Stopped in and checked out the new Glass Tyee and Fisherman. They look really sharp. I like the fisherman’s layout the best. The 186 is a big boat. I am waiting to see the 19 ft Pro-v GL. If they are as sharp as the Fisherman the wife is really going to get mad at me.
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Lund’s new Glass Boat.
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March 5, 2008 at 4:03 am #662087
Rigging Guy
There is a reason us guys have everything we own on wheels and that boat is another example.
Good LuckMarch 5, 2008 at 6:11 am #662116
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am waiting to see the 19 ft Pro-v GL
Rigging,
Was at the boat show last month and there was (am sure) 4 different Lund glass boats.
they really are very sharp looking, and am sure they will be quite popular
(but maybe NOT with the ladies)
also, Good Luck.
Jack.March 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm #662141I thought I saw a glass Lund at the Madison Fish Expo. Reasonably priced at $69,000. The boat was so expensive they charged me $5 just for looking at it.
GNFISNPosts: 208March 5, 2008 at 1:21 pm #662147$ 70,000 for a boat , much less one without a track record. Good luck with that , Lund .
March 5, 2008 at 1:43 pm #662159Hoot’s Sport’s has the 186 Fisherman with a 175 Verado for under $40,000. The Pro-v GL will be more like in the mid $50,000 range for the 208 gl. Yes it is alot of money. Compaire with Ranger or any other glass boat and the pricing is in the ballpark. A really nice boat. The fit and finnish and overall roominess in the boat is nice.
March 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm #662168Quote:
Hoot’s Sport’s has the 186 Fisherman with a 175 Verado for under $40,000. The Pro-v GL will be more like in the mid $50,000 range for the 208 gl. Yes it is alot of money. Compaire with Ranger or any other glass boat and the pricing is in the ballpark. A really nice boat. The fit and finnish and overall roominess in the boat is nice.
I saw the 186 GL at the sports show a couple months ago. I believe it had a price tag North of $40k (well it was on sale for $39,995), several K more than the Ranger Reata. Maybe they have already dropped the price because of low sales because the boat market is a little rough right now? Maybe customer’s figured since the Lund is pretty much a copy of the Ranger, why not get the Ranger?
March 5, 2008 at 2:17 pm #662173I checked them out at the last boat show I worked. I was suprised how high they sit on the trailer. I can’t imagine that boat fitting in a garage. I also thought the price was high for that type of boat, but how high they sit on the trailer is what really shocked me.
StaggoPosts: 36March 5, 2008 at 4:14 pm #662242If you watch the video of the new GL Lund boat it looks like it sit high on the water. Has anybody taking the GL for ride?
March 5, 2008 at 4:15 pm #662243Scott thats a great point! I think that the boat height on a trailer is really important.( I know you are talking about garage door height) For me, I’m always reaching into the boat to grab a rod, tackle box whatever. With my old Ranger I don’t need to climb in or even get up on the trailer to reach inside. Guys, for most of us the boat sits in our garages more then it is in the water! When looking at boats check to see if you can reach into them without climbing in. It may not be a big deal for you young bucks but………….your day is coming.
Great point Scott!!
Sorry, I don’t mean to change the direction of this thread.
March 5, 2008 at 4:57 pm #662272This was posted in the Outdoor Forum about the Lund sitting higher –
“I was told at the Minneapolis show that the trailer that boat was on was a show trailer and that’s why it sat up so high.” I would imagine they’ll be low profile like Ranger (of course).
March 5, 2008 at 4:58 pm #662274I was told that the trailers they are on at the show are not the trailers they are going to normally be on. They were using these trailers until new ones made for specifically for the boat were available. There were several comments like this after the Minneapolis boat show.
March 5, 2008 at 5:29 pm #662285If I rembember right, there should be a few of these hanging around Hunter’s Point this summer. I think George and his sons might be running them this year.
March 6, 2008 at 12:07 am #662473The one that I saw down here at a show sat REALLY high on the trailer too. And the trailer that it was sitting on had glass fenders that matched the boat. So are they dolling up trailers with glass that matches the boat, only to take all that stuff off later and put a new trailer under the boat?
March 6, 2008 at 1:12 am #662491This is in response to B.Curtis post:
The Lund is no way even close to a Ranger by design. You better take a closer look next time. Dont get me wrong here I am in no way trying to poke at Ranger’s. The Lund boat is a Lund design in itself. Yes it is a new design and it does look different than any hull I have seen in Fiberglass. I think they do have a good selling point in the boat design. The ability to backtroll straight. The market has not slowed down much from my dealer’s standpoint. They are having a tough time keeping boat’s in stock. The boat’s are selling quite fast to say the least. They have sold 4 glass Tyee’s and Fisherman combined and soon to be six. The dealer’s are alotted a certain number of glass boat’s. I do believe they will be done soon on their allowance.I am waiting for the Pro-V to show up and maybe get a test drive this spring. I think they will be a nice boat. They sure look nice anyway’s. The height is tall but their are way’s of getting around that. If you look at the bottom of the boat you will see why the boat has to sit so high on the bunk’s. The footprint of the boat is so wide you have to raise the bottom of the hull up to get the tires underneath it so the trailer is not too wide. Wider footprint means a couple of things. Faster holeshot’s and better performance. I have not been in one on the water yet, but knowing Lund this boat will be every bit as good as the Lund aluminum boats if not better.
March 6, 2008 at 2:14 pm #662611Quote:
This is in response to B.Curtis post:
The Lund is no way even close to a Ranger by design. You better take a closer look next time. Dont get me wrong here I am in no way trying to poke at Ranger’s. The Lund boat is a Lund design in itself. Yes it is a new design and it does look different than any hull I have seen in Fiberglass. I think they do have a good selling point in the boat design. The ability to backtroll straight. The market has not slowed down much from my dealer’s standpoint. They are having a tough time keeping boat’s in stock. The boat’s are selling quite fast to say the least. They have sold 4 glass Tyee’s and Fisherman combined and soon to be six. The dealer’s are alotted a certain number of glass boat’s. I do believe they will be done soon on their allowance.I am waiting for the Pro-V to show up and maybe get a test drive this spring. I think they will be a nice boat. They sure look nice anyway’s. The height is tall but their are way’s of getting around that. If you look at the bottom of the boat you will see why the boat has to sit so high on the bunk’s. The footprint of the boat is so wide you have to raise the bottom of the hull up to get the tires underneath it so the trailer is not too wide. Wider footprint means a couple of things. Faster holeshot’s and better performance. I have not been in one on the water yet, but knowing Lund this boat will be every bit as good as the Lund aluminum boats if not better.
Well you got me there. I didn’t get out and study the hull. I guess I don’t know enough about hull design to know by looking at it that it can backtroll straight.
All I can say is my wife knows nothing about boats and when she got into the Lund she said ‘This is exactly the same as our boat’. Ted didn’t have much to say to that. He certainly didn’t go into how it backtrolls straight.
Lund is very proud of these boats with the price they put on it(again, I only have seen the GL), but it sounds like there are certainly lund lovers willing to pay the lund premium. For me, I don’t have brand loyalty so with the gap in price (at least there was a huge gap at the boat show) I wouldn’t even look at the Lund. Now if it was priced closer to the Ranger then I would take a look at it.
March 6, 2008 at 3:18 pm #662637
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I was told that the trailers they are on at the show are not the trailers they are going to normally be on. They were using these trailers until new ones made for specifically for the boat were available.
The ones I saw were ready to go. Meaning, you could have backed up taken them home. They had a special step ladder made to look into the boats. They have to get that changed or that will be an issue for them.
March 6, 2008 at 5:48 pm #662711Quote:
They had a special step ladder made to look into the boats. They have to get that changed or that will be an issue for them.
I agree! If I have to bring a step ladder everywhere I go just to get into the boat! Talk about a hassle putting it in and out of the water by yourself. Does anyone actually know if the height is an issue in a normal garage door. This would be a terrible design flaw on many levels.
FDR
bailey99Posts: 253March 6, 2008 at 6:31 pm #662723Just got off the phone with an authorized Lund glass boat dealer.
Nelson Marine.The trailer for the glass boats do sit high.
Measurement from the floor level to the top of windshield is: “under 7 feet”, 64″ to the gunwale on the Tyee GL186.MSRP for a 208 Pro-V is $59k, loaded, with 250 Verado.
Now;
compare to a 620 Ranger w/full windshield.
approximately 60″-65″ from the floor to the gunwale. Salesman didn’t know how high the windshield is. He stated verbally on the 60″-65″, stating “shoulder heigth” and the salesmans stated the 60″-65″.
“mid-high” $50000 for a 250 verado, boat, trailer, with NO electronics.
This was Frankie’s MarineSounds like a horse-a-piece to me
March 6, 2008 at 11:05 pm #662905The price will change at every dealer you talk too. Everyone’s package is priced different. I just know that Hoot’s sell alot of boat’s down south for one reason. They have a better price. I think if you did a fair comparrison on prices the boats will be priced close in your area. If you look at the transom on the Lund you will see that the motor is not offset like other glass, hence meaning the boat will track straight when you backtroll. As far as the height goes I will go down to Hoot’s tommorrow and compair the Glass to a Pro-V IFS on a bunk and get the measurements out soon. It is a new design some people like it, some dont. You are the only one that can make that choice. Myself, I stand behind Lund. It is a new and different design and opening up alot of eye’s. I have been running and rigging Lund Pro-V’s for quite a few year’s and trust me I dont get wild on fad’s. I am not the typical guy that run’s down and buy’s a boat on a wim. The Pro-V is one great boat to fish out of. The new glass just looks really nice and looks like it will compete with the aluminum boat on fishability.
John GildersleeveMarch 7, 2008 at 12:48 am #662942Quote:
compare to a 620 Ranger w/full windshield.
approximately 60″-65″ from the floor to the gunwale. Salesman didn’t know how high the windshield is. He stated verbally on the 60″-65″, stating “shoulder heigth” and the salesmans stated the 60″-65″.
“mid-high” $50000 for a 250 verado, boat, trailer, with NO electronics.
This was Frankie’s MarineSounds like a horse-a-piece to me
This is an actual new boat for sale:
Ranger 620
Yamaha F250 Four Stroke, Lowrance graphs and Minnkota Bow Mount- This is one serious tournament boat with a price to match! $48,999.00
I have seen this boat and IMO all you need to add is a kicker which would put about $51,000.00. And this is before you start negotiations. I think that you could get better pricing even with a Verado.I would like to see one of the new Lund’s in person though. They should have a Demo day similar to Ranger.
FDR
P.S.For the record I own a Lund, but would like to go Glass some day.
March 7, 2008 at 3:07 am #662998I saw the 4 glass Lund boats at the Mpls show too. I agree totally with Scott – and that was my first impression of the rig. I’m also wondering how well these high-riders are going to load and unload in low water like we had at many of the lake ramps last year?? I had a hard time finding deep enough water for my Skeeter,… and my buddy had the same issue with his Ranger 619. Those boats sit inside the trailer fender wells and are much lower to the water at initial launch. If Lund does not change the high-ride trailer design, there will be plenty of squalking by new boat owners when they try and launch those rides. ….The boats are very nice though.
bailey99Posts: 253March 7, 2008 at 2:08 pm #663128are you guys on crack?
Call the dealers yourself then and ask them yourself how high the gunwale is on a 620 and the gunwale on a glass Lund. There is about 5″ of difference.March 7, 2008 at 2:36 pm #663149Quote:
are you guys on crack?
Call the dealers yourself then and ask them yourself how high the gunwale is on a 620 and the gunwale on a glass Lund. There is about 5″ of difference.
5″?? Hmm, looks like I’ll need to bring a step ladder with, dang short pocket syndrome.
March 7, 2008 at 3:00 pm #663171
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Call the dealers yourself then and ask them
Better yet, go look at one for yourself like we did
bailey99Posts: 253March 7, 2008 at 5:31 pm #663259Quote:
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Call the dealers yourself then and ask them
Better yet, go look at one for yourself like we did
don’t see a reason too. Already got my answer!
March 7, 2008 at 10:55 pm #663377I went too Hoot’s and Measured from the floor to the top of the windshield. The first boat was the Fisherman 186gl on thier standard trailer. It measured 83 inches. The other boat was a 1900 IFS sitting on a Ez-Loader tandem roller trailer. It measured 80 inches. The tandem will sit lower than the gl trailer for some simple reason’s the tires are only 13 inch tires on the tandem verses 15 inch on the GL’s trailer. Now if you put a 1900 pro-V on a Bunk trailer with 14 inch tires it will be in the same ballpark as the gl trailer as far as overall height goes. The sides of the gl are deeper then the Aluminum boat. The deeper side will aid in not getting wet on big water. This is the difference in height you are seeing. So to some it up the boat will fit in a standard garage door. Yes you might need a step ladder to access the boat when it is on the trailer. Their are a whole lot of other bad points about boat brand’s that can be pointed out. Try spearing waves for one, engine been pulled off the transom, bad stringer’s rotting made of wood the glass spider cracking the list goes on. Their is not one brand out their that has a perfect score. Their are all kinds of bad point’s that can be brought up to make people mad and start another super long thread for no reason. Like someone said some just like too stir the pot some. My comment is if you are going to do this get the facts straight first so you can make a valid point. Just think that this post was started just to say that the new Lund look’s nice. Look where it has gone too now. What a joke.
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