I was talking to a guy the other day about ice fishing and he told me that this year in minnesota you dont have to buy a license for a portable ice shack but you need to for a permanent?? and i didnt really believe him as it still says you need one in the reg book. I havent heard anythin about it anywhere else, is it true??
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October 21, 2007 at 11:03 pm #618379
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I was talking to a guy the other day about ice fishing and he told me that this year in minnesota you dont have to buy a license for a portable ice shack but you need to for a permanent?? and i didnt really believe him as it still says you need one in the reg book. I havent heard anythin about it anywhere else, is it true??
I believe your friend is correct.
October 21, 2007 at 11:06 pm #618381You will only need to have a tag on your portable if you leave it out over night!!!
October 22, 2007 at 12:16 am #618395really? thanks guys. how did u find out? do you still need ur name on it?
October 22, 2007 at 12:18 am #618386Bob and Chappy hit right on the head ,Only permenat shacks and any overnight stays with portable need a license now.
October 22, 2007 at 1:06 am #618417i thought it read over night unattended? does someone now the right answer?
October 22, 2007 at 2:50 am #618443I can only assume you would still need your drivers license or DNR number.
October 22, 2007 at 2:44 pm #618572I thought the old regs you only needed your DNR number or drivers license number on the portable.
October 22, 2007 at 6:39 pm #618659im getting a little confused now haha…so in years passed we didnt need licenses for portables? i know that you have to have your identification on it but i thought you always needed a license too. this is from 2007 reg book…maybe im looking in the wrong place.
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• All shelters, which include dark houses, fish houses, and portable shelters, placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the (1)complete name and address, (2)driver’s license number, or (3)the nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least 2 inches in height. Dark houses, fish houses, and portable shelters placed on the ice for shelter while fishing must be licensed, except that a license is not required on border waters with Wisconsin, Iowa, North and South Dakota.
October 22, 2007 at 6:56 pm #618667You have always needed to have your name & address & DL#, then they changed to just D Lic # , or dnr number. I seen it published this spring,that you do not need a shelter license for any house, that you are occupying, and that you do not leave unattended. The way I understand it, if it is noon and your portable is not occupied, for example, you ran on your ATV to the resort for lunch, it would then need a license. If you are fishing overnight in it, then you would not, because you are occupying it. I emailed the DNR for clarification. I will post their response here when I get it.
big g
October 22, 2007 at 7:14 pm #618674Quote:
I emailed the DNR for clarification. I will post their response here when I get it.
big g
Thanks Big g.
I thought that with the new regulation passing and not needing a license it would take effect in the upcoming year. I figured since it was passed in ’07 it would cary through the 07-08 season, and then starting in 08-09 Then it would take affect much like the dates in which we may buy our new license.
October 23, 2007 at 11:17 am #618847This is from the book. Look here Fishing Regs
Shelters
The following regulations apply to fish houses, dark houses, and portable shelters used on all Minnesota waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
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Nonresidents may obtain a license for a fish shelter. However, the
shelter cannot remain on the ice when unattended.
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All shelters, which include dark houses, fish houses, and portable shelters, placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the (1)complete name and address, (2)driver’s license number, or (3)the nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least 2 inches in height. Dark houses, fish houses, and portable shelters placed on the ice for shelter while fishing must be licensed, except that a
60 DNR Information: (651) 296-6157 or (888) 646-6367
Ice Angling and Spearing
license is not required on border waters with Wisconsin, Iowa, North
and South Dakota.
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A tag, furnished with the license, must be attached to the exterior in a readily visible location.
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Dark houses, fish houses, and portable shelters must have a door that
can be opened from the outside at any time when in use.
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Fish houses left on the ice overnight need to have at least 2 square
inches of reflective material on each side of the house.
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Fish houses must comply with the identification requirements of the
state for which the angler is licensed.
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No person may erect a dark house, fish house, or shelter within
10 feet of an existing dark house, fish house, or shelter.
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Portable dark houses, fish houses, and shelters may be used for fishing within the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness (BWCAW), but must be removed from the ice each night. The structure must be removed from the BWCAW each time the occupant leaves the BWCAW.October 23, 2007 at 4:33 pm #618941Doug Smith,star tribune says…
Minnesota’s ice anglers won’t have to license their portable fishing shelters any more — unless they plan on leaving them on the ice overnight.
That’s the result of a new law passed by the 2007 Legislature. Owners of about 60,000 portable shelters will be affected. Few portable shelters are left on the ice overnight.
Ice fishing shacks left overnight, which obviously would include most of the state’s 90,000 permanent shelters, still must be licensed.
“The Legislature decided we shouldn’t be licensing portables anymore,” said Bob Meier, assistant commissioner in charge of government relations for the Department of Natural Resources. “They wanted to give people with portable shelters a break.”
That saves anglers with portable shelters $11.50 a year but would cost the DNR about $768,000 in lost revenue. So the Legislature increased nonresident fishing license fees to offset that loss.
The cost of nonresident individual fishing license, now $34, will increase to $37.50 next year. The increase is expected to raise about $680,000 yearly.
Nonresident anglers took another hit: A $2 surcharge for aquatic invasive species management also is being added to all nonresident fishing licenses.
With the usual $1 issuing fee, that means a nonresident individual will pay $40.50 for a Minnesota fishing license. The state sells about 266,000 nonresident fishing licenses yearly.
Minnesota residents pay a $5 invasive species surcharge every three years with their boat registration fees.
Permanent shelters, whether with wheels or skids, still need a fish-house or dark-house license if they stay on the lake overnight.
There is a new three-year fish house license for permanent shelters.Lawmakers extended the date on our fishing licenses to April 30 also.
An angler in a dark house or fish house can fillet fish or possess fish fillets within size limits if the angler is preparing the fillet or fish for a meal. In the past, anglers could not possess fillets on lakes with special regulations because DNR officers have difficulty determining if the filleted fish were within legal limits.
October 23, 2007 at 5:33 pm #618959Here’s what I got back from the DNR. My email and response.
I’d say you are right. Here’s the law:
License required. A person may not take fish from a dark house or fish
house that is left unattended on the ice overnight unless the house is licensed and has a
license tag attached to the exterior in a readily visible location, except as provided in this
subdivision. The commissioner must issue a tag with a dark house or fish house license,
marked with a number to correspond with the license and the year of issue. A dark house
or fish house license is not required of a resident on boundary waters where the adjacent
state does not charge a fee for the same activity.Suellen Rau, Supervisor
Information Center
MN Department of Natural Resources
Bureau of Information & Education
500 Lafayette Rd
St. Paul, MN 55155-4040
651/296-6157
[email protected]>>> “Glen Ertl” <[email protected]> 10/22/2007 2:40 PM >>>
Hopefully you can clear something up for us. I am under the understanding, you do not need a shelter license for portables anymore. In other words, those shacks not left unattended on the lake, overnight. One guy says, if you occupy it overnight, you need a license, I say only if you leave it unoccupied do you need a license. Please clear this up for us. Thanks in advance.Glen Ertl
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http://www.mckaysfamily.comOctober 23, 2007 at 6:28 pm #618972“would cost the DNR about $768,000 in lost revenue. So the Legislature increased nonresident fishing license fees to offset that loss.”
October 23, 2007 at 6:33 pm #618976Quote:
That saves anglers with portable shelters $11.50 a year but would cost the DNR about $768,000 in lost revenue. So the Legislature increased nonresident fishing license fees to offset that loss.
This gives me that uneasy feeling, kinda like the feeling I get when reaching for the soap in the men’s shower room
October 23, 2007 at 6:34 pm #618977Yep. Its the scam effect. Same with snowmobiling. Pretty soon everyone will have resident only seasons like some others.
timmyPosts: 1960October 23, 2007 at 6:50 pm #618978Quote:
“would cost the DNR about $768,000 in lost revenue. So the Legislature increased nonresident fishing license fees to offset that loss.”
Good. If Iowa gets $450 or whatever for a lottery deer license, then $37.50 for an over-the-counter fishing license that provides access to thousands of lakes for the full year sounds like a steal to me. MN has always had very cheap licenses for out of staters, but other states keep jacking prices sky-high. Fishing is one of MN’s prime resources, and I don’t see why we shouldn’t charge accordingly.
If the both of the dakota’s get over $100 each for both small game AND waterfowl licenses, whining about a full year license to fish for under $40 seems really funny to me.
Tim
October 23, 2007 at 7:07 pm #618988
Good. If Iowa gets $450 or whatever for a lottery deer license
Just because you are in the lottery, doesn’t mean you are paying. I’m ok with this increase, I’m not buying a shelter tag, so it all evens out for me, but where does it all stop? South Dakota is higher for fishing, and because of the cost of hunting, I wouldn’t consider it. There is a price where some states might out price themselves.
October 23, 2007 at 7:10 pm #618992
Good. If Iowa gets $450 or whatever for a lottery deer license, then $37.50 for an over-the-counter fishing license that provides access to thousands of lakes for the full year sounds like a steal to me. MN has always had very cheap licenses for out of staters, but other states keep jacking prices sky-high. Fishing is one of MN’s prime resources, and I don’t see why we shouldn’t charge accordingly.
If the both of the dakota’s get over $100 each for both small game AND waterfowl licenses, whining about a full year license to fish for under $40 seems really funny to me.
Tim
I fully agree
October 23, 2007 at 8:08 pm #619012Quote:
Good. If Iowa gets $450 or whatever for a lottery deer license, then $37.50 for an over-the-counter fishing license that provides access to thousands of lakes for the full year sounds like a steal to me. MN has always had very cheap licenses for out of staters, but other states keep jacking prices sky-high. Fishing is one of MN’s prime resources, and I don’t see why we shouldn’t charge accordingly.
If the both of the dakota’s get over $100 each for both small game AND waterfowl licenses, whining about a full year license to fish for under $40 seems really funny to me.
Tim
I fully agree
I was going to say the same thing.
IA has big deer, MN has great fishing, seems like a fair trade to me. I have been asking for a $150 fishing license for IA residents only. I think the deer licese fees would go way down when it is reciprical.
October 23, 2007 at 8:29 pm #619025Quote:
Ya smooth move. Now WI N.R. lisc. will go up to $75 from $60
I think it’s $50 but I do understand your point it will be $75 sooner than later.
October 23, 2007 at 8:57 pm #619030Quote:
Here’s what I got back from the DNR. My email and response.
I’d say you are right. Here’s the law:
License required. A person may not take fish from a dark house or fish
house that is left unattended on the ice overnight unless the house is licensed
This is a little confusing…..How can a person fish from an “unattended” fish house??
Don’t ya have to be there to “attend” ??
How can you fish if your not there??
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JKOctober 23, 2007 at 9:24 pm #619035Quote:
IA has big deer, MN has great fishing, seems like a fair trade to me. I have been asking for a $150 fishing license for IA residents only. I think the deer licese fees would go way down when it is reciprical.
Oh boy! your saying Iowa gains just as much in revenue from MN only deer hunters as MN gains in revenue from IA only fishing revenue. Hey give me some of that stuff! What ever happened to the MN legislation having a Minnesota resident only first week of fishing?
timmyPosts: 1960October 24, 2007 at 12:27 pm #619170Quote:
Oh boy! your saying Iowa gains just as much in revenue from MN only deer hunters as MN gains in revenue from IA only fishing revenue. Hey give me some of that stuff! What ever happened to the MN legislation having a Minnesota resident only first week of fishing?
No – I never said that. I was comparing individual costs – not total state revenue.
What I said was if I were to go to Iowa to hunt deer, it would cost me $450. If an IA resident comes here to fish, it will cost them $37.50. We have some the best fishing offered out of any of the states – and when I hear people pizz-whining about a yearly license that is under 40 bucks(after an increase) it boggles my mind. If it were up to me, the non-res license would be WAY higher than it actually will be after the increase.
MN’s best resource, marketing-wise, is it’s abundant lakes and fish. Other states have been jacking their prices for their best assets for a long time, and I think it is time we follow suit. Over $100 for a 10-day pheasant hunt in SD is only $10/day. LEts do the same here – sell non-res fishing licences in ten day blocks for $100 – and let people buy as many as they want……
Timshow148802Posts: 31October 24, 2007 at 12:38 pm #619176Quote:
when I hear people pizz-whining about a yearly license that is under 40 bucks(after an increase) it boggles my mind.
Over $100 for a 10-day pheasant hunt in SD is only $10/day. Lets do the same here – sell non-res fishing licences in ten day blocks for $100 – and let people buy as many as they want……
TimQuote:
October 24, 2007 at 12:46 pm #619182No offense intented Chomps
It is a hard pill to swallow when the surrounding states take advantage of the resources they have with high license fees, however MN does not charge these states the same fees for our resources. Would this be a big hit to IA guys coming to MN, yes, but no worse then if I want to hunt deer in IA.
Last year or the year before, MN charged IA bowhunters in MN the same fees, and you would think we took their birthdays. Yes it is expensive, but IMHO, the IA DNR made their bed, we should make them sleep in it. It sucks that it impacts you, but it sucks more that it impacts me.
My $.02
October 24, 2007 at 12:52 pm #619187I was wondering that myself…. It would be impossible to fish from an unattended fish house, IMHO.
big g
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