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caused Bond’s hat and shoe size to increase

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Steroids, etc cause somethings to grow and others to shrink…a just reward

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Guys,

I hate to do it this way, but I’ve been on steroids now for 2 years trying to become a better fisherman. I figure if I can cast farther and more accurate, it’s got to help me right?

lol..jk

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PLEASE SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!

I’m with Whiskerkev….I’m SO ready for some FOOTBALL.

What I don’t like about Bonds (besides the steroid allegations) is that he has openly said that at most at bats, he sees pitches that he could easily get a single or double off of, but lays off because he only wants to hit the long ball. Not much of a team player if you ask me.

I am glad though that he broke the record so we dont have to listen to “Chasing Hank” anymore. It was hard to watch anything because they’d either cut to his at-bat or would run a scroll at the bottom showing the count.

I agree with Erick’s posts. Barry Bonds, like it or not, is the most dominant player to ever play baseball. Just look at his stats, it’s a fact. You can not take that away from him unless there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he’s guilty of using “illegal” performance enhancing drugs. There is a lot of “legal” over the counter stuff that works almost as good as the “illegal” stuff. So to say that his records and stats or no good is skeptical at best. You can not go on just suspicion itself to say that he is using the “illegal” stuff, so until there is actual proof, he is innocent and his accomplishments should be appreciated by the baseball community.

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What I don’t like about Bonds (besides the steroid allegations) is that he has openly said that at most at bats, he sees pitches that he could easily get a single or double off of, but lays off because he only wants to hit the long ball.

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Do you really think that Barry Bonds was brought in to hit a bunch of singles? I don’t buy the part about singles “or doubles”. There is not much difference between a pitch that you can hit a double off of and one you can hit a home run off of. It’s just a matter of whether the batter gets the right part of the bat on the ball.

What part of trying to do his job leads to him to not being a “team player”?

I think we have to be careful what we wish for. There are a few posts here wishing that A-Rod catches and passes Barry. Who knows what will turn up in his closet. We all thought Puckett was a saint.

Barry is also getting ripped because he’s bad with the media. There have been other good players that had the same issue (Winfield, Henderson, Morris) and there will be more in the future.

Barry deserves credit for what he’s done on the field, could you imagine how big a star he’d be if he had media flare?

He’s a great player but a terrible spokesman for baseball.

Eric

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Barry Bonds, like it or not, is the most dominant player to ever play baseball. Just look at his stats, it’s a fact.

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Pretty bold statement. Definitely NOT a fact.

How is he not????? I dont have all of the exact stats on hand, but here are a few. 1st all time in homeruns, 1st all time in walks, 3rd all time in RBI which he is about to take 2nd I beieve. 35th all time in hits and he is still playing, will most likely hit the 3,000 hit milestone. Not to mention many gold gloves, stolen bases, on base percentage, and many mvp’s. I didnt say the “best” player ever, I said the most dominant player. I believe the stats speak for itself.

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Barry Bonds, like it or not, is the most dominant player to ever play baseball. Just look at his stats, it’s a fact.

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Pretty bold statement. Definitely NOT a fact.

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WOW that is a statement that took me off guard!

Barry “Crybaby” Bonds the most dominant player to ever play baseball

So he is up there in the Joe D, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, etc etc class??

From the Primos guys “THIS AINT HOLLYWOOD!”

And oh yeah if he is found to have used illegal drugs I bet he wont get the chance to be voted into the hall of fame……………

Greatest player huh my left ___

I sure can not name off very many other players in the last 10 years that have stats quite like that. Your right if he does get found guilty of illegal drugs/enhancments than ya make sure he does not get voted in. The stats do speak for themself though look at all the achievements he has achieved in his career and you say he is not a dominant player in this day in age? There are without a doubt some amazing players in todays game but show someone with that consistant of stats for his career. Ripken was an everyday player with an awsome glove and consistant bat…..Puckett an all around good ball player and club house figure along with Gwynn. Along with some outstanding pitchers like Glavine, Smoltz, The Rocket, Big Unit ect. There are MANY first class Hall of Famers and soon to be Hall of famers out there but how many have MULTIPLE categories where there at or near the top. Barry IS a dominant player in my eyes if all stands in the future so like said ten other times congrats to Barry.

Barry and his record are what you choose to make them.

big g

Bonds was a great player in his day. Unless you remember back in his Pirate days he was a big bust in the playoffs every year. His stats are all BS! He prolonged his career by 5-7 years by juicing and using HGH. Steroids are not just for building size and stregth but recovery and healing. He is cheating a-hole and if you cannot even admit that, then Monica Lewinsky must have been a mirage under Clintons desk! Put this way would you want you kid to turn our like Barry Bonds? I doubt it.

As BESOX wrote, he admitted in grand jury testimony that he used them but claims he didn’t know it was steroids. But I suppose since that info was leaked it isn’t true? And why is his best friend sitting in jail refusing to talk? It still blows my mind that anybody outside of San Fran thinks he is clean. I guess you needed to be there to see him stick the needle in his to know he did it. He won’t ever be found guilty because he won’t ever be put on trial for using steroids (can’t think of anybody who ever has). So I guess the only way you guys will ever believe it is if Barry admits doing it (which he already has) and knowing he was doing it (we all know that won’t happen).

Dominant player? I wonder how many of the home runs would have been pop-outs without the extra help? Or late in the year when he should be run down like other players, how many of those would have left the park or if his other stats would have suffered? He was a hall a famer before he decided to get on the juice. He just wouldn’t be the home run king.

B CURTIS- Amen to that!
Funny how he got huge and started hitting dingers at a record pace right after the Sosa- McGuire season.

I also wonder how you have the 5 greatest hitting seasons between the ages of 35-39. Here is a little sample from Game of Shadows. The writers must have made up these stats.

Starting in 2000, after Bonds had recovered from a 1999 elbow injury, he put together the greatest five consecutive seasons of any hitter in baseball history. During that stretch, when he was age 35 to 39, Bonds batted .339, hit 258 homers and drove in 544 runs, with an OPS of 1.316. His performance was slightly better than what the study showed was the second-best five-year run of all time: Babe Ruth’s first five years with the Yankees. From age 25 to 29, Ruth hit .370 with 235 homeruns, 659 runs batted in, and an OPS of 1.288. No other players in baseball history came close, the study found.

The writers didn’t make that up..

Another interesting stat:

From ’86-’99, Bonds had AB/HR ratio of 1:15.7
From ’00-’07, he almost cut it in half 1:8.9

All in the twighlight of his career, when he gained 80lbs, and his head doubled in size.

The “Babe” did it on hot dogs and beer….my kind of hero….

Congrats to Barry

Integrity…..ever hear of it?
Bonds hasn’t.

“Integrity…..ever hear of it?” Ummmmmm–yup
You may have alot of stats and numbers to throw out in your wealth of knowledge, but it looks like a 14 yr old wrote it.
Name calling is cool—- from your profile–“can’t wait to teach my boys!”

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Barry Bonds, like it or not, is the most dominant player to ever play baseball. Just look at his stats, it’s a fact.

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WOW that is a statement that took me off guard!

So he is up there in the Joe D, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays,

And oh yeah if he is found to have used illegal drugs I bet he wont get the chance to be voted into the hall of fame……………

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Love him or hate him …I do neither.

He’s absolutly one of the best players to ever lace them up before during and after he and 100’s of Baseball players used performance enchancing drugs.

First ballot Hall of Fame for sure.

The guys that vote on this understand baseball even his his most vocal critic who feels the record is tainted said he will vote for Barry on the first ballot so he’s a shoe in and one of the best of all time period.

Beer was illegal, much like steroids, when Babe was doing it during prohibition. Maybe in 50 years, when steroids are legal, then Barry will get his admiration too.

big g

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What part of trying to do his job leads to him to not being a “team player”?

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Puttin an man on base and advancing runners is better than putting another out on the scoreboard….at least in everygame i’ve ever seen

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Barry Bonds is one of the greatest baseball players of all time.

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I’ve already said Way more than I have ever wanted to about this topic so, I’ll make this my last.

Bonds Great home run hitter with or with out Juice. YES! Did the Juice help? YES! ( by prolonging his career, and healing from his several injuries) Did it help his swing? NO! Is what he accomplishe impressive with or with out said substance? YOU KNOW IT! Will it last for ever? Nope! IS he one of the greatest PLAYERS of all time? The guy can’t run, he’s so so in the outfield. (I mean would you rather have Bonds in right, or Cuddy in right even in 8 years? I’ll take Cuddy.) So I gues I have a hard time saying he’s one of the greatest players. One of the Greatest Power Hitters. YES! IF you knock him down to 500 home runs Is he a Hall of famer? Or another Power hitter, who will struggle to make the HOF because if you remove the HR his numbers just don’t add up. I think that is more likely. We’ll Never know, and one day when his jail bird friend decided it’s time to collect his Silence money, and starts to talk. ONLY then will we know. Untill then just sit back and watch the record grow. And wonder at what point this country went from liking defense/ teams to be challanged in sports, (Football, Basketball, Hockey, and Baseball are all included.) To where we are today. Everysport has gone through changes to make it easier to score. Because no one likes watching teams fight for thier points they just want to know when it’s made Soooo Easy who can put up the most! If you ask me That’s what is to be blamed for this record falling in the manor it did. Bonds, isn’t the 1st to do it, and Saddly far from the last. That’s my .02 cents! ( probably closer to like .10 Cents but what ever!)

ok… maybe I see things differently…. what if he was a tourney fisherman.. and he won more tourneys than anyone.. and it was found out he “cheated”… there are lots of ways to cheat in every sport… steroids is considered cheating in baseball….. catching your fish b4 a tourney and storing them for later is considered cheating in fishing… cheating is cheating… and cheaters do better than non cheaters… or why bother? with that being said…. his homers are “not real”… because you cant know how or when the cheating helped…. just as if they were fish he caught.. some of his fish would be “real”… some would not be.. how would you ever know?.. . you would just toss them all out… so that cheaters never prosper…. just my two cents worth… a great player.. and a great cheater… all rolled into one… and sure… I know innocent until proven guilty.. just the same as if he caught all his fish and saved them up for the tourney…. so whatever… but if your asking what I think… this stinks…. even though they say steroids saved baseball….. if they need to “save” baseball.. they can handicap pitcher pretty easy…. all the umps gotta do is tighten the strike zone so they gotta serve em right down the middle… and *pow* suddenly lots of homers…. cuz they gotta throw fast balls to hit the “zone”

Ok do we throw out all the spit ball pitches how about stealing signs thats cheating, corked bats see ya thats cheating.

How about greenies “speed” which have been used by almost every single baseball player that EVER played.

All the records are gone under this scenario!

I’ve been on pins and needles waiting for Bonds to break the record. I’ve been on pins and he’s been on needles

Who is Barry Bonds and who does he play for?

Just my .02.

Stealing signs is not cheating, its strategy. Why do you think signs have become so sophisticated, any of you ever play and remember the “fake” signs?

Vaseline in the ball cap for a pitcher is cheating, nail file in the back pocket is cheating, doing steriods is cheating.

His record is BS in my opinion. In my mind he hasn’t accomplished anything except tarnish a great game that I used to love as a kid and have grown to despise as an adult due to all the crap that goes on in it. The greedy Bass turds even tubed the world series because they wanted MORE MONEY! They played the game theu world war II and these SOB’s are gonna turn the sport on its head for greed. I haven’t watched since then.