are talking about dispersing dust in the atmosphere to recreate the cooling effect of a giant volcano eruption!!

Ed

I know what your saying Belgian and I’ve thought is this really whats happeneing or are we just going through a warming trend cycle like the trends in the past few thousand years. I personally don’t know whats going on and im not a tree hugger extreemist anything. About all I want to do is become as little polluting as possible if I can. I don’t plan on changing the way I heat my house because I can’t afford it and I like the way wood burns anyway, I do know its only replacing the CO2 that it took to grow that wood in the first place. Vehicle emessions being lowered is in the near future anyway with the technology thats discovered and will be in autos in the near future. I know theres alot of doomsday hype in some of the information we read but my neves won’t handle that way of thinking so I just calmly do what I can and can afford other wise I can’t do it anyway. Every little bit helps some but im not going to go out of my way to build an electric bicycle to run to the grocery store on sunny days and an electric car for the days its raining.

I am all for cutting emissions and making changes, I just want them to be optional and not imposed. What the international community wants out of the Global Warming argument is too far reaching and quite frankly, none of their business.

Ya Jon, the suns supposed to expand twards the end of its life and ingulf the earth but thats not for another hundred million years or so, I guess im safe until then.