Sweet innocent puppies

  • FRIVERS2
    Posts: 240
    #614827

    Steve, attached is the schedule. If it is difficult to read search on Dockdogs.com. For some reason it is less condensed and easier to follow.

    I know it says registration closed but generally if you wish to jump the dog, you can sign up on site. The dog would be a novice (1-9 feet). I can check ith my son and see if he knows about on site registration if you wish.

    The psycho dogs tend to perform better once they become acclimated to the runway and pool. The good ones just go wild when it is their turn to jump. I will also add that unless your friend’s dog has jumped off boat docks, etc. it may decide it does not want to jump. This is not uncommon and even a small ploop off the dock is a great start.

    The World Chamionship indoor and outdoor dogs will bothbe their. The outdoor record holder, named Country, is a mix between a Greyhound and Coon Hound. I believe the dog is from New York. The indoor record holder is a Black Lab named Gunner Boy. My son’s dog has beaten Gunner Boy as recently as last weekend, but to my knowledge no dog has beaten Country.

    The Schedule:

    2007 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS PRESENTED BY CABELA’S – Rogers, MN
    Friday, October 12, 2007
    Rogers, MN URL: http://www.dockdogs.com/component/option,com_extcalendar/Itemid,53/extmode,view/cat_id,/extid,339/
    Email: [email protected]

    Fax-In Registration for this Event
    print out, fill in and fax to 330-241-4976

    Presented by

    DockDogs® 2007 National Championships
    Presented by Cabela’s
    Rogers, MN
    October 12-14, 2007

    EVENT SCHEDULE

    Friday October 12, 2006
    big air & ev practice
    10:00 am
    main dock *pot luck – byob, food, dish & instrument
    see competitor information kit for more details

    ev cadet competition (finals)
    12:00 pm main dock

    novice div. prelim. rd. 1:00 pm dock trailer

    ev topgun prelim. rd. (dn. to 6)
    2:00 pm
    main dock
    junior div. prelim. rd.
    3:00 pm
    dock trailer

    Best western – pot luck jam*
    6:00 pm plymouth room

    Saturday October 13, 2006
    Novice/Junior Finalists Practice
    9:00 am main dock
    see competitor information kit for more details

    Open Dock practice
    9:00 am
    dock trailer
    Senior div. prelim. Round
    10:00 am
    dock trailer
    Novice div.Finals
    11:00 am
    main dock
    Junior div. Finals
    12:00 pm
    main dock
    Master div. Preliminary Round
    12:00 pm
    dock trailer
    Super Elite Division prelim. Round
    1:00 pm
    main dock
    Senior div. finals
    3:00 pm
    main dock
    Elite div.prelim. Round

    3:00 pm
    dock trailer

    Sunday, October 14, 2006
    Master div.Finals
    10:00 am
    main dock see competitor information kit for more details

    lap Dog Finals (Top 4 teams)
    11:00 am
    main dock
    Elite div.Finals
    11:30 am
    main dock
    Veteran Dog Finals (Top 4 teams)
    12:30 pm
    main dock
    Super Elite div. Finals
    1:00 pm
    main dock
    ev TopGun Finals (6 teams) 2:00 pm
    main dock
    ** SCHEDULE SUBJECT TO CHANGE **

    Event Information

    Don Hanson
    Posts: 2073
    #614829

    Thats a great looking shepherd. I used to walk my dog with a guy that used his shepherd for upland hunting. The dog used to carry a stick in his mouth the whole walk. He was a decent retriever.

    fishinallday
    Montrose Mn
    Posts: 2101
    #614943

    Quote:


    Not sure I have ever read about a lab, collie, poodle etc…MAULING and KILLING anyone. BIG difference between Being bitten and being KILLED.

    I don’t mind being called a woman, especially when its comes from such a nice transvestite as Kooty.


    I have the scars from 42 stitches that were inflicted by a black lab. The dog went straight for my head when walking home from school. (3rd Grade) With that said. I have owned labs and retrievers. I will continue to own them. I will NEVER own a pitbull and my children will NEVER be allowed in a home with one. IMO if the black lab had been a pitbull….. Well… I wouldn;t be writting this post.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #614951

    The Pioneer Press did a story on this topic in today’s paper. Notice the “Dangerous Dog” count in Apple Valley includes 5 labs/lab mix, 5 pit bulls, 4 terrier/mix as breeds.

    Dangerous Dogs

    -J.

    Edited to add text and graphic:

    After recent high-profile attacks, some Twin Cities suburbs are considering enacting tougher laws on aggressive dogs.

    BY MARICELLA MIRANDA

    Pioneer Press

    Article Launched: 10/09/2007 12:01:00 AM CDT

    Dangerous Dogs (Sherri LaRose-Chiglo, Pioneer Press) It’s been nine years since Libby got a bad reputation as a “potentially dangerous” dog.

    The black Labrador retriever earned the title after she chased two neighborhood dogs out of her Apple Valley yard and bit one, said her owner, Annette Larson. The neighbor reported the bite to police. Libby has not attacked since then, but her rap sheet will follow her for life.

    If she slips up again, the Larson family fears a proposed stricter Apple Valley ordinance aimed at banning dangerous dogs in the city could take their 14-year-old arthritic pet away.

    It’s one of several stricter ordinances being proposed in the suburbs, such as Apple Valley and Cottage Grove, after a recent string of dog attacks in the metro area. Attacks are also causing national concern, which has resulted in locales in other states – such as Florida, Texas and Oregon – adopting tougher laws on aggressive canines.

    “Dangerous dogs are a really hot topic right now,” said Adam Goldfarb, issues specialist at the Humane Society of the United States in Washington, D.C. “A lot of times, the news around these attacks is almost immediately followed by some type of legislation.”

    In Minnesota, state law currently allows cities to declare dogs “dangerous” if the animal bites a person (and inflicts substantial bodily harm like a fracture or disfigurement) or kills a domestic animal.

    Also, a potentially dangerous dog that attacks or endangers again can be labeled as dangerous.

    Cities in other states have adopted up to five levels for defining dangerous dogs based on the severity of their attacks, according to Goldfarb. Others have put the responsibility on the owners, such as limiting how long a dog can be chained outside or deeming the dog potentially dangerous if authorities detain it two times or more in a year.

    Minnesota law also says dogs can be ruled potentially dangerous if an unprovoked dog chases, menaces or bites a person (without causing substantial bodily harm) or bites a domestic animal.

    In Apple Valley, dogs can never ditch the label – even if they never attack again.

    “Our kids are concerned what’s going to happen to our dog” if the ordinance changes, Larson said.

    TOUGHENING LAWS

    Apple Valley Police Chief Scott Johnson hopes the ordinance he is helping draft will prevent dog attacks by banning dangerous dogs from the municipal boundaries. He is looking to other cities that ban dangerous dogs – including Buffalo – for help in crafting Apple Valley’s law.

    “The vast majority of dog owners in every community are very responsible people, but there are some that are irresponsible – and that’s why this ordinance has come to (be),” said Johnson.

    The City Council first considered revising its dangerous dog ordinance, which currently mirrors state law, at a work session Sept. 12. The council will take up the matter again Thursday.

    This year, Apple Valley police deemed four dogs dangerous. Three were euthanized, and the fourth moved. All were pit bulls. The city still has 29 potentially dangerous dogs, however. Otis, a 13-year-old Lhasa Apso, has been a potentially dangerous dog for six years.

    His offense happened one day when he escaped from his fenced yard and ran toward a grandmother and her grandchildren in nearby Redwood Park, owner Debra Holm said. The fearful grandmother allegedly kicked Otis.

    The dog bit the grandmother on the leg and police declared Otis potentially dangerous.

    Police last checked on the 12-pound, deaf and partly blind dog in August.

    “He’s shaggy-haired and he can’t hear or see,” Holm said.

    But Holm supports banning dangerous dogs in Apple Valley.

    “I am concerned about dogs that are on the dangerous list – the ones that are pit bulls and that kind of a dog,” Holm said. She worries about unleashed dogs in city parks.

    Of the 25 reported dog bites this year in Apple Valley, seven were from pit bulls.

    In Apple Valley, potentially dangerous dogs must have a microchip implanted in them for identification and be registered with police, Johnson said.

    Dangerous dogs must meet those requirements – and more. The dogs must be fenced when outside in a locked kennel with a roof and floor, be attended and muzzled while leashed, wear a “dangerous dog” collar tag and be covered by insurance of at least $50,000. The owner of a dangerous dog must post warning signs on the building or enclosure where it lives and must notify police if the dog moves or dies.

    Cottage Grove police want to slap those rules on potentially dangerous dogs, too. They also want renters to be notified if a potentially dangerous dog lives in the same building.

    Dog attacks in Cottage Grove prompted city officials to consider tightening its ordinance, public safety director Craig Woolery said.

    Police have ruled 30 dogs potentially dangerous since 2002, but they haven’t tracked how many are still living in the city.

    Two dangerous dogs reside in Cottage Grove.

    The Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission will hold a public hearing Oct. 16 to discuss possibly tightening the ordinance, Woolery said.

    BREED-SPECIFIC PROHIBITIONS?

    Local officials in Minnesota have played with the idea of banning certain breeds of dogs, especially pit bulls – a breed that’s been involved in at least three major dog attacks in the past two months in the Twin Cities and other, less severe assaults.

    Minnesota law currently forbids regulating dangerous or potentially dangerous dogs based solely on certain breeds. But the Legislature could soon change that.

    Rep. John Lesch, DFL-St. Paul, in June introduced a bill to ban breeds of dogs deemed dangerous: the Akita, pit bull, Rottweiler, wolf hybrid and chow chow. If the Legislature approves the bill when it convenes in February, owning them would be a misdemeanor.

    Other regions, including Denver and Miami-Dade County in Florida, have laws banning pit bulls.

    But the problem with banning breeds is identifying them, Goldfarb said. For instance, pit bulls have several look-alikes, such as the boxer, American bulldog and mastiff.

    Goldfarb said breed-specific legislation is ineffective because it fails to target the owners of dangerous dogs. Abusing dogs or failing to neuter male dogs can lead to dog attacks, he said.

    Goldfarb said the large number of pit bulls gives them a bad reputation.

    “If there’s more of them, there’s going to be more bites by them,” Goldfarb said. “When you look back through history, there’s always the dog that’s the ‘dangerous’ dog.”

    The Rottweiler was “that dog” in the ’90s. The Doberman pinscher and German shepherd were it in the ’60s and ’70s, as were bloodhounds and Newfoundlands 100 years ago.

    “Right now, the pit bull is that dog,” Goldfarb said.

    Maricella Miranda can be reached at [email protected] or 651-228-5421.

    WHY DOGS ATTACK

    More than 70 percent of dogs that bite are male and have not been neutered.

    Dogs chained outside regularly are nearly three times more likely to bite.

    An aggressive dog might be abused, neglected or untrained.

    IF YOU GO

    The Cottage Grove Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission will hold a public hearing at 7 p.m. Oct. 16 at City Hall, 7516 80th St. S., to discuss passing stricter restrictions on potentially dangerous dogs in the city.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #614958

    Jon when I click on that link it asks me to sign in with a password.

    FRIVERS2
    Posts: 240
    #614961

    Chris, I agree. However, whomever owned the lab that bit you should be held accountable, not the dog.

    My friend, a neighbor, took in a black lab that had been locked in the basement every day for eight years while this woman, the dog’s owner went to work. This dog was big and mean; however, he has been rahabed and in three years has been just fine. However, he is still very cautious around females.

    As for your comment about Pit Bulls, I cannot disagree. Having a Pit bull around little kids is a disaster waiting to happen.

    As for the Apple Valley report, meningless, considering labs are by far the most popular dog in the US, and I suspect every other dog in Apple Valley is a lab. I know someone else posted this, and I wish he would have cut and pasted the article.

    Despite the influx of labs in the US does anyone know the most popular dog in the world.

    b-curtis
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 1438
    #614983

    Is that a trick question? I looked…all I could find was “mixed-breed”; the mutt.

    FRIVERS2
    Posts: 240
    #615092

    Not a trick question, albeit the mutt is probably first. So who is number two.

    As for Apple Valley’s dangerous dog stuff, just a politcal bunch of crap.

    b-curtis
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 1438
    #615173

    Not sure on the dog. the lab is #1 in the US and UK, but I guess I will be biased and say the German Shepherd. It is #3 in the US and they are popular in Europe? It is probably an ankle bitter.

    Could you clarify how the article is political crap? I thought it made a couple good statements. It seemed to say the law would be per dog/owner and not per breed. Maybe I missed something? Here are those points:

    Quote:


    “The vast majority of dog owners in every community are very responsible people, but there are some that are irresponsible – and that’s why this ordinance has come to (be),” said Johnson.



    Quote:


    Goldfarb said breed-specific legislation is ineffective because it fails to target the owners of dangerous dogs. Abusing dogs or failing to neuter male dogs can lead to dog attacks, he said.


    I think this is a good point too:

    Quote:


    But the problem with banning breeds is identifying them, Goldfarb said. For instance, pit bulls have several look-alikes, such as the boxer, American bulldog and mastiff.


    Go to this site and pick out the American Pit Bull Terrier. I got it on the third try.

    Find the pit bull

    FRIVERS2
    Posts: 240
    #615216

    The most popular purbred in the World is the German Shepherd Dog.

    My comment about political stuff relates to the fact that I doubt if most of the people involved understand dogs or dog owners. I promise to provide a detailed response later, but can say any ordinance needs to focus first on the dog owner. Futhermore, requiring a dog to be kenneled is great, if you want to make the animal mean. Please do not misunderstand, I would never imply dogs should be allowed to run free.

    I could not extract the complete article so my comments will be based on the excerpt Jon provided.

    chamberschamps
    Mazomanie, WI
    Posts: 1089
    #615278

    The misidentification thing is a huge problem. Go to that previously posted link and see if you can find the true american staffordshire pitbull terrier. I betcha it doesn’t look like you think it does.

    I think that media often throws the words “pit bull” into a story just to get it printed. Lets take the article that started all this into consideration…

    Quote:



    MIDDLEBURG, Fla. — Two pit bull terriers fatally attacked their owner who had raised them since birth, authorities said Tuesday.

    Tina Marie Canterbury, 42, was walking to her back yard when the 2-year-old redbone pit bull terriers attacked her, according to the Clay County Sheriff’s Office.

    One of Canterbury’s sons tried to help her, but the dogs attacked him. He was not seriously injured, authorities said.

    A family friend shot at the dogs to scare them away. A deputy shot one of the dogs. The other dog ran away but was found two hours later and killed, authorities said.

    Clay County Sheriff Rick Beseler said he couldn’t remember such a severe dog attack since becoming sheriff three years ago.

    There were no signs of dog fighting or other abuse at the Canterbury home, authorities said.


    1st ID is “pit bull terriers”. That’s not a breed. Pit bull is slang meant to refer to dogs that are most commonly thought of as pit bulls (wide chest, big head…). If you went to that site, you’d find that maybe half of the pictures match that profile, but only one is a true american staffordshire pit bull terrier. Also, the last term of that ID is “terrier”. Not a breed either, but a type of dog. If you don’t accurately know the breed of the dog, just call it a dog attack.

    2nd ID is different from the first. A “redboned pit bull terrier”. That’s certainly not a breed. That’s not even a term used to commonly describe pit bull type dogs. Redboned refers to a type of Hound. So is it a pit bull x hound mix? Was it a “red nosed” pit bull? Or did the writer of this article hear from the authorities that “they were big dogs that might have been pit bulls”. Or was the writer just creative and threw the words “pit bull” in there to make sure the editor prints the article?

    I’ve done some looking and there is not much information concerning this particular attack. Specifically, no images of the attacking dogs. I call BS on this…

    FRIVERS2
    Posts: 240
    #615281

    I agree. A few months ago four dogs attacked employees of WTMJ’s radio station in Milwaukee. The dogs were initially all identified as Pit Bulls; however, as you say there is no such breed. Eventualy they were identified as Rottweiler and other dog mixes, including a beagle.

    Nonetheless, the so-called Pit Bulls tend to be mixes of Rottweilers and usually other big dogs, such as a boxer or bull dog.

    And the stats support the fact they they are more likely to attack and do more damage.

    FRIVERS2
    Posts: 240
    #615450

    Steve,

    thanks for the post. As some can probably tell I am very prejudiced when it comes to German Shepherd Dogs. Unlike me, my son thinks labs are the best dogs on the planet.

    If you can make the Cabela’s National Championships in Rogers, Mn. please introduce yourself. Timber, my GSD will not be along, but you will see two yellow labs with Fleet Farm vests on (black & blue). Please introduce yourself and if we have a bit of food and refreshments you are welcome to it.

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